Or more likely they'll trot out a Dev to explain how DR is actually wonderful ... , and really how it has been the best expansion ever, and how the players love it .
I don't like what the game has become either, but this report needs to stop being thrown around in relation to DR. That report ends on September 30, but DR didn't launch until October 14. DR numbers aren't included in there.
I don't like what the game has become either, but this report needs to stop being thrown around in relation to DR. That report ends on September 30, but DR didn't launch until October 14. DR numbers aren't included in there.
I might agree but since DR decision was made before September 30 up to a year previously. It does have some meaning.
This is the thing. I think they knew about most of the changes during the Las Vegas convention and didn't say much because the player base would have blasted and torn their plans to shreds. They did not expect players to adjust to changes to power level meaning Cryptic doesn't know their game mechanics.
After that nerfing bat and bad PR kicked in. Insulting players and the specialization and skill update was probably the last straw.
Now I hope they realize, social media can be a two edge sword and they going get the bad side of it. Someone have on there desk a memo, Happy Holidays probably.
When massively starts poking at STO you know something's wrong.
Considering that the previous author of the Massively STO articles was a pom-pom girl for Team Geko , maybe they should consider themselves part of the problem .
... because when no tough questions are ever asked , neither by the media or fan podcasts , then you invite a "we can do no wrong" outlook on Cryptic's part ... , which in turn just invites disaster ...
I thought the article was kind of weak myself, writer sure went on a lot about the whole years to fine tune mechanics that one patch messed up. Anyone that has every played STO knows there haven't been any fine tuned mechanics here ever.
The whole engine changing thing is a pretty dumb topic. You can't just change engines without redoing everything in the game. I'm pretty sure the engine, while it does have some very hard limits on effects that limit what can be done, isn't the problem. There is a terribly written UI layer, and more and more effects are being put inthe game that it has a hard time with (gas effects are bad). I'm pretty sure they could easily add in more options than press f to interact on everything if they wanted, but they don't want to.
I thought the article was kind of weak myself, writer sure went on a lot about the whole years to fine tune mechanics that one patch messed up. Anyone that has every played STO knows there haven't been any fine tuned mechanics here ever.
That's what I was thinking when I read it. When has there ever been balance in this game? When has there ever been a system that didn't have one problem or another? Did I miss it?
I thought the article was kind of weak myself, writer sure went on a lot about the whole years to fine tune mechanics that one patch messed up. Anyone that has every played STO knows there haven't been any fine tuned mechanics here ever.
I've read some article on STO from the same guy, and he doesn't seems to play STO at all. For example, when the nerf to argala came, and later the un-nerf of removed XP, it seems he only have D'Angelo side. Here is the article.
I don't know, I don't think this guy is even playing the game, he is just relating informations.
He say he play a bit, but by his own admit, he didn't play much recently. So he probably doesn't know well the current DR situation.
I might agree but since DR decision was made before September 30 up to a year previously. It does have some meaning.
This is the thing. I think they knew about most of the changes during the Las Vegas convention and didn't say much because the player base would have blasted and torn their plans to shreds. They did not expect players to adjust to changes to power level meaning Cryptic doesn't know their game mechanics.
After that nerfing bat and bad PR kicked in. Insulting players and the specialization and skill update was probably the last straw.
Now I hope they realize, social media can be a two edge sword and they going get the bad side of it. Someone have on there desk a memo, Happy Holidays probably.
I don't disagree with you, but I just don't think we're doing ourselves any favors by using that report in relation to DR. The STO team is going to look at it, realize that DR numbers aren't in there, and then promptly toss it out the window.
I have no problems throwing one of their reports back in their faces, but it needs to be the right report. The one we want is going to be the Q4 report, which should be out probably in Jan/Feb. That's the one we need to keep an eye out for. That's the one we need to use.
Considering that the previous author of the Massively STO articles was a pom-pom girl for Team Geko , maybe they should consider themselves part of the problem .
... because when no tough questions are ever asked , neither by the media or fan podcasts , then you invite a "we can do no wrong" outlook on Cryptic's part ... , which in turn just invites disaster ...
I agree, for years Massively used to be nothing more than a mouthpiece for STO the same that Priority one is.
The funny thing is that they stopped their weekly Captains Log on STO, because people found the cheerleader writhing it to be nothing but a sycophant who seemed to want nothing more than to get into Cryptic the same way others have, by fawning over them.
I think it's unfair to attack Terilynn like that. I disagreed with her at times (and disagreed with Havraha at times) but as a fleetmate of hers, I really believe her commentary was as honest as could be and written from a very unique perspective: that of a well-to-do Trekkie who is not a traditional gamer and who has expensive hobbies while having very little of the traditional gamer perspective. And that speaks for many of the types of players the game has attracted over its life.
And much like Chris at STOked, she seems like the kind of person who generally only comments when she has something fairly constructive to say. And she has lower expectations for STO, I think, than Chris or most of us here do, in terms of amount of bang for buck. Last I saw, she was thrilled with DR but had only hit level 55 and she's very casual. Me, I DO expect at least a WoW level experience for WoW levels of money as a consumer although I am perfectly willing to brainstorm how to get there too, if I feel my feedback is being collected.
Incidentally, this article has a byline and is credited to Eliot Lefebvre, who alongside Justin Olivetti, are Massively's columnists who cover STO. Not anonymous.
Terilynn Shull or Shill as she was, just spouted nothing but how great the game was and how the forums were full of malcontented idiots. She deserved all the grief she got both on here and on Massively.
Still, 4 years + and loving these forums. I may not have played STO since the 45 day patch, but the forums have been a gift that keeps on giving.
The only downside is that the CDF seems to be loosing members left right and center.
I note only 2 in this thread when normally I would expect at least 3.
No "Cosmic" input into this thread? No "Iconic" words of wisdoms from the other Knight?
Straight from the mouth of one of the leaders of the CDF - "I tell you what, Haven't spent any money either - I'm a lousy freeloader" - Jonsills 17/12/2014
Terilynn Shull or Shill as she was, just spouted nothing but how great the game was and how the forums were full of malcontented idiots. She deserved all the grief she got both on here and on Massively.
To be honest, I never really followed the massively news on STO, reading them on time to time when I saw a link here. So I went and searched about her articles.
So far, the articles from her I read just show someone who love the game. By her own admission. It's not objective journalism, and was never meant to be. It's just some talk about the game she likes.
It's not all about unicorns and rainbow, in her article about loadout she says it's a good system but it's very flawed, and she will not use it.
So far I haven't seen an article where she say anything bad about the community. But I maye have missed it.
That's what I was thinking when I read it. When has there ever been balance in this game? When has there ever been a system that didn't have one problem or another? Did I miss it?
I like to think of it in terms of chaos theory, which (amongst other things) predicts that a system on the verge of collapse starts exhibiting heftly fluctuations. This generally applies to economies, but I see no reason why it shouldn't apply to games either. And I think that is the sort of imbalabce Massively was referring to: huge, panicly nerfs here, followed by doubling XP the next day; missions that are either way too easy, or way too hard; etc. I don't think they meant ship balances per se (or power creep balances and such).
In the above sense, I think this game is certainly out of balance: it's fluctuating too heavily. Doesn't spell 'doom' per se, but it cannot be a sign of something good.
Here in the forum and to some extent Reddit, the issues with STO stay in the family. We muse, mutter, yell, and prognosticate to a select small audience.
MASSIVELY reaches a substantially wider audience. It is read by industry insiders. The article will have an impact in the boardroom at PWE, and yes it will be discussed by management. Even at CBS.
But this article isn't favourable in the slightest, no matter how skewed the context is. Add this article to the consistently negative facebook comments, and the negative twitter comments and a pattern emerges.
Something is rotten in the state of Denmark.
Which is why I support those fans who Blog or Vlog about STO independently .
We do not need Priority 1 or the likes of the former Massively STO article writer to frame what STO is in public opinion .
Take the Vlog below .
I do not agree with all of it , but it is mostly coherant and the Vlogger at least made a bullet point list and didn't ramble off like many Vlogs tend to do .
To be honest, I never really followed the massively news on STO, reading them on time to time when I saw a link here. So I went and searched about her articles.
So far, the articles from her I read just show someone who love the game. By her own admission. It's not objective journalism, and was never meant to be. It's just some talk about the game she likes.
It's not all about unicorns and rainbow, in her article about loadout she says it's a good system but it's very flawed, and she will not use it.
So far I haven't seen an article where she say anything bad about the community. But I maye have missed it.
There are some in her articles but it's her comments after that used to rile people.
Fanboy/girl or not, whenever anything went down that had the forums in flames, she would either skirt over completely, or would brush it off as a storm in a teacup.
She's up there with Wishstone as a person who I disliked the most.
Straight from the mouth of one of the leaders of the CDF - "I tell you what, Haven't spent any money either - I'm a lousy freeloader" - Jonsills 17/12/2014
No "Cosmic" input into this thread? No "Iconic" words of wisdoms from the other Knight?
Hey, yesterday when I checked this thread wasn't even up yet! People gotta sleep and work and sh*t.
I always get the impressions from threads like this that people think Cryptic is completely oblivious to what is going on around them, sitting on their hands and doing nothing, only to suddenly panic and do something.
We already see on Tribble the first tweak to skill points for example.
People that listened or read about the Priority One podcast could have noticed that the developers are thinking about how to make the upgrade system more alt-friendly.
And people love to have a selective memory. Extra inventory slots have been long forgotten. Just like the alt-friendly sponsorship token that was expanded to cover all the reputations and not just the Dyson reputation.
It takes time. Maybe it won't be satisfying to everyone.
But considering that if Cryptic had not released Delta Rising - we'd still be flying Tier 5 ships, still doing the same missions as before over and over but not slowly* getting specialization points for it, we wouldn't have new Bridge Officer abilities to play around with...
*) very slowly
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Hey, yesterday when I checked this thread wasn't even up yet! People gotta sleep and work and sh*t.
I always get the impressions from threads like this that people think Cryptic is completely oblivious to what is going on around them, sitting on their hands and doing nothing, only to suddenly panic and do something.
We already see on Tribble the first tweak to skill points for example.
People that listened or read about the Priority One podcast could have noticed that the developers are thinking about how to make the upgrade system more alt-friendly.
And people love to have a selective memory. Extra inventory slots have been long forgotten. Just like the alt-friendly sponsorship token that was expanded to cover all the reputations and not just the Dyson reputation.
It takes time. Maybe it won't be satisfying to everyone.
But considering that if Cryptic had not released Delta Rising - we'd still be flying Tier 5 ships, still doing the same missions as before over and over but not slowly* getting specialization points for it, we wouldn't have new Bridge Officer abilities to play around with...
*) very slowly
Was I a worthy representative of the Cryptic Defense Force? Problems with my writing style? Call 555-CRYPTIC-DEFENSE-FORCE.
Huzzah!
That's right, you certainly told us.
Now that makes 3.
Straight from the mouth of one of the leaders of the CDF - "I tell you what, Haven't spent any money either - I'm a lousy freeloader" - Jonsills 17/12/2014
I'm sure Cryptic will pay as much attention to this article as they do to any of us on here in the end.
For me. I think this pretty much sums up what Virus is saying.. Had the article been written properly, there is no way Cryptic would have been able to shelf or ignore it. But, as it stands, Cryptic will very likely pick it apart as easily as Virus did, and carry on with this 'half baked' mess they are calling an expansion.
On the contrary, I believe it is entirely relevant and makes perfect sense. It's a further explanation as to why DR was rushed out the door unfinished.
"In view of US subsidiary's recent performance and near-term business outlook that are below our expectations, we recognized acquisition-related impairments in this quarter," said CEO Robert Xiao in a statement."
Sounds to me like Cryptic wanted/needed to show a good number for Q3, so they rushed out DR as fast as possible to cash in.
But considering that if Cryptic had not released Delta Rising - we'd still be flying Tier 5 ships, still doing the same missions as before over and over but not slowly* getting specialization points for it, we wouldn't have new Bridge Officer abilities to play around with...
You mean all the stuff that has driven a lot more players away then its brought back.
As is always the case with Cryptic the main fail was not simply listening to all the people that gave them good feedback when Delta was on tribble to begin with. I still don't understand how a company with less then a handful of fingers worth of internal testers, is so willing to ignore the players doing free work for them. (this last test of delta where previous sub accounts couldn't provide feedback was also completely braindead... if there excuse was to try and improve player feedback at least listen to it)
All the terrible communication break downs and slaps directly in the face after there launch didn't help either. (first time I can recall ever doing anything in a game that had me being called an exploiter by a EP... that alone had me seriously considering an /uninstall. At this point my STO is still on the drive, hasn't been updated in a good month now though.)
On the contrary, I believe it is entirely relevant and makes perfect sense. It's a further explanation as to why DR was rushed out the door unfinished.
"In view of US subsidiary's recent performance and near-term business outlook that are below our expectations, we recognized acquisition-related impairments in this quarter," said CEO Robert Xiao in a statement."
Sounds to me like Cryptic wanted/needed to show a good number for Q4, so they rushed out DR as fast as possible to cash in.
I would agree that it might give some explanation as to why DR came out the way it did, but I still maintain that it doesn't help our case here. It might be good for our own reference, but not for throwing at Cryptic.
Cryptic only looks at the numbers. When they see that DR numbers aren't in there, it gets tossed out the window since it doesn't reflect DR's performance after launch. The Q4 report will though. That's the one we need.
Going off old school CE I would agree, having worked with the current builds of it, I would say otherwise. It works perfectly well on my old Phenom II X2 555 unlocked to quadcore. with only a AMD/ATi 5450 running in it. It's running on low gfx settings (still looking better than a lot of engines) but it runs smoothly at 30 FPS. It's the same with most current engines in that they have improved scalability for older systems, especially with the advent of detail through tessellation.
I feel most people missed the point that my comment was facetious regarding the engine switch. I was suggesting that it would be simpler to fix the issues by fully remaking the game using another studio than let them try to fix it at Cryptic. But hey the literal responses have been fun too
There are a quite a few of us aspie sorts in this game.. literal is how we read everything! Personally, I need flags, or subtext, to let me know exactly how to read things. Glad I kept reading though, I get where you were coming from, and I've learnt a few words and terms
Need it for what? I don't need any financial report to know that DR was a stinker.
To throw it back at Cryptic. That's why everyone keeps bringing up the Q3 report isn't it? If you're going to throw numbers at them, it needs to be the right numbers.
Cryptic only looks at the numbers. When they see that DR numbers aren't in there, it gets tossed out the window since it doesn't reflect DR's performance after launch. The Q4 report will though. That's the one we need.
I think his point is more this;
Cryptic had a so so Q3. (pre Delta numbers).
Delta really needed another couple months of work and testing. Which would have meant that releasing it would have kept it perhaps entirely out of Q4 numbers as well... meaning there entire year would weak as Q2 and Q1 didn't have expansion money behind them either.
So they pushed Delta out when they did (October 14th) to ensure all 3 months of Q4 will be "Expansion" money.
Think about it they even "allowed" us to start the $$$$ ball rolling by upgrading our gear early. Q4 starts October 1st... and they let us start using tech and burning D a few days before Q4 started.
Looking back on it, its pretty clear why things launched when they did... and it wasn't because they where ready. In fact I seem to remember them adding more Voice overs to a couple of the delta missions after they launched it mid Oct. lol
Delta really needed another couple months of work and testing. Which would have meant that releasing it would have kept it perhaps entirely out of Q4 numbers as well... meaning there entire year would weak as Q2 and Q1 didn't have expansion money behind them either.
So they pushed Delta out when they did (October 14th) to ensure all 3 months of Q4 will be "Expansion" money.
Think about it they even "allowed" us to start the $$$$ ball rolling by upgrading our gear early. Q4 starts October 1st... and they let us start using tech and burning D a few days before Q4 started.
Looking back on it, its pretty clear why things launched when they did... and it wasn't because they where ready. In fact I seem to remember them adding more Voice overs to a couple of the delta missions after they launched it mid Oct. lol
I get that point, I really do. But if players are going to keep bringing up reports to show how badly DR is doing, then it needs to be the right report. That's my point here.
How are you so sure the game has been doing poorly?
Kind of depends on what numbers you look at wouldn't it?
Remember the amount of dil going around if just 1 whale upgraded...
5 million dil is more than I spent across all characters my whole time in the game.
So I don't see no reason why DR can easily have say less people in queues but excessive amounts of dil in circulation?
Same thing can be said for leveling, if just 1 whale is doing those 800 missions to level then again more than I ever did on any character.
Why shouldn't they be able to yank out numbers that say more dil to them and more story missions played, total, than ever before? And then say that is why it's the best expansion ever?
Number of people online versus amount of money spent?
I mean I agree as much as the next person about all the gamebreaking problems DR brought about but I also don't think there isn't any reason the whales aren't breaking new dil records nightly
Yes...but them doing something about it will basically be release T5/6/whatever the current high tier is connie, milk the game for what's left and then walk away.
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You nailed it. It's the BEST expansion ever.. Let me try to sum it up better http://www.gamesindustry.biz/articles/2014-11-26-us-operations-drag-on-perfect-worlds-q3-performance
I don't like what the game has become either, but this report needs to stop being thrown around in relation to DR. That report ends on September 30, but DR didn't launch until October 14. DR numbers aren't included in there.
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I might agree but since DR decision was made before September 30 up to a year previously. It does have some meaning.
This is the thing. I think they knew about most of the changes during the Las Vegas convention and didn't say much because the player base would have blasted and torn their plans to shreds. They did not expect players to adjust to changes to power level meaning Cryptic doesn't know their game mechanics.
After that nerfing bat and bad PR kicked in. Insulting players and the specialization and skill update was probably the last straw.
Now I hope they realize, social media can be a two edge sword and they going get the bad side of it. Someone have on there desk a memo, Happy Holidays probably.
Considering that the previous author of the Massively STO articles was a pom-pom girl for Team Geko , maybe they should consider themselves part of the problem .
... because when no tough questions are ever asked , neither by the media or fan podcasts , then you invite a "we can do no wrong" outlook on Cryptic's part ... , which in turn just invites disaster ...
The whole engine changing thing is a pretty dumb topic. You can't just change engines without redoing everything in the game. I'm pretty sure the engine, while it does have some very hard limits on effects that limit what can be done, isn't the problem. There is a terribly written UI layer, and more and more effects are being put inthe game that it has a hard time with (gas effects are bad). I'm pretty sure they could easily add in more options than press f to interact on everything if they wanted, but they don't want to.
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That's what I was thinking when I read it. When has there ever been balance in this game? When has there ever been a system that didn't have one problem or another? Did I miss it?
Here is the article.
I don't know, I don't think this guy is even playing the game, he is just relating informations.
He say he play a bit, but by his own admit, he didn't play much recently. So he probably doesn't know well the current DR situation.
I don't disagree with you, but I just don't think we're doing ourselves any favors by using that report in relation to DR. The STO team is going to look at it, realize that DR numbers aren't in there, and then promptly toss it out the window.
I have no problems throwing one of their reports back in their faces, but it needs to be the right report. The one we want is going to be the Q4 report, which should be out probably in Jan/Feb. That's the one we need to keep an eye out for. That's the one we need to use.
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I agree, for years Massively used to be nothing more than a mouthpiece for STO the same that Priority one is.
The funny thing is that they stopped their weekly Captains Log on STO, because people found the cheerleader writhing it to be nothing but a sycophant who seemed to want nothing more than to get into Cryptic the same way others have, by fawning over them.
Terilynn Shull or Shill as she was, just spouted nothing but how great the game was and how the forums were full of malcontented idiots. She deserved all the grief she got both on here and on Massively.
Still, 4 years + and loving these forums. I may not have played STO since the 45 day patch, but the forums have been a gift that keeps on giving.
The only downside is that the CDF seems to be loosing members left right and center.
I note only 2 in this thread when normally I would expect at least 3.
No "Cosmic" input into this thread? No "Iconic" words of wisdoms from the other Knight?
So far, the articles from her I read just show someone who love the game. By her own admission. It's not objective journalism, and was never meant to be. It's just some talk about the game she likes.
It's not all about unicorns and rainbow, in her article about loadout she says it's a good system but it's very flawed, and she will not use it.
So far I haven't seen an article where she say anything bad about the community. But I maye have missed it.
I like to think of it in terms of chaos theory, which (amongst other things) predicts that a system on the verge of collapse starts exhibiting heftly fluctuations. This generally applies to economies, but I see no reason why it shouldn't apply to games either. And I think that is the sort of imbalabce Massively was referring to: huge, panicly nerfs here, followed by doubling XP the next day; missions that are either way too easy, or way too hard; etc. I don't think they meant ship balances per se (or power creep balances and such).
In the above sense, I think this game is certainly out of balance: it's fluctuating too heavily. Doesn't spell 'doom' per se, but it cannot be a sign of something good.
Which is why I support those fans who Blog or Vlog about STO independently .
We do not need Priority 1 or the likes of the former Massively STO article writer to frame what STO is in public opinion .
Take the Vlog below .
I do not agree with all of it , but it is mostly coherant and the Vlogger at least made a bullet point list and didn't ramble off like many Vlogs tend to do .
http://youtu.be/mD2oL_UKQ8Y
There are some in her articles but it's her comments after that used to rile people.
Fanboy/girl or not, whenever anything went down that had the forums in flames, she would either skirt over completely, or would brush it off as a storm in a teacup.
She's up there with Wishstone as a person who I disliked the most.
I always get the impressions from threads like this that people think Cryptic is completely oblivious to what is going on around them, sitting on their hands and doing nothing, only to suddenly panic and do something.
We already see on Tribble the first tweak to skill points for example.
People that listened or read about the Priority One podcast could have noticed that the developers are thinking about how to make the upgrade system more alt-friendly.
And people love to have a selective memory. Extra inventory slots have been long forgotten. Just like the alt-friendly sponsorship token that was expanded to cover all the reputations and not just the Dyson reputation.
It takes time. Maybe it won't be satisfying to everyone.
But considering that if Cryptic had not released Delta Rising - we'd still be flying Tier 5 ships, still doing the same missions as before over and over but not slowly* getting specialization points for it, we wouldn't have new Bridge Officer abilities to play around with...
*) very slowly
Was I a worthy representative of the Cryptic Defense Force? Problems with my writing style? Call 555-CRYPTIC-DEFENSE-FORCE.
Huzzah!
That's right, you certainly told us.
Now that makes 3.
For me. I think this pretty much sums up what Virus is saying.. Had the article been written properly, there is no way Cryptic would have been able to shelf or ignore it. But, as it stands, Cryptic will very likely pick it apart as easily as Virus did, and carry on with this 'half baked' mess they are calling an expansion.
So, Massively stop getting the checks from cryptic? lol..
Ok, but still DR is the best expancion ever and the players love it
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You mean all the stuff that has driven a lot more players away then its brought back.
As is always the case with Cryptic the main fail was not simply listening to all the people that gave them good feedback when Delta was on tribble to begin with. I still don't understand how a company with less then a handful of fingers worth of internal testers, is so willing to ignore the players doing free work for them. (this last test of delta where previous sub accounts couldn't provide feedback was also completely braindead... if there excuse was to try and improve player feedback at least listen to it)
All the terrible communication break downs and slaps directly in the face after there launch didn't help either. (first time I can recall ever doing anything in a game that had me being called an exploiter by a EP... that alone had me seriously considering an /uninstall. At this point my STO is still on the drive, hasn't been updated in a good month now though.)
I would agree that it might give some explanation as to why DR came out the way it did, but I still maintain that it doesn't help our case here. It might be good for our own reference, but not for throwing at Cryptic.
Cryptic only looks at the numbers. When they see that DR numbers aren't in there, it gets tossed out the window since it doesn't reflect DR's performance after launch. The Q4 report will though. That's the one we need.
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There are a quite a few of us aspie sorts in this game.. literal is how we read everything! Personally, I need flags, or subtext, to let me know exactly how to read things. Glad I kept reading though, I get where you were coming from, and I've learnt a few words and terms
To throw it back at Cryptic. That's why everyone keeps bringing up the Q3 report isn't it? If you're going to throw numbers at them, it needs to be the right numbers.
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I think his point is more this;
Cryptic had a so so Q3. (pre Delta numbers).
Delta really needed another couple months of work and testing. Which would have meant that releasing it would have kept it perhaps entirely out of Q4 numbers as well... meaning there entire year would weak as Q2 and Q1 didn't have expansion money behind them either.
So they pushed Delta out when they did (October 14th) to ensure all 3 months of Q4 will be "Expansion" money.
Think about it they even "allowed" us to start the $$$$ ball rolling by upgrading our gear early. Q4 starts October 1st... and they let us start using tech and burning D a few days before Q4 started.
Looking back on it, its pretty clear why things launched when they did... and it wasn't because they where ready. In fact I seem to remember them adding more Voice overs to a couple of the delta missions after they launched it mid Oct. lol
I get that point, I really do. But if players are going to keep bringing up reports to show how badly DR is doing, then it needs to be the right report. That's my point here.
The quarter hasn't ended yet, so not all the numbers are in. They're also going to be releasing them anyway in the Q4 report.
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Kind of depends on what numbers you look at wouldn't it?
Remember the amount of dil going around if just 1 whale upgraded...
5 million dil is more than I spent across all characters my whole time in the game.
So I don't see no reason why DR can easily have say less people in queues but excessive amounts of dil in circulation?
Same thing can be said for leveling, if just 1 whale is doing those 800 missions to level then again more than I ever did on any character.
Why shouldn't they be able to yank out numbers that say more dil to them and more story missions played, total, than ever before? And then say that is why it's the best expansion ever?
Number of people online versus amount of money spent?
I mean I agree as much as the next person about all the gamebreaking problems DR brought about but I also don't think there isn't any reason the whales aren't breaking new dil records nightly
This is exactly what's coming.
It's telling that being thought of as a dev is now considered an insult lol