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Challenge spam on Winter wonderland

defiant8472defiant8472 Member Posts: 38 Arc User
edited December 2014 in Star Trek Online General Discussion
Hello,

Few hours in row someone launched some challenge spam bot and while i write something in zone chat in Winter Wonderland zone, almost all the time i getting invitation to challenge from same person (sometimes even few times in row), i saw other players was annoyed with it too, they writen about it on zone chat.

Interesting how to handle such challgenge spam bots? We're unable to report them, unable to block them, i don't see any information nickname@username in any of chat/log windows to be able at least to block it... Any1 can help with it ? I see here lack of functionality aginst such type of game abuse... Even unable to change that window location in "Rearrange HUD" settings, to move it somewhere away from screen center.


P.S.
As i am pure and only PvE player i up to disable challenges invitation at all, just unsure how. I not interested in it as have issues with anger management and i am unable to do PvPs as take this to serious and then can broke PC or something at home & etc :) 7 years of martial arts, so can do plenty of harm with it.



Reposting a public service address from worffan101:
worffan101 wrote: »
Now, on the OP's issue. Ignore settings should have been updated, but if not, there's a quick way to change privacy settings--hit O, go to "Team", there's a button marked "privacy" on the right. Click it, change your settings to what you like (for example, to autodecline fleet map invites from non-friend non-fleet people), and hit OK.

Note that this may block fleet map invites, so be sure to turn it off it you're using a public service channel to get to a top-tier fleet map.

Also, when you're ignoring the spammer, REPORT him, too. Write up a short description and if possible go to arcgames.com, find the TOS, and show how the troll is violating TOS.

If this does not help, feel free to post a reply. ~ Bluegeek
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  • gulberatgulberat Member Posts: 5,505 Arc User
    edited December 2014
    See the Fleet Map invite thread for more...as I understand it the devs are working on a fix for that issue and this one will be covered in the fix as well.

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  • defiant8472defiant8472 Member Posts: 38 Arc User
    edited December 2014
    Good to know, will try to not talk in zone chat until that time. Thanks for information! :)
  • jaguarskxjaguarskx Member Posts: 5,945 Arc User
    edited December 2014
    It is related to a thread I started back on Nov 20th, 2014.

    I am guessing you are receiving challenges from a fleet called "Saint Olivia Donation Center". Someone is basically spoofing the "Saint Olivia Fleet" and is more or less stealing a person's identity. If it is a different fleet then it is likely the person has changed the fleet name.... yet again.

    http://sto-forum.perfectworld.com/showthread.php?t=1304241

    If you start receiving these challenges, then press the "O" key, and then click on the "Find Fleet" tab. If you can find the fleet click the "Details" button which will provide you with a name. You can then right click to "Ignore Player" and "Report To GM". This is likely an alternate / throw away account that the person is using to troll people. Adding the person's name to your ignore list should prevent and further challenges, however, you can still get trolled with Fleet Map Invites.


    Post #443 on page 45:
    Thank you for keeping the peace BlueGeek.

    I can confirm that an elite strike force of Devs, led by CaptainGeko, is working on a solution to this issue, and I trust that they will find a solution as soon as they can. They are already looking into the problem, and hope to have and update for you soon on the solution.

    I'd like to send that team a thank you on behalf of the CM team, as well as on the players who have been hoping for a solution to this issue.

    We hope to bring you more updates to address in-game settings soon, but in the meantime, please help us out with patience as the team looks into how to address this best. You have already waited for a long while, and for that we thank you.

    Keep your eye on the upcoming patch notes for additional updates on this.

    Thanks again for the reports everyone!

    ~CaptainSmirk
  • razar2380razar2380 Member Posts: 1,187 Arc User
    edited December 2014
    If they spam me like that, I usually will just agree to the match, then after it starts, I leave as soon as I can. They spend time in there looking for me, while I am already back doing what I was.

    To me, it is not so much a bother. No more than the mindless fleet invites from fleets that don't care who is in their fleet, just care about the numbers.
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  • penclrtistpenclrtist Member Posts: 127 Arc User
    edited December 2014
    The player in question is still causing trouble. Its nice that are are addressing this long term but seriously... where is the ban hammer?
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  • eltatuseltatus Member Posts: 291 Arc User
    edited December 2014
    penclrtist wrote: »
    where is the ban hammer?

    No where... only way they ban some one in this game is if you scam their dilithium or zens.

    STO is a "Free Troll land".. trolls know that and they just have partys here.
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  • olivia211olivia211 Member Posts: 675 Arc User
    edited December 2014
    The person doing this was live streaming it.

    I'm not kidding.
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  • ashlotteashlotte Member Posts: 316 Arc User
    edited December 2014
    olivia211 wrote: »
    The person doing this was live streaming it.

    I'm not kidding.

    Holy TRIBBLE. Could you find a link or the name of the individual responsible?
  • robert359robert359 Member Posts: 355 Arc User
    edited December 2014
    I thought the Dev said once you put a person on Ignore you have to log off then back in for it to block invites?

    or is that what they said they are working on?
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  • olivia211olivia211 Member Posts: 675 Arc User
    edited December 2014
    robert359 wrote: »
    I thought the Dev said once you put a person on Ignore you have to log off then back in for it to block invites?

    or is that what they said they are working on?

    That was supposed to be the fix, but it didn't work. People are still getting the spam at times.
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  • prediwave1prediwave1 Member Posts: 76 Arc User
    edited December 2014
    Those spammers are stupid. This game is dead and there is nothing to gain here.
  • prierinprierin Member Posts: 7 Arc User
    edited December 2014
    ashlotte wrote: »
    Holy TRIBBLE. Could you find a link or the name of the individual responsible?

    I would not recommend it unless it is via private message. Posting it on the forums is a no-go.

    Now, as far as the offending party and the ban-hammer, it is possible. I refer to the Terms and Conditions of Perfect World Entertianment:
    “T&C” wrote:

    15. User Conduct

    15.1 You must observe these Terms, all Rules of Conduct, all applicable laws and all basic rules of etiquette and common courtesy when using the Service. Any conduct that violates the law in an offline, real world community is also a violation of these terms. We will not tolerate any illegal or offensive conduct.[/i]

    15.2 Without limiting the foregoing, in addition to the User Content rules set forth in Section 16, you agree not to take any of the following actions:

    f. “stalk,” threaten or otherwise harass or cause discomfort to another;

    h. impede or disrupt the Service or the normal flow of game play or dialogue in the Game or in Interactive Areas (defined below) in the Service or use vulgar language, abusiveness, use of excessive shouting (ALL CAPS), “spamming” or any other disruptive or detrimental methods in an attempt to disturb other users or our employees;

    n. take any action that disrupts the Service or that negatively affects or may prohibit other users from enjoying the Website, the Games or any other aspect of the Service.

    15.3 We may take any actions and impose any penalties we deem necessary to discourage and punish any violation of these terms or any other illegal or inappropriate conduct, all without prior notice or warning. The determination as to whether a violation has occurred and who is responsible for such act is solely within our discretion, and is based on what we deem best for the community and the Service. By using the Service, you agree you will be bound by our determination as to whether a violation has occurred and any penalty we choose to implement.

    http://www.arcgames.com/en/about/terms


    The issue as noted by the OP falls into the category of disrupting the gameplay as detailed above and, therefore, Cryptic can not merely ignore it. In fact, they are obligated to do the following upon receiving valid reports/complaints:

    1: investigate.
    2: warn the offending party
    3: if said offence continues, take further action (i.e. nil their ability to chat, temporarily suspend account, etc.)
    4: if said offence persists after step 3, Cryptic has the right to ban the account fully (although I do not think this would actually happen)


    So continue to collect the data, make your reports and file complaints. If Cryptic does nothing, gently remind them of the TOS we are all obligated to adhere to.
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  • olivia211olivia211 Member Posts: 675 Arc User
    edited December 2014
    prierin wrote: »
    I would not recommend it unless it is via private message. Posting it on the forums is a no-go.

    Now, as far as the offending party and the ban-hammer, it is possible. I refer to the Terms and Conditions of Perfect World Entertianment:



    http://www.arcgames.com/en/about/terms


    The issue as noted by the OP falls into the category of disrupting the gameplay as detailed above and, therefore, Cryptic can not merely ignore it. In fact, they are obligated to do the following upon receiving valid reports/complaints:

    1: investigate.
    2: warn the offending party
    3: if said offence continues, take further action (i.e. nil their ability to chat, temporarily suspend account, etc.)
    4: if said offence persists after step 3, Cryptic has the right to ban the account fully (although I do not think this would actually happen)


    So continue to collect the data, make your reports and file complaints. If Cryptic does nothing, gently remind them of the TOS we are all obligated to adhere to.

    thing is this has been going on for about 2 months now. For me, right on the cusp of one month and for others around two months. Now I am getting intel that yet another well known fleet is getting hit - all their members are getting spammed and their channel flooded.

    I used to think if you acted up in game that you would actually catch a ban, but apparently not. I know people will say that it can be hard to nail down an IP to someone since you can just change it. Still, why have the fake accounts doing the spamming not be deactivated?

    Seriously. Why not?

    At this point, the GMs have probably over a thousand tickets (I am not kidding) about this one issue. Why not just go in and turn the account off?

    This makes no sense to me that the people running the game apparently have no power to even turn off an account that is clearly violating the Terms of Service.
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  • prierinprierin Member Posts: 7 Arc User
    edited December 2014
    olivia211 wrote: »
    thing is this has been going on for about 2 months now. For me, right on the cusp of one month and for others around two months. Now I am getting intel that yet another well known fleet is getting hit - all their members are getting spammed and their channel flooded.

    I used to think if you acted up in game that you would actually catch a ban, but apparently not. I know people will say that it can be hard to nail down an IP to someone since you can just change it. Still, why have the fake accounts doing the spamming not be deactivated?

    Seriously. Why not?

    At this point, the GMs have probably over a thousand tickets (I am not kidding) about this one issue. Why not just go in and turn the account off?

    This makes no sense to me that the people running the game apparently have no power to even turn off an account that is clearly violating the Terms of Service.


    Without getting too "venomous" at the GMs I'd have to say at this point it is becayse they lack the desire or the will to be proactive in this matter. Nothing frustrates me more than a distributor that fails to abide by its own terms and conditions.

    You can get insta-banned for saying the wrong thing in general chat apaprently... the system looks for certain words or phrases and pops you on the spot. Why something can't be done for spammers is beyond me but it IS a plague of F2P games, both players and bots alike.
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  • maxvitormaxvitor Member Posts: 2,213 Arc User
    edited December 2014
    Being at the bottom of 3 tiers of gaming companies they probably have a ridiculous bureaucratic structure with the all of the associated human generated bottlenecks that go with it.
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  • prierinprierin Member Posts: 7 Arc User
    edited December 2014
    nabreeki wrote: »
    Just so you know: the spammer is well aware of these threads and reads them frequently. He told me himself. Until cryptic does something to stop it, you are only making yourselves targets by posting. He's hit dental a few times, but what we do is this: nothing at all. It passes, and we go on with our lives


    It's you, isn't it? :eek: :P

    In all seriousness, the more ppl he targets the more reports with his name attached and HOPEFULLY the sooner Cryptic will actually do something... preferably greater than a warning.
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  • markhawkmanmarkhawkman Member Posts: 35,236 Arc User
    edited December 2014
    robert359 wrote: »
    I thought the Dev said once you put a person on Ignore you have to log off then back in for it to block invites?

    or is that what they said they are working on?
    That's for fleet map invites. The current version is for private PvP challenges which can be blocked. Open team settings and then click the privacy button, there's an option to only let friends send you challenge invites. But once you do that the troll will send you a friend request unless you have them on ignore. This troll has been using at least 2 accounts for his spamming, so you'll probably get more than one bogus friend request.
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  • kavasekavase Member Posts: 771 Arc User
    edited December 2014
    People sure are bored in this game...
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  • kayajaykayajay Member Posts: 1,990 Arc User
    edited December 2014
    It might just be an urban legend, but I heard that accepting the challenge request somehow gives them access to your account and or login information.

    They're using about four different accounts, but has anyone got a look at the toon's they're using?
  • js26568js26568 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited December 2014
    kayajay wrote: »
    It might just be an urban legend, but I heard that accepting the challenge request somehow gives them access to your account and or login information.

    And where did you hear this? In a dream?
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  • eltatuseltatus Member Posts: 291 Arc User
    edited December 2014
    nabreeki wrote: »
    Just so you know: the spammer is well aware of these threads and reads them frequently. He told me himself. Until cryptic does something to stop it, you are only making yourselves targets by posting. He's hit dental a few times, but what we do is this: nothing at all. It passes, and we go on with our lives

    lol yes.. keep spreading fear in the name of trolling.
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  • xtern1tyxtern1ty Member Posts: 796 Arc User
    edited December 2014
    The issue is far reaching and there are multiple investigations ongoing, covered in my current comprehensive report 141211-000207 which is over a dozen pages long and documents the origin when this behavior began to occur. There is much people do not know and I will not discuss for now, but be patient. Better a conclusive resolution than a hasty temporary one. I support devs taking their time to get to the sources of troublemaking which are persistent and numerous. I and other players are tracking culprits and devs are taking the issues seriously, it will take a while but they know what they are doing.
  • eltatuseltatus Member Posts: 291 Arc User
    edited December 2014
    xtern1ty wrote: »
    The issue is far reaching and there are multiple investigations ongoing, covered in my current ongoing report 141211-000207 which is over a dozen pages long and documents the origin when this behavior began to occur. There is much people do not know and I will not discuss for now, but be patient. Better a conclusive resolution than a hasty temporary one. I support devs taking their time to get to the sources of troublemaking which are several. I and other players are tracking culprits along with devs, it will take a while but they know what they are doing.



    LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL

    And you believe that? I mean.. with all the respect.. but this issue has month now and they even moved a finger to stop it.

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  • gulberatgulberat Member Posts: 5,505 Arc User
    edited December 2014
    Eltatus, who is the actor in your signature? I have been trying to figure out what I've seen him in...

    (Yes, it may be obvious to most, and no, I do not watch a lot of movies or TV.)

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  • eltatuseltatus Member Posts: 291 Arc User
    edited December 2014
    gulberat wrote: »
    Eltatus, who is the actor in your signature? I have been trying to figure out what I've seen him in...

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  • lucho80lucho80 Member Posts: 6,600 Bug Hunter
    edited December 2014
    If a dev wants to see this firsthand, just go incognito into the Winter Wonderland and complain and talk smack about Saint Olivia. Sure enough, the spam will come after a couple of minutes. Hope whomever is causing the spam gets banned.
  • eltatuseltatus Member Posts: 291 Arc User
    edited December 2014
    lucho80 wrote: »
    If a dev wants to see this firsthand

    A cryptic dev playing STO? LOOOOL no.. that wont happend.. lol
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  • cidjackcidjack Member Posts: 2,017 Arc User
    edited December 2014
    I have had the pleasure of "Challenge spam" after I ignored the person in question and made it known in Zone chat he was being disrespectful towards a certain gender.

    (I like boob jokes as the next man, but there are certain things that should never be said)

    I have now updated my settings on my toons to prevent further challenges.
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