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  • meimeitoomeimeitoo Member Posts: 12,594 Arc User
    edited December 2014
    dova25 wrote: »
    Viral torpedo+Neutronic Torpedo = Iwin button

    Reciprocity = +2 free space doff for Fed Tac's

    Last time I did PVP in STO more than 90% of teams were FED .

    Just a coincidence ......................

    Reciprocity is awesome! Jelly?! Get yourself a Phantom too! What, can't get one as non-Fed?! Now you know how I felt as a Fed, and Roms were all OP! So, just roll a Fed yourself, like I rolled a Rom once too.
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  • giotarizgiotariz Member Posts: 652 Arc User
    edited December 2014
    meimeitoo wrote: »
    Reciprocity is awesome! Jelly?! Get yourself a Phantom too! What, can't get one as non-Fed?! Now you know how I felt as a Fed, and Roms were all OP! So, just roll a Fed yourself, like I rolled a Rom once too.

    why don't you go back to shooting your borgs? not just because this is pvp forum, also because no one cares, my precious snowflake. :rolleyes:
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  • meimeitoomeimeitoo Member Posts: 12,594 Arc User
    edited December 2014
    giotariz wrote: »
    why don't you go back to shooting your bores? not just because this is pvp forum, also because no one cares, my precious snowflake. :rolleyes:

    What happens in PvP should stay in PvP. So, keep your nerfs out of my hair, and I'll stay out of yours. :)
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  • giotarizgiotariz Member Posts: 652 Arc User
    edited December 2014
    meimeitoo wrote: »
    What happens in PvP should stay in PvP. So, keep your nerfs out of my hair, and I'll stay out of yours. :)

    why are you even here then?

    just abandon the game, you seem the most stupid sto player i've ever seen. :rolleyes:
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  • spaceeagle20spaceeagle20 Member Posts: 971 Arc User
    edited December 2014
    meimeitoo wrote: »
    Nothing wrong with Surgical Strikes either. Leave it alone.

    It's always peeps from the PvP community that want to ruin it for everyone. :(

    I don't think so.…
    In 30-40-50k what do you still see ? Scimitars. ..
    Ionic turbulence? Not worth a boff slot.
    Surgical strikes and neutronic torps? Didn't see any of them … just good ol' faw.
    And no comment about the viral torp … trolling torps don't do DPS.
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  • virusdancervirusdancer Member Posts: 18,687 Arc User
    edited December 2014
    I don't think so.…
    In 30-40-50k what do you still see ? Scimitars. ..
    Ionic turbulence? Not worth a boff slot.
    Surgical strikes and neutronic torps? Didn't see any of them … just good ol' faw.
    And no comment about the viral torp … trolling torps don't do DPS.

    Bet you do see Enhanced Armor Penetration with its -50 DRR instead of -5 DRR. ;)
  • meimeitoomeimeitoo Member Posts: 12,594 Arc User
    edited December 2014
    giotariz wrote: »
    just abandon the game, you seem the most stupid sto player i've ever seen. :rolleyes:

    What a brilliant retort!

    Sad little king of a sad little hill.
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  • giotarizgiotariz Member Posts: 652 Arc User
    edited December 2014
    meimeitoo wrote: »
    What a brilliant retort!

    Sad little king of a sad little hill.

    At least i don't listen to Taylor Swift.
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  • meimeitoomeimeitoo Member Posts: 12,594 Arc User
    edited December 2014
    giotariz wrote: »
    At least i don't listen to Taylor Swift.

    That's not exactly in your favor. :P
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  • heckgoblinheckgoblin Member Posts: 685
    edited December 2014
    It's fascinating to me, how an ability I consider at best a mild nuisance when subjected to it, is considered a game-breaking enjoyment-killing ultrahax-sploit by others less prepared to deal with it. I may be biased, since I use viral torps myself, but I've never felt like they were that dominating even when I'm being hit with them.

    I have a fair bit of points in inertial damps, which helps resist the disable to a degree. Maybe you should try it. I've fought a guy who specced in inertial damps, and my virals didn't bother him one bit.
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  • giotarizgiotariz Member Posts: 652 Arc User
    edited December 2014
    meimeitoo wrote: »
    That's not exactly in your favor. :P

    Sure? Does seem to me.

    AFAIK people who listen to swift are 14 y/o girls or guys with no social life whatsoever.
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  • cptndata1cptndata1 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited December 2014
    giotariz wrote: »
    Sure? Does seem to me.

    AFAIK people who listen to swift are 14 y/o girls or guys with no social life whatsoever.
    You, with your words like knives
    And swords and weapons that you use against me
    You have knocked me off my feet again
    Got me feeling like I'm nothing
    You, with your voice like nails on a chalkboard
    You can take me down with just one single blow
    :D

    OT: meimetowhateveryournameis, There's really no way that nerfing viral torp will hurt your precious little borg slaughtering therapy sessions, the enemies that it's useful on are immune and the ones that aren't immune don't really need it :P
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  • meimeitoomeimeitoo Member Posts: 12,594 Arc User
    edited December 2014
    cptndata1 wrote: »
    You, with your words like knives
    And swords and weapons that you use against me
    You have knocked me off my feet again
    Got me feeling like I'm nothing
    You, with your voice like nails on a chalkboard
    You can take me down with just one single blow
    :D


    Ha! Good one! :)

    @giotariz:

    I bet you got pushed around.
    Somebody made you cold, but the cycle ends right now.
    You can't lead me down that road.
    And you don't know, what you don't know.

    :P

    Sorry, couldn't resist.
    OT: meimetowhateveryournameis, There's really no way that nerfing viral torp will hurt your precious little borg slaughtering therapy sessions, the enemies that it's useful on are immune and the ones that aren't immune don't really need it :P

    I like Viral Torp. But I love my Surgical Strikes even more.

    I just hate it when Cryptic release new stuff I really like, and then peeps immediately want to see it nerfed. Like Reciprocity. The Devs have often said they don't really like A2B. So, I see Reciprocity as the (fancier) replacement for it. Personally I find these new powers quite refreshing and joyful to wield. And to people who are jealous: don't cry for a nerf, just join in on the fun!
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  • cptndata1cptndata1 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited December 2014
    meimeitoo wrote: »
    Ha! Good one! :)

    @giotariz:

    I bet you got pushed around.
    Somebody made you cold, but the cycle ends right now.
    You can't lead me down that road.
    And you don't know, what you don't know.

    :P

    Sorry, couldn't resist.



    I like Viral Torp. But I love my Surgical Strikes even more.

    I just hate it when Cryptic release new stuff I really like, and then peeps immediately want to see it nerfed. Like Reciprocity. The Devs have often said they don't really like A2B. So, I see Reciprocity as the (fancier) replacement for it. Personally I find these new powers quite refreshing and joyful to wield. And to people who are jealous: don't cry for a nerf, just join in on the fun!
    Well honestly viral torp is a problem, but I don't have a problem with surgical strikes, I think that the "geko math" on SS3 might be messed up though.
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  • meimeitoomeimeitoo Member Posts: 12,594 Arc User
    edited December 2014
    cptndata1 wrote: »
    Well honestly viral torp is a problem, but I don't have a problem with surgical strikes, I think that the "geko math" on SS3 might be messed up though.

    Messed up how?! (Serious question). SS3 gives +40% Accuracy for 10 seconds, and +40% Critical Chance for 10 seconds. Looks pretty straightforward to me. :)
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  • grandpadxxgrandpadxx Member Posts: 342
    edited December 2014
    meimeitoo wrote: »


    I like Viral Torp. But I love my Surgical Strikes even more.

    You like it ? This is why PvP sucks.. are you trying to balance your lack of skills with boken **** like some other People ? :rolleyes:



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  • norobladnoroblad Member Posts: 2,624 Arc User
    edited December 2014
    the whole game? Broken by one trait? Is the converse true (can they fix the one trait and fix the entire game) ??
  • meimeitoomeimeitoo Member Posts: 12,594 Arc User
    edited December 2014
    grandpadxx wrote: »
    You like it ? This is why PvP sucks.. are you trying to balance your lack of skills with boken **** like some other People ? :rolleyes:

    Regarts


    No, I don't PvP at all. :P

    And why is it, that whenever a person wants to use something good, people will say "you trying to balance your lack of skills with boken **** like some other people."? Or "You're just using crutches!" That's a popular one too. :)
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  • torachtorach Member Posts: 259 Arc User
    edited December 2014
    meimeitoo wrote: »
    I just hate it when Cryptic release new stuff I really like, and then peeps immediately want to see it nerfed. Like Reciprocity. The Devs have often said they don't really like A2B. So, I see Reciprocity as the (fancier) replacement for it. Personally I find these new powers quite refreshing and joyful to wield. And to people who are jealous: don't cry for a nerf, just join in on the fun!

    As a Romulan KDF I am and would be limited to only use the Faeth to take part of the cheezefest.. meaning i would had to play a vaper/escort to exploit it.. sure i have tried it cause i wanted the shiptrait.. but i must admit.. i felt dirty afterwards..

    It just wasnt right being able to hit peope with 70-80k crits from cannons using surgical strikes 3... also it didnt feel right disabling people all the time using viral torp and ionic turbulence....

    I am forced to play a style of ship i personally dont like playing.. to be able to participate on equal level to the people that uses t6 intel ships. That being said.. i still fly my nicor all the time, and i still kill intel t6 ships all the time.. But there are no options for me to play the style i enjoy the most if i want to use t6 intel ships for a romulan KDF.

    So my point is.. you say dont cry, join the fun... i guess many people would like to.. but they actually cant...


    But the viral torpedo, surgical strikes and ionic turbulence are skills that really needs to be looked into.

    Viral torp needs a longer cooldown 20sec is just insanity..

    Surgical strikes needs to do what the tooltip says.. meaning only add crth and acc as a buff.. not buffing basedmg by x3 like it does today...

    Ionic turbulence also should do what its tooltip say, and not disable the shortcut bars...


    Fixing these 3 abilitites should be easy.. and would be a quick-win from Cryptics part... but seing how they focus more on fixing character costumes instead of fixing game breaking game mechanics... i dont see this happening soon.. if ever...
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  • cptndata1cptndata1 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited December 2014
    meimeitoo wrote: »
    Messed up how?! (Serious question). SS3 gives +40% Accuracy for 10 seconds, and +40% Critical Chance for 10 seconds. Looks pretty straightforward to me. :)
    That's what it says, but some people are saying it provides more than what it says. I haven't tested it so not gonna comment, but it wouldn't be the first time numbers were screwed up in game.
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