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KDF Fleet found a way to access ESD.

wolfieebryanwolfieebryan Member Posts: 42 Arc User
edited December 2014 in PC Gameplay Bug Reports
Title says it all. They are getting on ESD and killing NCPs
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  • ddesjardinsddesjardins Member Posts: 3,056 Media Corps
    edited December 2014
    It's happened before.

    What instance?
  • wolfieebryanwolfieebryan Member Posts: 42 Arc User
    edited December 2014
    ddesjardins wrote: »
    It's happened before.

    What instance?

    When I was there the first one was changing instance, then 2 more showed up.

    If someone from Cryptic wants me to show which fleet I will do. I do have a screenshot of one of them that killed the bartender in Club 47 showing the fleet name and the faction as I was locked onto them.
  • arrmateysarrmateys Member Posts: 466 Arc User
    edited December 2014
    i think it was simply people who were at one point teleported there by mistake, maybe by a gm. they probably never left.

    all the npcs should probably be switched into faction-less contact state or something, that way even if they appear there again, they can at most go dance or run around.
    Now clowns, that's another story. They scare the cr​ap out of me.
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  • seriousdaveseriousdave Member Posts: 2,777 Arc User
    edited December 2014
    arrmateys wrote: »
    all the npcs should probably be switched into faction-less contact state or something, that way even if they appear there again, they can at most go dance or run around.

    This would also really help during the other events. The last time during some event (was it the doff weekend or anniversary?) some of the klingon NPCs you could encounter in the academy were able to kill the vendors, tailors, etc. That was also quite annoying. :mad:
  • lindalefflindaleff Member Posts: 3,734 Arc User
    edited December 2014
    1: ESD is not the only location affected. Starfleet characters can get to First City just as easily as KDF characters can get to ESD. The glitch works both ways, depending on which person clicks the button.

    2: This is an old exploit. And the very same method from the first year still works today. (For the record, yes, I do know exactly how to do it.)

    3: I have PERSONALLY contacted the Devs every year since the start, and even instructed them step by step on how to perform this glitch. But to date, not even one has given me any response, at all.

    4: The best we can hope for is when the Devs login, and actively patrol ESD, and trigger ban any KDF they see walking around. I have seen this happen twice this week alone, so I know for a fact that they are taking a part in controlling the situation.

    5: So are they going to fix it? Never. Patrolling and trigger banning is much easier, and much more cost-effective.

    6: At this point, we would have better luck trying to convince them to fix the City area of Defera Invasion hard missions.
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  • giotarizgiotariz Member Posts: 652 Arc User
    edited December 2014
    So many bad bugs, and you ask to fix one of the fun ones?

    wow sto playerbase always amazes me. :rolleyes:
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  • lindalefflindaleff Member Posts: 3,734 Arc User
    edited December 2014
    There is a big difference between fun, and not acceptable. Now the simple fact of KDF being able to come to ESD, or Starfleet being able to come to First City, those are fun. But the very fact that the NPCs are labelled as enemies, which then gives the players the ability to kill those NPCs, including the vendor trash merchants, and mission-givers, and even Q himself, now that is just plain rude. And if players can find a way to kill something, they will. The players having the ability to kill key NPCs, and thereby breaking the game, that is the problem.
    crashdragon wrote: »
    Makes me wonder if the Trolls are running the game the way Cryptic muck around with things like this.
    You know, there have been several interesting (See: Ridiculous) conspiracy theories about exactly that. My particular favourite was how Cryptic is actually a member of Starfleet Dental. But again, conspiracy theory. :rolleyes:
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  • lordsteve1lordsteve1 Member Posts: 3,492 Arc User
    edited December 2014
    Seen the same thing today, not 5 mins ago. Not really an issue as we are meant to be a peace with the KDF are we not!

    However when it devolves into killing off all the NPCs that people need for vendors, missions etc...then it gets a bit annoying.
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  • olliereportolliereport Member Posts: 721
    edited December 2014
    lindaleff wrote: »
    1: ESD is not the only location affected. Starfleet characters can get to First City just as easily as KDF characters can get to ESD. The glitch works both ways, depending on which person clicks the button.

    2: This is an old exploit. And the very same method from the first year still works today. (For the record, yes, I do know exactly how to do it.)

    3: I have PERSONALLY contacted the Devs every year since the start, and even instructed them step by step on how to perform this glitch. But to date, not even one has given me any response, at all.

    4: The best we can hope for is when the Devs login, and actively patrol ESD, and trigger ban any KDF they see walking around. I have seen this happen twice this week alone, so I know for a fact that they are taking a part in controlling the situation.

    5: So are they going to fix it? Never. Patrolling and trigger banning is much easier, and much more cost-effective.

    6: At this point, we would have better luck trying to convince them to fix the City area of Defera Invasion hard missions.




    As with any glitch, if it's deliberately left in a perpetually un-fixed state.

    Then, bans are not a good idea and are very very bad for the game population. People who have nothing to do with this but just hear that something like that is going on lose (more) confidence in the game and it generates bad will.

    (EDIT: people are disgruntled enough already)

    The best solution I've seen to something like this (and I've seen it before in games) is that they make npc un-attackable and add guards that can teleport-vaporize opposite faction. It stops it, and it also adds some good humor to the game.
  • wolfieebryanwolfieebryan Member Posts: 42 Arc User
    edited December 2014
    arrmateys wrote: »
    i think it was simply people who were at one point teleported there by mistake, maybe by a gm. they probably never left.

    I don't think that's the case. I seen two KDF faction players on ESD from the same fleet at the same time and hearing reports from fleet members of others in other instances so it's not something random. This is something that needs fixing as they are not ment to be there.
  • notrealednanotrealedna Member Posts: 1,028
    edited December 2014
    I was there.Any problems with that?
    giotariz wrote: »
    So many bad bugs, and you ask to fix one of the fun ones?

    wow sto playerbase always amazes me. :rolleyes:

    It breaks their roleplaying BS.


    oh check this out http://cloud-4.steampowered.com/ugc/45364398953691054/A4E92123E9C6423CC76B9C9F7CC8267D0B2D4EBD/
  • giveroffacialsgiveroffacials Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited December 2014
    there were some KDF yesterday asking for someone to grant diplomatic immunity so they could visit ESD. I wonder if it's related.
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  • notrealednanotrealedna Member Posts: 1,028
    edited December 2014
    giveroffacials wrote: »
    there were some KDF yesterday asking for someone to grant diplomatic immunity so they could visit ESD. I wonder if it's related.


    nope ,not even close.

    you can't kill npcs except the bartender and even if he dies the button for his menu is still there so you can stop the QQ and say thanks a klink thought to visit your supermarket like station
  • notrealednanotrealedna Member Posts: 1,028
    edited December 2014
    lindaleff wrote: »
    1: ESD is not the only location affected. Starfleet characters can get to First City just as easily as KDF characters can get to ESD. The glitch works both ways, depending on which person clicks the button.

    2: This is an old exploit. And the very same method from the first year still works today. (For the record, yes, I do know exactly how to do it.)

    3: I have PERSONALLY contacted the Devs every year since the start, and even instructed them step by step on how to perform this glitch. But to date, not even one has given me any response, at all.

    4: The best we can hope for is when the Devs login, and actively patrol ESD, and trigger ban any KDF they see walking around. I have seen this happen twice this week alone, so I know for a fact that they are taking a part in controlling the situation.

    5: So are they going to fix it? Never. Patrolling and trigger banning is much easier, and much more cost-effective.

    6: At this point, we would have better luck trying to convince them to fix the City area of Defera Invasion hard missions.

    This shows you dont know how to replicate it.You can get any kdf on esd without him knowing....but yea i hope ill get you on esd and they ban you so you learn your lesson and stop asking for bans in broken games lol
  • fmgtorres1979fmgtorres1979 Member Posts: 1,327 Arc User
    edited December 2014
    The war is over...
  • notrealednanotrealedna Member Posts: 1,028
    edited December 2014
    fmgtorres1979 wrote: »
    The war is over...

    sadly yes...last year we could kill him and he even fight back ,now he sits down and watches the show :(

    At least we can dance for Quinn :D
  • giveroffacialsgiveroffacials Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited December 2014
    notrealedna wrote: »
    nope ,not even close.

    you can't kill npcs except the bartender and even if he dies the button for his menu is still there so you can stop the QQ and say thanks a klink thought to visit your supermarket like station

    No kidding, right? ESD is so much more efficient than the Klingon home world first city and space dock. I want to pull my hair out sometimes when I play my Klingon character, especially when I'm upgrading a ship.
    Space the final frontier. These are the voyages of [your name here] on a five year mission to gain one level after the delta rising xp nerf.
    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
  • notrealednanotrealedna Member Posts: 1,028
    edited December 2014
    giveroffacials wrote: »
    No kidding, right? ESD is so much more efficient than the Klingon home world first city and space dock. I want to pull my hair out sometimes when I play my Klingon character, especially when I'm upgrading a ship.


    and you wonder why klinks go to esd lol :D
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