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  • erei1erei1 Member Posts: 4,081 Arc User
    edited November 2014
    To be honest, that's a first time I see them discount recently released ship. Usually they "skip" the first discount promotion.

    Anyway, sadly I already bought the only ship I was interested in (the T6 Tron cruiser, whatever his name), using my dil, and T5 ships are not interesting anymore (except for the consoles).


    So yeah, I'll keep my zen/dil.
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  • lored2deathlored2death Member Posts: 6 Arc User
    edited November 2014
    I have a novel idea:

    Give back decent rewards.

    Give back decent skill points for kills.

    Make crafting more manageable and less cost-prohibitive.

    Less need for sales and constant events to try to bring players back because we'll be in-game playing and buying stuff.

    Also of note, I haven't seen an event like this so close after a "major" release since launch. Methinks they be hurting, Cap'n.
  • coupaholiccoupaholic Member Posts: 2,188 Arc User
    edited November 2014
    neoakiraii wrote: »
    You guys don't have Internet over there? Wow, what a horrible country ;):D:P

    I'll have you know we get fantastic WiFi signal from Prince Charles' ears.

    In other news, a company offers a sale during the most popular sale period in the year. More at 11.

    At this point why do we even need reasons to be pissed off? You might as well make stuff up.
  • meimeitoomeimeitoo Member Posts: 12,594 Arc User
    edited November 2014
    Well, I, for one, thought this was an excellent deal! I bought 24,000 Zen, and a discounted Phantom Escort & keys. Thank you, Cryptic!
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  • flash525flash525 Member Posts: 5,441 Arc User
    edited November 2014
    I wouldn't know. Being Australian and English.
    England has been doing the Black Friday thing for a few years now...
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  • virusdancervirusdancer Member Posts: 18,687 Arc User
    edited November 2014
    coupaholic wrote: »
    At this point why do we even need reasons to be pissed off? You might as well make stuff up.

    I read about the exwife deciding to leave me in patch notes...damn Cryptic devs, they nerfed my marriage! ;)
  • erei1erei1 Member Posts: 4,081 Arc User
    edited November 2014
    I read about the exwife deciding to leave me in patch notes...damn Cryptic devs, they nerfed my marriage! ;)
    That's fun, because I've read my GF is leaving her husband to leave with me in the patch note !
    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
  • leviathan99#2867 leviathan99 Member Posts: 7,747 Arc User
    edited November 2014
    I read about the exwife deciding to leave me in patch notes...damn Cryptic devs, they nerfed my marriage! ;)

    Sorry. Your honeymoon was apparently 17x too enjoyable.

    Also note:

    The "for worse" portion of your vows has been increased by 300%.

    The "for better" portion of your vows has been increased by 300%, excluding weekends, romance, and anniversaries.

    The "in sickness" portion of your vows has been increased by 300%.

    The "in health" portion of your vows should now reflect accurately stated values based on your last physical, excluding viruses and diseases.

    The "until death do us part" portion of your vows should remain unchanged, however "death" is now defined as "until one of you thinks you can do better".

    You should notice no difference in your progress! Any current progress will be unaffected. However, you should note that due to an exploit located in Las Vegas, Nevada where many players were wed at chapels, we have decided to annul those weddings because the mechanics were not functioning as intended. You may fill out a simple 300 page wedding license form, to be mailed one page at a time, at a rate of no more than one page per week.

    Additionally, we will be issuing you a new fiancee once every six months.
  • odyssey47odyssey47 Member Posts: 524 Arc User
    edited November 2014
    Exactly what the title says.

    Cryptic's grabbing desperately for money. I wouldn't spend a dime on this game right now.

    I guess Wal-Mart is desperate for money as well with their Black Friday deals right? Go away.
  • leviathan99#2867 leviathan99 Member Posts: 7,747 Arc User
    edited November 2014
    flash525 wrote: »
    England has been doing the Black Friday thing for a few years now...

    Bristol's been doing Black Monday since 1209! (Dublin helped with that.)
  • smokeybacon90smokeybacon90 Member Posts: 2,252 Arc User
    edited November 2014
    Because Black Friday deals is a thing unique to STO right?
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  • flash525flash525 Member Posts: 5,441 Arc User
    edited November 2014
    Bristol's been doing Black Monday since 1209! (Dublin helped with that.)
    Wouldn't that by Cyber Monday? :P I'll have to head down, it's only some 15-20miles from me.

    Edit: It's possible I've missed an intended joke here?
    PS: Hello to a fellow south-westerner.
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  • qziqzaqziqza Member Posts: 1,044 Arc User
    edited November 2014
    then note the post above mine, or google "black Friday"

    Yeah, my 1st thought on logging into game was 'Oh dear, things be ba....' then I noticed Amazon are putting out some crazy Black Friday deals in the UK too, quick search on google and 'Don't Panic!' I have to agree, Its just a holiday sale on top of a holiday sale.
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  • janus1975janus1975 Member Posts: 739 Arc User
    edited November 2014
    Sorry. Your honeymoon was apparently 17x too enjoyable.

    Also note:

    The "for worse" portion of your vows has been increased by 300%.

    The "for better" portion of your vows has been increased by 300%, excluding weekends, romance, and anniversaries.

    The "in sickness" portion of your vows has been increased by 300%.

    The "in health" portion of your vows should now reflect accurately stated values based on your last physical, excluding viruses and diseases.

    The "until death do us part" portion of your vows should remain unchanged, however "death" is now defined as "until one of you thinks you can do better".

    You should notice no difference in your progress! Any current progress will be unaffected. However, you should note that due to an exploit located in Las Vegas, Nevada where many players were wed at chapels, we have decided to annul those weddings because the mechanics were not functioning as intended. You may fill out a simple 300 page wedding license form, to be mailed one page at a time, at a rate of no more than one page per week.

    Additionally, we will be issuing you a new fiancee once every six months.

    My Big Fat STO Wedding?
  • riccardo171riccardo171 Member Posts: 1,802 Arc User
    edited November 2014
    Dude it's black friday, what were you expecting?
  • vsilverwings1vsilverwings1 Member Posts: 572 Arc User
    edited November 2014
    As Spock would say "Fascinating".

    Okay Cryptic this is my perspective. I see the game getting worse to put it generally; grind left, right and centre, bugs/broken stuff, the devs on the whole not talking to the community and about their thinking, planning or doing (like your thoughts on the upgrade system it was only because someone pointed it out in a podcast which isn't a source I refer to as 'official' like the forums) and frankly the death of alts with the community as a whole feeling like they're jumping ship with dead queues and players who want elite rewards but don't care if they're too 'insert negative word here' they are.

    That's it in a nutshell.

    Now the sale/bonus zen. Should I spend any kind of money on this when the game is a/ in the state and b/ questionable if it can turn itself around? I keep looking at my specialisation on my alts and think "TRIBBLE this I can just about keep motivated for one character'. This means I'm only really interested in FED/Tac, KDF and Rom and eng/sci characters aren't worth playing for me so why spend any kind of Zen on them? True I've got a lot of what I'd like already and relieved the newest stuff isn't cheaper than the launch discount price (boy would that have $%^$% people off).

    Still there are still things I could get and yes I could use my existing zen or spend dil but it's still using up assets or driving up the exchange which indirectly helps Cryptic I guess.

    So that's where I stand Cryptic, a customer who could and would spend money but how they see the game makes him think should I bother? These are obviously questions I ask myself and probably others asking the same thing and each one will have their own answer.

    I think whatever happens by the end of today I'll be spending less than what I might have I don't know perhaps nothing and wait for Cryptic to get this game in order before investing again.
  • mustrumridcully0mustrumridcully0 Member Posts: 12,963 Arc User
    edited November 2014
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    Additionally, we will be issuing you a new fiancee once every six months.
    This almost semes like a buff to me.
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  • aelfwin1aelfwin1 Member Posts: 2,896 Arc User
    edited November 2014

    I'm torn.

    I'd be a very small purchase away from the Intrepid interior pack. Less than $10.

    I'm also very unhappy with the direction of the game of late and have more or less stopped playing.

    What do you guys think?

    I think about it this way :
    Due to the shenanigans of the past 4 months (R&D systems included) , Cryptic has put the game in a place where I doubt that it will celebrate it's 7th Anniversary (perhaps that's true of it's 6th as well) .

    That being said , and without expecting things to "get better" (why be disappointed if they don't , right ?) -- the question remains how will the purchase add to your enjoyment of what is left for you to enjoy in game .
    Once you have your answer , you'll know what to do .

    I don't have the 10$ issue , but I have player VS player "moral" issue to contend with , as the item I'm planning on picking up is the Galaxy pack ... -- which most likely won't benefit most teams I might queue with .
    So , do I punish other players because I want to fly the Gal-R ?

    Pre DR , I would not have been punishing (almost) anyone ... , as most would not have had to "carry" me .
    Now I would have to put up with that , and I don't feel comfortable with consciously making this choice via this purchase (for which I already have the Zen / Dil) .


    ... and after a 3 hour instability of the Dil market , I also thought that it was a bit too convenient that Zen stopped at EXACTLY 180 , from 159 ...
  • virusdancervirusdancer Member Posts: 18,687 Arc User
    edited November 2014
    janus1975 wrote: »
    My Big Fat STO Wedding?

    I'd bet 2 EC that Cryptic adds the Zen Marriage Licenses from some of the PWE games before they add any of the PvP stuff....
    Dude it's black friday, what were you expecting?

    A livestream with 2 codes for 2000 people....

    ...oh wait, that's your average livestream.
  • carlosbflycarlosbfly Member Posts: 682 Arc User
    edited November 2014
    I wouldn't know. Being Australian and English.

    Well, you've got no excuse now as I live in the UK and they do Black Friday here as well.
  • rahmkota19rahmkota19 Member Posts: 1,929 Arc User
    edited November 2014
    janus1975 wrote: »
    My Big Fat STO Wedding?

    Step 1) Team up with your fiancee
    Step 2) Get to the Shrine on DS9
    Step 3) Press F to marry
  • qziqzaqziqza Member Posts: 1,044 Arc User
    edited November 2014

    A livestream with 2 codes for 2000 people....

    ...oh wait, that's your average livestream.


    Don't forget the in depth discussion about Pizza and the odd Soft Drink plug....
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  • lored2deathlored2death Member Posts: 6 Arc User
    edited November 2014
    As Spock would say "Fascinating".

    Okay Cryptic this is my perspective. I see the game getting worse to put it generally; grind left, right and centre, bugs/broken stuff, the devs on the whole not talking to the community and about their thinking, planning or doing (like your thoughts on the upgrade system it was only because someone pointed it out in a podcast which isn't a source I refer to as 'official' like the forums) and frankly the death of alts with the community as a whole feeling like they're jumping ship with dead queues and players who want elite rewards but don't care if they're too 'insert negative word here' they are.

    That's it in a nutshell.

    Now the sale/bonus zen. Should I spend any kind of money on this when the game is a/ in the state and b/ questionable if it can turn itself around? I keep looking at my specialisation on my alts and think "TRIBBLE this I can just about keep motivated for one character'. This means I'm only really interested in FED/Tac, KDF and Rom and eng/sci characters aren't worth playing for me so why spend any kind of Zen on them? True I've got a lot of what I'd like already and relieved the newest stuff isn't cheaper than the launch discount price (boy would that have $%^$% people off).

    Still there are still things I could get and yes I could use my existing zen or spend dil but it's still using up assets or driving up the exchange which indirectly helps Cryptic I guess.

    So that's where I stand Cryptic, a customer who could and would spend money but how they see the game makes him think should I bother? These are obviously questions I ask myself and probably others asking the same thing and each one will have their own answer.

    I think whatever happens by the end of today I'll be spending less than what I might have I don't know perhaps nothing and wait for Cryptic to get this game in order before investing again.

    I think this captures the sentiment nicely
  • kthangkthang Member Posts: 172 Arc User
    edited November 2014
    aelfwin1 wrote: »
    I think about it this way :
    Due to the shenanigans of the past 4 months (R&D systems included) , Cryptic has put the game in a place where I doubt that it will celebrate it's 7th Anniversary (perhaps that's true of it's 6th as well) .

    That being said , and without expecting things to "get better" (why be disappointed if they don't , right ?) -- the question remains how will the purchase add to your enjoyment of what is left for you to enjoy in game .
    Once you have your answer , you'll know what to do .

    I don't have the 10$ issue , but I have player VS player "moral" issue to contend with , as the item I'm planning on picking up is the Galaxy pack ... -- which most likely won't benefit most teams I might queue with .
    So , do I punish other players because I want to fly the Gal-R ?

    Pre DR , I would not have been punishing (almost) anyone ... , as most would not have had to "carry" me .
    Now I would have to put up with that , and I don't feel comfortable with consciously making this choice via this purchase (for which I already have the Zen / Dil) .


    ... and after a 3 hour instability of the Dil market , I also thought that it was a bit too convenient that Zen stopped at EXACTLY 180 , from 159 ...


    For queuing in the ship you want to fly? Why not. It's a game, and the Gal-X can do better than average. If you want to do the dps race, then that's something other entirely and I ain't playing that game. ;-)


    As for the dil exchange, it happens every time somethings on sale. 'Who' does this? Speculants. Over the years they've amassed tons of dil and zen by trading. buying low and selling high. Supposedly not allowed to do this, right? Yeah.

    What cracks me up is that people run to exchange dil at this rate to buy discounted stuff when they could get the zen cheaper with dil the next week and actually save more or at worst end up paying the same anyway. Shed, tools and all that.
  • virusdancervirusdancer Member Posts: 18,687 Arc User
    edited November 2014
    qziqza wrote: »
    Don't forget the in depth discussion about Pizza and the odd Soft Drink plug....

    Brawndo leads to gooey afterburn...
  • cmdrscarletcmdrscarlet Member Posts: 5,137 Arc User
    edited November 2014
    Desperate? Doubt it. More like following the masses who want discounts on the biggest discount-giving season. Cryptic can only "sell" what they have to offer.

    I'll bet if Cryptic didn't offer a sale there would be a ****storm.
  • shpoksshpoks Member Posts: 6,967 Arc User
    edited November 2014
    Maybe they nerf it by mistake,,,,,,,

    By Kahless' beard, yes, that's what's happening!!! :D

    They've been on a nerfing rampage lately and they got so carried away that they even nerfed the prices!!! :eek: :P
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  • thutmosis85thutmosis85 Member Posts: 2,358 Arc User
    edited November 2014
    Brawndo leads to gooey afterburn...

    ... Water, like out of the toilet ? I like money, though ...
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  • vawlkusvawlkus Member Posts: 348 Arc User
    edited November 2014
    As Spock would say "Fascinating".

    Okay Cryptic this is my perspective. I see the game getting worse to put it generally; grind left, right and centre, bugs/broken stuff, the devs on the whole not talking to the community and about their thinking, planning or doing (like your thoughts on the upgrade system it was only because someone pointed it out in a podcast which isn't a source I refer to as 'official' like the forums) and frankly the death of alts with the community as a whole feeling like they're jumping ship with dead queues and players who want elite rewards but don't care if they're too 'insert negative word here' they are.

    That's it in a nutshell.

    Now the sale/bonus zen. Should I spend any kind of money on this when the game is a/ in the state and b/ questionable if it can turn itself around? I keep looking at my specialisation on my alts and think "TRIBBLE this I can just about keep motivated for one character'. This means I'm only really interested in FED/Tac, KDF and Rom and eng/sci characters aren't worth playing for me so why spend any kind of Zen on them? True I've got a lot of what I'd like already and relieved the newest stuff isn't cheaper than the launch discount price (boy would that have $%^$% people off).

    Still there are still things I could get and yes I could use my existing zen or spend dil but it's still using up assets or driving up the exchange which indirectly helps Cryptic I guess.

    So that's where I stand Cryptic, a customer who could and would spend money but how they see the game makes him think should I bother? These are obviously questions I ask myself and probably others asking the same thing and each one will have their own answer.

    I think whatever happens by the end of today I'll be spending less than what I might have I don't know perhaps nothing and wait for Cryptic to get this game in order before investing again.

    Pretty much this for me as well.

    As for the supposed DOOM, this sale is unusual. Cryptic does usually have a Black Friday sale, but this one is uncharacteristic for two reasons: it's being held at the same time as an in-game event (which could just be coincidence, but is out of the ordinary all the same), and the fact that the sale includes the latest releases, which are less than a couple of weeks old, which Cryptic has NEVER done in it's 4 years to my knowledge.

    I doubt they're desparate, but I do think they're feeling pressure to get people to stay, or to return to the game. Whether that's from corporate pressure, or low sales, I can't say.
  • qjuniorqjunior Member Posts: 2,023 Arc User
    edited November 2014
    meimeitoo wrote: »
    Well, I, for one, thought this was an excellent deal! I bought 24,000 Zen, and a discounted Phantom Escort & keys. Thank you, Cryptic!

    "Thank you dear customer. We will be happy to ignore all or your criticism of the game in the future. Your generous wallet tells us that you are very happy with what we are doing !" :P
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