Both fed and kdf have at least 1 t5 carrier with 2 hanger bays, while romulans do not. Yes the Scimitar ships have a hanger bay, but that's just a single bay not 2 bays.
Kdf has Vo'Quv Carrier and Kar'Fi Battle Carrier
Fed has Caitian Atrox Carrier
Yes there is Universal carriers such as:
Advanced Obelisk Carrier
Jem'Hadar Dreadnought Carrier
Tholian Recluse Carrier
Xindi-Aquatic Narcine Dreadnought Carrier
But these are not a dedicated romulan carrier. Now I don't know with DR out with t6 ships, if there will be any more t5 ships made or not. It'll just be nice to get a carrier just for romulans.
How does the Atrox not count as a dedicated Fed carrier?
cuz itsno t cannon and notr eally a fedeeration shpe.It doestn count an dIm an admin.
Does that answer your question?
On topic, yes, there really isn't a reason the Rommies shouldn't get a full carrier option (that is not a Lockbox or Breen vessel). Canon doesn't apply since this is set in beyond the "real" Trek timeframe anyway, and really, for some reason carriers crewed with Reman cannon fodder pilots seems very, very Romulan to me.
My guess is "hope" keeps people not playing but posting on the forums. For others, its a path of sad realization and closure. Grieving takes time. The worst "haters" here love the game, or did at some point.
How does the Atrox not count as a dedicated Fed carrier?
It's not really a "Starfleet" Carrier. It was built by Caitians and looks like a Caitian ship. People want a bonafide Saucer-and-nacelles Starfleet Carrier.
Honestly, If I was to vote for anything to be elevated to full Carrier status, it would be the oft forgotten Jupiter-class Starship. It's got the size and looks of a Carrier, granted it could use a major touching up, seeing as its model hasn't been touched since launch.
As for a Romulan Carrier, I agree they need one as well.
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Both fed and kdf have at least 1 t5 carrier with 2 hanger bays, while romulans do not. Yes the Scimitar ships have a hanger bay, but that's just a single bay not 2 bays.
Kdf has Vo'Quv Carrier and Kar'Fi Battle Carrier
Fed has Caitian Atrox Carrier
Yes there is Universal carriers such as:
Advanced Obelisk Carrier
Jem'Hadar Dreadnought Carrier
Tholian Recluse Carrier
Xindi-Aquatic Narcine Dreadnought Carrier
But these are not a dedicated romulan carrier. Now I don't know with DR out with t6 ships, if there will be any more t5 ships made or not. It'll just be nice to get a carrier just for romulans.
Yes the Romulans should have at least one full 2 Hangar Romulan inspired Carrier in their available ship line up.
I like the fighter, but that particular carrier is too BSG for my Trek aesthetics.
(the fighter kinda borders on BSG also, but since it doesn't have a tail-fin I give it a pass)
Oh and I agree, give the Roms a decent Carrier.
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I agree that the Roms should have a dedicated Heavy Carrier (one based off the D'Deridex is a good idea as I always felt that design was more of a 'carrier-type' with all the open space it has than a battleship)
In the same light, I also think the Feds should have an honest to goodness 'Starfleet' carrier as opposed to a 'fill-in' with the Caitian ship. Someone mentioned using the Jupiter-class for it...there's a reason the Jupiter is 'often forgotten" - the thing is ugly as sin and lends itself more toward a colony ship than a ship of the line for Starfleet. My idea of a dedicated Starfleet carrier would be something like this:
I agree that the Roms should have a dedicated Heavy Carrier (one based off the D'Deridex is a good idea as I always felt that design was more of a 'carrier-type' with all the open space it has than a battleship)
In the same light, I also think the Feds should have an honest to goodness 'Starfleet' carrier as opposed to a 'fill-in' with the Caitian ship. Someone mentioned using the Jupiter-class for it...there's a reason the Jupiter is 'often forgotten" - the thing is ugly as sin and lends itself more toward a colony ship than a ship of the line for Starfleet. My idea of a dedicated Starfleet carrier would be something like this:
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I can see it now, Roms get a 2 hanger carrier, that can use the Scimitar's pets. Oh the rage that will ensue.
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I can see it now, Roms get a 2 hanger carrier, that can use the Scimitar's pets. Oh the rage that will ensue.
They are Rom Probe TRIBBLE's, good at tanking and looking like sh**
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"You don't have to do something again and again and again repetitive that doesn't have much challange, that's just a general good gameplay thing."
I mean Roms already got the most OP ship and the most OP Bridge Officers.
I am starting to REALLY laugh at the comments from the Fed side. These are the ONLY two advantages a Rom character has:
(1) Operative Trait - Tac given to everyone in a fleet
(2) ONE (1) Ship, Zen purchase.
Lets see. How many ships do the Feds have? How many new T6 Traits?
If the Fed toon can't trounce every KDF and Rom in the game, then it isn't fair. I've heard this from the beginning days of this game. Every side has some advantage.
Klingons had the only full carrier... then the Feds complained and they got one. Sorry, the Fed side DOES have a Dedicated full carrier. It doesn't matter if it's Catian or not, since only a Full Fed player can have one. Not a Fed-Aligned Rom, and defiantly not KDF.
Feds have a virtual monopoly on Science vessels. Dyson was given to everyone, but without this unique option there are no choices for either Rom or KDF, and defiantly not at T6.
The "Differences" are why one chooses Fed or KDF, or Rom. That choice determines what you get later. It is almost always the FED player who complains the loudest saying "I don't have one of those, give it to me." Been that way since KDF become a playable faction.
I am starting to REALLY laugh at the comments from the Fed side. These are the ONLY two advantages a Rom character has:
(1) Operative Trait - Tac given to everyone in a fleet
(2) ONE (1) Ship, Zen purchase.
Lets see. How many ships do the Feds have? How many new T6 Traits?
If the Fed toon can't trounce every KDF and Rom in the game, then it isn't fair. I've heard this from the beginning days of this game. Every side has some advantage.
Klingons had the only full carrier... then the Feds complained and they got one. Sorry, the Fed side DOES have a Dedicated full carrier. It doesn't matter if it's Catian or not, since only a Full Fed player can have one. Not a Fed-Aligned Rom, and defiantly not KDF.
Feds have a virtual monopoly on Science vessels. Dyson was given to everyone, but without this unique option there are no choices for either Rom or KDF, and defiantly not at T6.
The "Differences" are why one chooses Fed or KDF, or Rom. That choice determines what you get later. It is almost always the FED player who complains the loudest saying "I don't have one of those, give it to me." Been that way since KDF become a playable faction.
*applauds* The feds have had more than their share of love, I'd like to see them go about 10 months with no new things except cross faction lockbox ships while the KDF and Romulans have the love poured on them.
*applauds* The feds have had more than their share of love, I'd like to see them go about 10 months with no new things except cross faction lockbox ships while the KDF and Romulans have the love poured on them.
Well that isn't going to happen because their wallet is more important than any faction balance...
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I am starting to REALLY laugh at the comments from the Fed side. These are the ONLY two advantages a Rom character has:
(1) Operative Trait - Tac given to everyone in a fleet
(2) ONE (1) Ship, Zen purchase.
Lets see. How many ships do the Feds have? How many new T6 Traits?
Don't worry, before the Rom, Feds where whining the KDF where OP because they had a cloak and the Vo'quv.
They have to whine for everything they doesn't have, no matter chat they have the others doesn't.
I even read complain because the Rom had singularity core, while I trade this pile of s*** for an AM core anytime.
It doesn't matter if the faction is half finished, lack the basics infrastructure the other have, or is neglected by the devs and riddled with bugs. They have something the feds doesn't have.
When they'll add the Cardies, they'll complain about what they have. Like superior efficient or whatever.
In the end, the whiners win, because they added carriers on the lobi store/box that are much better than the KDF's, including the free breen one, and the intel ship feature a cloak, even for feds. It's only a matter of time before the fed have their own scimitard, SRO, and battlecloak, and a singularity core (probably a cross faction ship or something). Technically, they already have SRO with the embassy BOFF, but it's limited.
As for the Valdore console, coming to a lockbox near you soon (tm).
The breen carrier is the best carrier ever and romulans everywhere love to fly it.
I wouldn't be caught dead in that ugly PoS if it was the last starship in the galaxy. Well I mean you got to admit it looks like a BAMF BUT!!! I haz a Faeht as a reman, so no thanks. My fed tac on the other hand, might see some very interesting build ideas on that carrier :eek:
one hangar bay. we are talking about a 2 hangar bay "true" carrier. id like to see one that looks like a giant faeht. the design scaled up works.
That thing has Romulan battle cloak. From where i am standing the Romulans are far ahead on the curve with carriers.
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Both fed and kdf have at least 1 t5 carrier with 2 hanger bays, while romulans do not. Yes the Scimitar ships have a hanger bay, but that's just a single bay not 2 bays.
Kdf has Vo'Quv Carrier and Kar'Fi Battle Carrier
Fed has Caitian Atrox Carrier
Yes there is Universal carriers such as:
Advanced Obelisk Carrier
Jem'Hadar Dreadnought Carrier
Tholian Recluse Carrier
Xindi-Aquatic Narcine Dreadnought Carrier
But these are not a dedicated romulan carrier. Now I don't know with DR out with t6 ships, if there will be any more t5 ships made or not. It'll just be nice to get a carrier just for romulans.
Agreed. I am using the Xindi because tehere was no Kar'Fi equivalent for RSE.
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Good luck on getting a Rom carrier. lol
But kdf has 2 carriers already, rom's do not.
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How does the Atrox not count as a dedicated Fed carrier?
cuz itsno t cannon and notr eally a fedeeration shpe.It doestn count an dIm an admin.
Does that answer your question?
On topic, yes, there really isn't a reason the Rommies shouldn't get a full carrier option (that is not a Lockbox or Breen vessel). Canon doesn't apply since this is set in beyond the "real" Trek timeframe anyway, and really, for some reason carriers crewed with Reman cannon fodder pilots seems very, very Romulan to me.
It's not really a "Starfleet" Carrier. It was built by Caitians and looks like a Caitian ship. People want a bonafide Saucer-and-nacelles Starfleet Carrier.
Honestly, If I was to vote for anything to be elevated to full Carrier status, it would be the oft forgotten Jupiter-class Starship. It's got the size and looks of a Carrier, granted it could use a major touching up, seeing as its model hasn't been touched since launch.
As for a Romulan Carrier, I agree they need one as well.
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Typhon Class Carrier.
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Valkyrie Class Fighter
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Yes the Romulans should have at least one full 2 Hangar Romulan inspired Carrier in their available ship line up.
I mean Roms already got the most OP ship and the most OP Bridge Officers.
The Ar'kif Tactical Carrier Warbird Retrofit.
one hangar bay. we are talking about a 2 hangar bay "true" carrier. id like to see one that looks like a giant faeht. the design scaled up works.
Step 2: Swap around LTC Tac with Cmd Eng.
Step 3: Upgrade the Ens Universal to Lt Universal.
BAM, T6 Romulan Carrier.
Keep it in the D'deridex family for the consoles.
I like the fighter, but that particular carrier is too BSG for my Trek aesthetics.
(the fighter kinda borders on BSG also, but since it doesn't have a tail-fin I give it a pass)
Oh and I agree, give the Roms a decent Carrier.
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In the same light, I also think the Feds should have an honest to goodness 'Starfleet' carrier as opposed to a 'fill-in' with the Caitian ship. Someone mentioned using the Jupiter-class for it...there's a reason the Jupiter is 'often forgotten" - the thing is ugly as sin and lends itself more toward a colony ship than a ship of the line for Starfleet. My idea of a dedicated Starfleet carrier would be something like this:
http://i965.photobucket.com/albums/ae135/brads_picts/heavycarrier_napoleon_ref2_zps791a6ea0.jpg
Of course Cryptic would have to tweek it a little to avoid copyright issues...but man does it ever scream "Starfleet Carrier".
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I have to admit, I would seriously consider buying that if they did it.
At least that looks like a Starfleet ship.
It's a shame that Cryptic has such a hard time getting ideas to use from other places...
IMO, THIS would be an excellent ship to be a Romulan Carrier.
But alas it's probably not to be.
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The last thing Roms need is another bloody Tactical ship...
They are Rom Probe TRIBBLE's, good at tanking and looking like sh**
"You don't have to do something again and again and again repetitive that doesn't have much challange, that's just a general good gameplay thing."
I am starting to REALLY laugh at the comments from the Fed side. These are the ONLY two advantages a Rom character has:
(1) Operative Trait - Tac given to everyone in a fleet
(2) ONE (1) Ship, Zen purchase.
Lets see. How many ships do the Feds have? How many new T6 Traits?
If the Fed toon can't trounce every KDF and Rom in the game, then it isn't fair. I've heard this from the beginning days of this game. Every side has some advantage.
Klingons had the only full carrier... then the Feds complained and they got one. Sorry, the Fed side DOES have a Dedicated full carrier. It doesn't matter if it's Catian or not, since only a Full Fed player can have one. Not a Fed-Aligned Rom, and defiantly not KDF.
Feds have a virtual monopoly on Science vessels. Dyson was given to everyone, but without this unique option there are no choices for either Rom or KDF, and defiantly not at T6.
The "Differences" are why one chooses Fed or KDF, or Rom. That choice determines what you get later. It is almost always the FED player who complains the loudest saying "I don't have one of those, give it to me." Been that way since KDF become a playable faction.
*applauds* The feds have had more than their share of love, I'd like to see them go about 10 months with no new things except cross faction lockbox ships while the KDF and Romulans have the love poured on them.
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Well that isn't going to happen because their wallet is more important than any faction balance...
They have to whine for everything they doesn't have, no matter chat they have the others doesn't.
I even read complain because the Rom had singularity core, while I trade this pile of s*** for an AM core anytime.
It doesn't matter if the faction is half finished, lack the basics infrastructure the other have, or is neglected by the devs and riddled with bugs. They have something the feds doesn't have.
When they'll add the Cardies, they'll complain about what they have. Like superior efficient or whatever.
In the end, the whiners win, because they added carriers on the lobi store/box that are much better than the KDF's, including the free breen one, and the intel ship feature a cloak, even for feds. It's only a matter of time before the fed have their own scimitard, SRO, and battlecloak, and a singularity core (probably a cross faction ship or something). Technically, they already have SRO with the embassy BOFF, but it's limited.
As for the Valdore console, coming to a lockbox near you soon (tm).
I wouldn't be caught dead in that ugly PoS if it was the last starship in the galaxy. Well I mean you got to admit it looks like a BAMF BUT!!! I haz a Faeht as a reman, so no thanks. My fed tac on the other hand, might see some very interesting build ideas on that carrier :eek:
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That thing has Romulan battle cloak. From where i am standing the Romulans are far ahead on the curve with carriers.