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rahametrahamet Member Posts: 23 Arc User
With all of the updates why has the captains table not received an update? Should Liberated Borg Captain get liberated Borg vessels and if so should they be max tier what ever that happens to be even in the future? Don't get me wrong, I love the chimera and that it gets the free upgrade. I would just love to see, Liberated Borg specific Borg vessels. With that Should they not also be allowed to cross faction as long as it is another Liberated Borg Captain who is teamed up with them. With recent incursions into ESD by KDF players an auto timer if you are not part or that faction or grouped with a captain of that faction should be in place.
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rahamet wrote: »
I do not believe in just complaining, about a problem without trying to fix it. So how to go about solving the problem.
1.)Is the captains table redundant?
2.)Actual worth while Ship bonus for 1000 day members.
3.)New possible bonuses.
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  • anazondaanazonda Member Posts: 8,399 Arc User
    edited December 2014
    You still need a gold subscription with 1000+ days, or a LTS sub to get the chimera...

    The Golds, and LTS'es have gotten all they are going to get... Best to get used to it.
    Don't look silly... Don't call it the "Z-Store/Zen Store"...
    Let me put the rumors to rest: it's definitely still the C-Store (Cryptic Store) It just takes ZEN.
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  • rahametrahamet Member Posts: 23 Arc User
    edited December 2014
    Ok ty for that clarification i will edit my post.
  • mustrumridcully0mustrumridcully0 Member Posts: 12,963 Arc User
    edited December 2014
    anazonda wrote: »
    You still need a gold subscription with 1000+ days, or a LTS sub to get the chimera...

    The Golds, and LTS'es have gotten all they are going to get... Best to get used to it.

    If I am not mistaken, there was also something new recently added - a ship upgrade token. (Not that you really need it, Fleet Tier 6 is the future. Or Scimitard.)
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  • anazondaanazonda Member Posts: 8,399 Arc User
    edited December 2014
    If I am not mistaken, there was also something new recently added - a ship upgrade token. (Not that you really need it, Fleet Tier 6 is the future. Or Scimitard.)

    What you call "reward", I call a marketing scam, to make us buy the da*ned things.
    Don't look silly... Don't call it the "Z-Store/Zen Store"...
    Let me put the rumors to rest: it's definitely still the C-Store (Cryptic Store) It just takes ZEN.
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  • iamynaughtiamynaught Member Posts: 1,285 Arc User
    edited December 2014
    Also, LTS got the ability to make Talaxians.

    Still wondering if that's a perk or not. :P
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  • thutmosis85thutmosis85 Member Posts: 2,358 Arc User
    edited December 2014
    Yeah you'll probably get another fancy perk, whenever they feel the need to push sales on LTS ... wouldn't expect something too fancy, like a Borg Ship, though ...
    iamynaught wrote: »
    Also, LTS got the ability to make Talaxians.

    Still wondering if that's a perk or not. :P

    Since the Talaxian 5% Skill Bonus & the 700day 5% Skill Bonus don't seem to stack, it's more of a bad joke :P ... but hey "Talaxians", probably to incompetent to use both :P
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  • rahametrahamet Member Posts: 23 Arc User
    edited December 2014
    Ah true however that is one per account. I Have several characters many of whom were maxed or nearly maxed. I don't mind doing the work, but prior to the release of tier 6 ships getting a lifetime subscription was a good deal. With the release of tier 6 ships what is the point of getting a lifetime subscription you do not get free access to one tier 6 ship like you did with tier 5 ships in the past. I'm not saying give Borg ships for nothing per say make it a special item that players can work for. Maybe give probes at 40 spheres at 50 and able to work for cubes tac cubes and diamonds at 60 or something.
  • bobbydazlersbobbydazlers Member Posts: 4,534 Arc User
    edited December 2014
    anazonda wrote: »
    You still need a gold subscription with 1000+ days, or a LTS sub to get the chimera...

    The Golds, and LTS'es have gotten all they are going to get... Best to get used to it.

    people have been saying that for ages and they have added at least 3 things in the last year or so, the ev suit, the free T5 upgrade token for your choice of ship, talaxian playable species and that's without even mentioning the free T5 upgrade for 1000 day ships.

    so you cant rule anything out, the extra items are not necessarily aimed at current 1000 day subbers and lifers but to tempt new sales, its just a nice bonus that current gold members benefit also.

    now with T6 ships taking the limelight the current 1000 day ships are looking a bit meh, I would not put it past cryptic to add some sort of T6 reward to add appeal for subbing to 1000 days or buying the lifetime package.

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  • mustrumridcully0mustrumridcully0 Member Posts: 12,963 Arc User
    edited December 2014
    anazonda wrote: »
    What you call "reward", I call a marketing scam, to make us buy the da*ned things.

    Well, a marketing scam to make us buy less things wouldn't be a very wise idea.

    It could be very noble, however.
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  • anazondaanazonda Member Posts: 8,399 Arc User
    edited December 2014
    people have been saying that for ages and they have added at least 3 things in the last year or so, the ev suit, the free T5 upgrade token for your choice of ship, talaxian playable species and that's without even mentioning the free T5 upgrade for 1000 day ships.

    so you cant rule anything out, the extra items are not necessarily aimed at current 1000 day subbers and lifers but to tempt new sales, its just a nice bonus that current gold members benefit also.

    now with T6 ships taking the limelight the current 1000 day ships are looking a bit meh, I would not put it past cryptic to add some sort of T6 reward to add appeal for subbing to 1000 days or buying the lifetime package.

    Those things weren't really added for the subsribers now, were they? I mean... The EV suits were C-Store for god knows how long... The Upgrade tolken... Also made for the C-Store...
    And well.. The talaxians... I am not sure what to think of that.

    BUT... Things are good... theres not much point in trying to get more out of them... IF they add something, they will not do it for free...
    Well, a marketing scam to make us buy less things wouldn't be a very wise idea.

    It could be very noble, however.

    One thing, I can promise you the marketing dept. hoped would bring us to buy more.

    But yes... giving things away for free has always been a good way to make people spend money.
    Don't look silly... Don't call it the "Z-Store/Zen Store"...
    Let me put the rumors to rest: it's definitely still the C-Store (Cryptic Store) It just takes ZEN.
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  • bobbydazlersbobbydazlers Member Posts: 4,534 Arc User
    edited December 2014
    anazonda wrote: »
    Those things weren't really added for the subsribers now, were they? I mean... The EV suits were C-Store for god knows how long... The Upgrade tolken... Also made for the C-Store...
    And well.. The talaxians... I am not sure what to think of that.

    BUT... Things are good... theres not much point in trying to get more out of them... IF they add something, they will not do it for free....

    if they add anything else or if they don't is no nevermind to me, I have got all I ever expected and that was enough for me, if they do add anything else whether its something I can use like the upgrade token or something I will likely never use like the playable talaxian it will be gratefully received regardless.

    as I said its not added for me or all the other current golds like me out there, its to tempt new buyers to cough up the dosh, its just nice that we get it too, no matter where it come from if its free its good.

    When I think about everything we've been through together,

    maybe it's not the destination that matters, maybe it's the journey,

     and if that journey takes a little longer,

    so we can do something we all believe in,

     I can't think of any place I'd rather be or any people I'd rather be with.

  • jornadojornado Member Posts: 918 Arc User
    edited December 2014
    There isn't much profit in adding anything more to LTS really....

    You get enough to entice people to get it if they are of a mind to, and why add more things to it when you can just add them to the C-Store and get people to either pay or use their LTS stipend on it?
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  • vetteguy904vetteguy904 Member Posts: 3,949 Arc User
    edited December 2014
    well I'm positive the captains table update is coming.. the question is will it be USEFUL. the door will be in club 47.. i suspect in the same cubby the bathroom is in. But I think there will have to be some mods to both qo'nos and New romulus (at least doorway additions)

    but without full facilities ( spacedock, exchange, tailor, Vendors, skill and boff trainers) then the CT will remain there but unused.
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  • rahametrahamet Member Posts: 23 Arc User
    edited December 2014
    I do not believe in just complaining, about a problem without trying to fix it. So how to go about solving the problem.
  • rahametrahamet Member Posts: 23 Arc User
    edited December 2014
    1.)Is the captains table redundant?
    2.)Actual worth while Ship bonus for 1000 day members.
    3.)New possible bonuses.
  • rahametrahamet Member Posts: 23 Arc User
    edited December 2014
    rahamet wrote: »
    1.)Is the captains table redundant?

    Well as it is now yes, there is nothing there for people to want to use. I have seen maby 1 other person there every time I visit like once every 3 months. So to get people to go there more often make special missions for it, a crafting bench that allows you to select exactly what bonuses you get from crafting an item, and a store that you can buy mk XV items. Once people find out they can get thoes bonuses who would not want to subscribe?
  • rahametrahamet Member Posts: 23 Arc User
    edited December 2014
    rahamet wrote: »
    2.)Actual worth while Ship bonus for 1000 day members.

    just give us a free Tier 5 ship at 50 like it is now and another free Tier 6 ship at 60 so it stays in line with lvling the characters.
  • rahametrahamet Member Posts: 23 Arc User
    edited December 2014
    rahamet wrote: »
    3.)New possible bonuses.

    Liberated Borg captains have Borg Ships, and the ability to team up with other Liberated Borg Officers for faction specific Actions like allowing a Liberated Klingon Captain to defend Starbase 24 as long as It was a Liberated Borg federation officer who invited them to the team.
  • js26568js26568 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited December 2014
    You're having a conversation with yourself aren't you.
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  • monkeybone13monkeybone13 Member Posts: 4,640 Arc User
    edited December 2014
    Yeah you'll probably get another fancy perk, whenever they feel the need to push sales on LTS ... wouldn't expect something too fancy, like a Borg Ship, though ...



    Since the Talaxian 5% Skill Bonus & the 700day 5% Skill Bonus don't seem to stack, it's more of a bad joke :P ... but hey "Talaxians", probably to incompetent to use both :P

    That makes no sense and is probably a bug. Lifetime members get the 700 day veteran skill point bonus up front and you have to have a lifetime sub to be able to make a Talaxian. So what's the point in giving Talaxians a skill point bonus that doesn't stack with the vet bonus? :confused:

    I'm not sure myself if the Talaxian skill point bonus is stacking with the vet or not. He does seem to level up fast by completing story episodes. But then again leveling up to 50 on any character is rather fast. It's when you reach level 50 leveling feels like you came to a dead stop after slamming into a brick wall at warp 9.
  • monkeybone13monkeybone13 Member Posts: 4,640 Arc User
    edited December 2014
    anazonda wrote: »
    Those things weren't really added for the subsribers now, were they? I mean... The EV suits were C-Store for god knows how long... The Upgrade tolken... Also made for the C-Store...
    And well.. The talaxians... I am not sure what to think of that.

    BUT... Things are good... theres not much point in trying to get more out of them... IF they add something, they will not do it for free...



    One thing, I can promise you the marketing dept. hoped would bring us to buy more.

    But yes... giving things away for free has always been a good way to make people spend money.

    True. But the combat EV suits are no longer available for anyone other than veterans and lifetime members.

    The upgrade token allowed me to upgrade my fleet intrepid free of charge. That saved me 700 zen.

    You contradicted yourself. You say they won't give anything away for free but then turn around and say giving away free stuff gets people to spend money? Perhaps I'm just misinterpreting that.

    I can tell you they have added new veteran rewards since I've been a lifetime subscriber and I never ever had to pay anything extra for it. In fact I have no reason to keep paying anything since I get all veteran rewards up front for no additional charge, even new rewards added later. But I do still buy zen for real money once in a while because I want to and it would take months saving up my monthly 500 free zen to get anything new from the c-store and I don't have the dilithum to trade for zen to get it quickly, especially when dil exchange prices start rising like they have since the winter event started (before winter event = about 156 dil per zen; as of yesterday = almost 180 dil per zen and going up).
  • rahametrahamet Member Posts: 23 Arc User
    edited December 2014
    thinking about the direction i want this post to go in
  • meimeitoomeimeitoo Member Posts: 12,594 Arc User
    edited December 2014
    Captain's Table really could use an overhaul. It's actually kind of obsoleted by Solanae Sphere, and similar places, that have it all.

    Give Captain's Table a shiny new coat, though (ESD-style); and make ppl actually able to sit on chairs, and it might be a viable place again.
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  • dpsloss88dpsloss88 Member Posts: 765 Arc User
    edited December 2014
    They figured out a while back that lifers were not the whales they were looking for. They want stupid kids with rich parents who can put in at least $10k a year into buying zen in order to upgrade their gear up to XIV Epics, and of course the bread and butter lock box junkies...
  • rahametrahamet Member Posts: 23 Arc User
    edited December 2014
    js26568 wrote: »
    You're having a conversation with yourself aren't you.
    dpsloss88 wrote: »
    They figured out a while back that lifers were not the whales they were looking for. They want stupid kids with rich parents who can put in at least $10k a year into buying zen in order to upgrade their gear up to XIV Epics, and of course the bread and butter lock box junkies...

    please stay on task this conversation post is for giving ideas on how to improve lifetime subscription bonuses
  • crm14916crm14916 Member Posts: 1,538 Arc User
    edited December 2014
    There was a thread started a few months ago by Taco I think where he asked what players would like to see it off a recap to the captain's table... not sure where I saw it, and it's too late for me to go looking for it...

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  • rahametrahamet Member Posts: 23 Arc User
    edited December 2014
    Ok so to continue. Updating the table with veteran specific bonuses from missions ie. Veteran points that can be spent in upgrading equipment with a specific bonus (dot, spread,arc). This mission should be given out by the host at the entrance of the captain's table.
  • rahametrahamet Member Posts: 23 Arc User
    edited December 2014
    As for liberated Borg captain's getting Borg ships treat probes like escorts, spheres like sci vessels and cubes like cruisers. They should all have a foreign arc of 360° regardless of location fore or aft, and a teleported boarding party.
  • starkaosstarkaos Member Posts: 11,556 Arc User
    edited December 2014
    rahamet wrote: »
    As for liberated Borg captain's getting Borg ships treat probes like escorts, spheres like sci vessels and cubes like cruisers. They should all have a foreign arc of 360° regardless of location fore or aft, and a teleported boarding party.

    Forget the Borg ships, Borg Cooperative ships are far more fun and reasonable for a Liberated Borg Captain to use.
  • rahametrahamet Member Posts: 23 Arc User
    edited December 2014
    starkaos wrote: »
    Forget the Borg ships, Borg Cooperative ships are far more fun and reasonable for a Liberated Borg Captain to use.
    They are Borg, reguardless of weather they are prt of the collective or the cooperative.
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