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captainmatt2
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Well it's been a long path my old friends (and enemies), let us not take this detour as the end however.. by any means. As I find my interest in the game waning, and my daily play time shrinking evermore; I lack the audacity to command others to endure this current meta as I may have in the past.
It sucks. We all know it sucks. If it isn't A it's B, theres A-Z of worthy gripes to drive a pvper away from this mess right now....
I won't get into which faction gets all the nice toys, what powers are so op, and which torpedo got wrongly nerfed.
The question is what do you do when your true love is bad to you. When your girlfriends just being a fuggin ***** no matter what u say. You step back and ask "is she that hot"?
With a super hot sex bod you might endure alot of pain.....
WE ALL HAVE SUFFERED ENDLESSLY BECUS OF CRAPTIC'S FAIL> TO WHAT END!
I say.. we soldier on. Hibernate if u must, get ur pvp fix elsewhere as the qs remain dead. But for RIGHTEOUS BATTLES SAKE hold course, and keep on keeping on. Swap them rep projects! Research that crafting! Grind your gold kit! For me this phase is done,and the lack of anything left to acquire (for my sole single character) means in between the non existant pvp there is only a void.
I hold out hope, what tiny shreds remain.. hope for a new specialization tree! Hope for a proper array of kdf and romulan t6 ships to come one day! Hope for continual readjustments to the game and meta (we need more xp ! we need ionic and surgical strikes nerfed!)
I hold out hope that a community that has survived so many misteps by the developers can oneday re-emerge with a uniform desire to achieve righteous glory in combat, pew pew, no Q Q.
Until that day comes again I implore you all to hold fast and stay at the ready! For one day again soon minimax the legendary will decloak on ur aft quarter and rain hellfire! QAPLA
It sucks. We all know it sucks. If it isn't A it's B, theres A-Z of worthy gripes to drive a pvper away from this mess right now....
I won't get into which faction gets all the nice toys, what powers are so op, and which torpedo got wrongly nerfed.
The question is what do you do when your true love is bad to you. When your girlfriends just being a fuggin ***** no matter what u say. You step back and ask "is she that hot"?
With a super hot sex bod you might endure alot of pain.....
WE ALL HAVE SUFFERED ENDLESSLY BECUS OF CRAPTIC'S FAIL> TO WHAT END!
I say.. we soldier on. Hibernate if u must, get ur pvp fix elsewhere as the qs remain dead. But for RIGHTEOUS BATTLES SAKE hold course, and keep on keeping on. Swap them rep projects! Research that crafting! Grind your gold kit! For me this phase is done,and the lack of anything left to acquire (for my sole single character) means in between the non existant pvp there is only a void.
I hold out hope, what tiny shreds remain.. hope for a new specialization tree! Hope for a proper array of kdf and romulan t6 ships to come one day! Hope for continual readjustments to the game and meta (we need more xp ! we need ionic and surgical strikes nerfed!)
I hold out hope that a community that has survived so many misteps by the developers can oneday re-emerge with a uniform desire to achieve righteous glory in combat, pew pew, no Q Q.
Until that day comes again I implore you all to hold fast and stay at the ready! For one day again soon minimax the legendary will decloak on ur aft quarter and rain hellfire! QAPLA
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not a fed or a faeire so no thanks
wait, who are you again?
we've broken all our bonds, but life kept going on, what a time, what a time it was..." - Clem Tholet
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not really, he's not me...
Jokes aside, mini's forum name is "realmini".
we've broken all our bonds, but life kept going on, what a time, what a time it was..." - Clem Tholet
and some crafting
and still trying to get a pug borg first thing in the queue whatever its called done without some moron dying in the first five minutes so i can get the damn achievement
-.-
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Maybe they PvP(d) in dark corners of Ker'rat but never joining organized games or queuing in Arena and then saying that PvP is dead is a bit strange now.
I also see some "PvP" people coming back for every dilithium event or Q's wonderbullsh*t and those things can't be further away from PvP, or even PvE for that matter.
Seeing how many of regular known PvPers do it on daily basis, I can safely say that some forum people don't PvP by choice, not by lack of opportunity.
And yeah, there is OP stuff in game, like it always has been, but good healers can still heal, and good killers can still kill, good scis can still do more stuff then just pressing TBR and FBP.
Game is much faster now for average random teams or 1v1s coz of specialisations and some traits, but in balanced teams, PvP is not even close to broken.
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As far as it concerns me, I've been playing only science lately, problem is my sci is still at level 55. I do PvP, but queues are dead there, and when they pop it's always an easy win. Not enough power insulators to resist drain, or not enough coordination to take down a healer.
What you need is a team of f**kers that play PvP for fun and glory. Not for avoiding being defeated.
I agree that spec points are more then a drag to get, but like before it was not required to fly a recluse, bug or a fcking wells to play, win and enjoy, now it's not required to have all items in gold and all spec to max.
Don't know if you noticed but t5/u ships are still able to dish out, drain, heal or soak up damage in right team and adapted setup.
Doing PvP in old ways is just not reasonable anymore.
Judging PvP by doing premades vs PUG or vice versa was never wise.
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Thats so easy.. . :rolleyes:
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now is required to have t6 shiets.
Actually no.
Partigen trait with gold partigen consoles, isokinetic cannon and neutronic spread is way way way more broken then anything in T6 is, but rare people have it and still rarely exploit it the right way, although you can already see those three things are broken because EVERYONE is using one or the other or all three.
I still don't have partigen trait and uber consoles on my romulan(or any toon) but when i get it, I'll come in Pvp, load thalaron and then it will be obvious how much partigens are broken.
Lets just say that having +75 PrtG per console x5 with trait is the equal of having 5 75%kinetic/energy tac consoles that have 100% crth on them. Load CSV an spread and you have a winner, against everyone.
Intel ships in themselves(without traits) just do some new stuff that in team gameplay can be dealt with, UNLIKE 100% accurate spreads that will follow you cloaked, after jump..always.
In any other torpedo it's really no problem unles you're on low hull, but neutronic makes so high damage without kinetic consoles that it can be used on any ship, always.
I have watched a lot of footage from my captured games, and I can safely confirm that t6 abilities for themselves are rather harmless compared to three things i mentioned.
On the other hand, you can't deal with 100% hitting torpedo spread(it hits you even on 200+% defense) 100% penetrating iso cannon, and 100% bullsh*t doffed TBR in hard situations.
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Gather Intel ability is one of the best solo/team mechanics that has ever graced STO PvP.
Ability to surgically remove SC,Tac or ENG buffs after 15 sec of exposing makes it best tactical, actual skill/team skill based ability.
It is complete opposite of fly/shoot/heal spam based on CD timers, it is the ability that negates bindkey mashing.
Also, all those things that need tweaking don't stop us having nice, tight games.
4 5v5 we did on OPvP last night: 15:14 12:15 9:15 5:15
Mixed t5/t6 teams, balanced on hilberts board.
Game is much quicker now in many ways, if you don't have an air tight plan and good backup plan when approaching situation you will fail.
that is the problem when adapting to pvp in DR. Can't say that i have adapted even 60% yet, but it is easily doable with different mindset then before.
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give me t6 traits and all the t6 bs in game and you go with your t5 U ship...Im sure you will win with your super dupper skillZ.:rolleyes:
game is broken ,pvp pops once a year ...thats either because people are stupid for not playing it or because the design is stupid .Guess its easier for everyone to be stupid than to call the design stupid and broken.
P.S.If I disable your ship for like 5 minutes and placate every 2seconds dont worry ,its the best thing that ever happend to sto.
Again, reading comprehension.
1) 1v1 t5vst6 is unreasonable to try, which spalato and me have clearly demonstrated.
2) queue pops the times I'm on when i queue up.
if not then we make games on OPvP, like every night.
3) in team, disables and traits don't matter at all, they simply don't have the magnitude like in 1v1.
Focus fire will still kill the enemy, and focus defense will keep you alive, and better equipped/skilled player/team will win against weaker like always.
4) like i said many times, there are things that need heavy tweaking, especially traits.
but in actual team play all that cheese is not 1% as bad as all might of cheese in 1v1.
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Around what time is that? For most of the time that I'm on, which is usually too often - the queues are dead, Ker'rat is dead, and even OPvP is silent for hours on end.
somewhere between 10pm UTC-1am UTC.
we are doing games every night and queue is with like 15 players in.
And what is really interesting, OPvP is hive, more active then any other channel i'm on including zones and STFs.
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kk gaem is ded. queues don't pop, OPvP is a cemetery and over 50 people playing PvP in my last video are imagined and made up by me. Ppl that play PvP every night in arena or OPvP are also a dirty lie.
BTW. PvP now requires different mindset, if you didn't have airtight super t5 build before and like I see you didn't, you cannot expect surviving in it now simply by upgrading. Wells healer could be useful before, now it's just a glass chin healer. It is the same as you would try to make Defiant drainer.
Tanks like Tal shiar cruiser and Recluse with over double the hull still do great.
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The main issue I have with the way things are right now... its just not fun.
No my 2 weeks leave has not dulled my brain... I understand the current mechanics quite well. Yes I'm also talking about premades. When things change I start the theory crafting like many vets do. I can think of teams that would be so annoying to play against that it simply wouldn't be fun on either side. At least previously most annoying setups had super hard counters.
Trust me shark if I cared to log back in and play my PM traited / VM torped / Reprocity running / Super torping / Delta Canon slapping Scryer I could make people cry all day... or I could roll play in some more standard ship. To me its just not all that fun anymore.
Your right though why do I bother to DOOOM on these forums. (I don't believe I am quite a hard core card board sign guy yet though) Well I do it cause STO could be a great game... the game has seen some real junk released over the last 4 years... and to be honest mostly at some point Cryptic manages to fix things at least someone. Frustratingly that always seems to last a week or two before some new BS gets thrown on top. Still if I'm being honest if I had zero hope your right I wouldn't bother being even here.
Who knows see ya in game again at some point. Cryptic has one more new game to weather here in Dec... who knows though. They have survived more then a few games that had the potential to steal there players. I won't ever write STO off... but man is it tempting. The pvp imo yes it is in one of the worst states balance wise it has ever been in. The EP and the lead designer have both called me an exploiter in the past month or so which has also sort of peeved me. Still I would come back to there game if they showed they had even a minor understanding that video games are supposed to be fun. (Grind fest pve... and Stun fest PvP are both neither)
Ive disagreed with some things uve said in past but this is 100% correct
Address the various issues with HY/TS Neutronics?
Address EAP giving -50 DRR instead of -5 DRR?
Address the -5s CD with the new 3pc Lobi set?
Address the Ionic disable and the follow?
Address Predictive Algorithms not cleansing the debuff?
Tweak the internal CD on Reciprocity?
Tweak the extremes of Particle Manipulator?
Add a Heavy Disruptor Lance?
I "hear ya bruh". I can post a video of a guy winning the world rally championship in car i had.
I was not driving but it's the same car.
And i still don't know who You are, when You're playing when You don't see us playing. "Your timezone GMT" say nothing. GMf**kingT lasts 24hrs. I'm on GMT+1 and play at evening-night.
You can't tell me there are no people in, because you are simply wrong.
I could care less about your fail healer wells anyway, like you don't want to care about my FAW a2b drain avenger, right?
And yes @Starwrath we had some very balanced games with mixed t5/t6 games, 5v5 or 10v10 it doesn't matter.
Anyone saying otherwise is simply talking out of his/her TRIBBLE, if i must be rude.
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...but it was a mt.