Cryptic's grabbing desperately for money. I wouldn't spend a dime on this game right now.
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Part of me has, indeed, noticed an usually high number of promotions of late.
On the other hand, I'm thinking this is one of them situations Iconians might refer to as 'Damned if they do, damned if they don't.'
Well actually whenever this isn't the first time they've done something like this. A while back the playerbase was mad about something else so they slammed in a bunch of promotions. In teh aftermath everything was fine whatever caused the outrage was later fixed and life moved on. This is likely a repeat.
I can't remember them ever running a Zen promo AT THE SAME TIME as a store promo in STO.
And I don't think they've included new items in a sale since very early Atari.
I'm torn.
I'd be a very small purchase away from the Intrepid interior pack. Less than $10.
I'm also very unhappy with the direction of the game of late and have more or less stopped playing.
I don't want to reward the current design direction. I also think it's probable that patches and such may eventually swing design back the other way (I can't see the current course being sustainable) and that I'd enjoy my purchase made now at that point.
Its a Friday where once per year our American friends show there thankful for corporate greed. Videos of them showing there love for one another at places like walmart are pretty epic.
I can't remember them ever running a Zen promo AT THE SAME TIME as a store promo in STO.
And I don't think they've included new items in a sale since very early Atari.
I'm torn.
I'd be a very small purchase away from the Intrepid interior pack. Less than $10.
I'm also very unhappy with the direction of the game of late and have more or less stopped playing.
I don't want to reward the current design direction. I also think it's probable that patches and such may eventually swing design back the other way (I can't see the current course being sustainable) and that I'd enjoy my purchase made now at that point.
What do you guys think?
Let me ask you a couple of questions:
If the game is returned to a playable state as as a result of you ending up spending a bit more money, would you be happy?
If you save some money by buying now, but the game never changes direction from its current path, would you be happy?
If the game is returned to a playable state as as a result of you ending up spending a bit more money, would you be happy?
If you save some money by buying now, but the game never changes direction from its current path, would you be happy?
Yes to the first, obviously. There are many uncertainties in that, mind you. One of which is whether witholding money could result in a course change and, if so, how much.
To the second one, I wouldn't be happy but it'd JUST be $10 spent that I was ultimately unhappy with.
I guess one X-factor that could resolve this is whether today is my stipend day. I forget. If it is, it's irrelevant because I wouldn't have to spend anything. I can't remember if it's the 28th, 29th, or 30th or what time of day they hit.
In the last few years, Black Friday has invaded Canada to the point where almost all major Canadian stores have surrendered to it. The sad thing is that it is no longer limited to Black Friday, but can last for a week which defeats the purpose of calling it Black Friday.
Cryptic's grabbing desperately for money. I wouldn't spend a dime on this game right now.
Quite a few other MMOs are running crazy big promotions this whole weekend. DDO has 75% off of their expansions for example. Although this is probably the biggest promotion STO has run, it's still not as big as others. I was even disappointed yesterday when I thought they were only doing a services promotion so I spend my money elsewhere. If anything they're a little late...
Well Im the last one not going after sales and used them enthusiastically with Cryptic the past 3 years.
But at the moment, no thanks. When the game you love to play suddenly lacks fun all those cool shiny toys you could get suddenly feel irrelevant.
At the moment my main fun killers are:
- Rare and only claustrophobic means for spec tree progression in a rate that makes it hardly motivating to continue.
- Not challenging and not teamwork related fail criteria in PvE endgame queues which lead to an annoying game experience when I team up with players at a lower level of experience/capabilities/game progression than I am.
- Empty queue lists due to lack of interest (slim reward vs. risk of fails)
The only thing that keeps me in game are the remaining fleet mates and in game friends. Glad I can make the best of it in the f2p model.
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Perhaps tomorrow we'll get a long rambling incoherent dev post about it.
"While contemplating the Black Friday Sale for Star Trek Online, there was a lot of work that went into creating a sales schema for zen and overall item costs and the requirements of dilithium needed to purchase items. Throughout the creation and testing of this sale, much of the teams attention was focused on whether or not the zen bonus and the items unlocked felt correct. Unfortunately, since the release of Delta Rising, we have discovered some issues with our initial math that have caused some anomalous player facing numbers that we are now addressing in today's store update.
So what we have decided to do is reduce the amount of Zen needed to purchase anything from the Zen store by 50%. This will allow our players to feel like they have been allowed to participate in a large event style sale. However to offset this 50% reduction we will also be dividing all zen purchased by 10. We are confident our math is correct in this matter and will work out to an equal net. "
I'm quite sure something to that effect is already all typed out and just ready to go.
... Or perhaps first The EP will be posting about how he will have to be pulling the zen from the accounts of the exploiters who have already availed themselves of the promo pricing.
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On the other hand, I'm thinking this is one of them situations Iconians might refer to as 'Damned if they do, damned if they don't.'
Well actually whenever this isn't the first time they've done something like this. A while back the playerbase was mad about something else so they slammed in a bunch of promotions. In teh aftermath everything was fine whatever caused the outrage was later fixed and life moved on. This is likely a repeat.
REALLY?!?
How much more confirmation bias can you have? :eek:
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I wouldn't know. Being Australian and English.
then note the post above mine, or google "black Friday"
And I don't think they've included new items in a sale since very early Atari.
I'm torn.
I'd be a very small purchase away from the Intrepid interior pack. Less than $10.
I'm also very unhappy with the direction of the game of late and have more or less stopped playing.
I don't want to reward the current design direction. I also think it's probable that patches and such may eventually swing design back the other way (I can't see the current course being sustainable) and that I'd enjoy my purchase made now at that point.
What do you guys think?
Its a Friday where once per year our American friends show there thankful for corporate greed. Videos of them showing there love for one another at places like walmart are pretty epic.
Let me ask you a couple of questions:
Well, as the Devs said, If it sounds too good to be true, it usually is. :P
well I am UK and English and even I am aware of black Friday and the reason for the sale.
When I think about everything we've been through together,
maybe it's not the destination that matters, maybe it's the journey,
and if that journey takes a little longer,
so we can do something we all believe in,
I can't think of any place I'd rather be or any people I'd rather be with.
Yes to the first, obviously. There are many uncertainties in that, mind you. One of which is whether witholding money could result in a course change and, if so, how much.
To the second one, I wouldn't be happy but it'd JUST be $10 spent that I was ultimately unhappy with.
I guess one X-factor that could resolve this is whether today is my stipend day. I forget. If it is, it's irrelevant because I wouldn't have to spend anything. I can't remember if it's the 28th, 29th, or 30th or what time of day they hit.
I don't think this is a doom sale at all but it does seem like a deeper combo than usual. Maybe a "rough tides" sale.
Quite a few other MMOs are running crazy big promotions this whole weekend. DDO has 75% off of their expansions for example. Although this is probably the biggest promotion STO has run, it's still not as big as others. I was even disappointed yesterday when I thought they were only doing a services promotion so I spend my money elsewhere. If anything they're a little late...
Not a dime from me now. reduce upgrade costs to 1/10th what they are now...get rid of those time gates...i'll consider it
You do yourself a disservice, posting with a distinct lack of awareness of current events like this.
Don't worry, I've not got a clue either...
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Nothing comes even remotely close to tricking them into paying 5 million dil for nothing but notepad copy-pasting, the emperor's new clothes.
If an ACCOUNT ship is 480,000, you now got the whales paying almost 10 times that for empty stats that required ZERO work...
SO, 10 ships bought per character and you didn't have to lift a finger to develop anything.
As far as they DESERVE to not be making money and deserve to get burned you are totally right.
Is it okay to pay them for NOT creating new animations, models and content of course not
But at the moment, no thanks. When the game you love to play suddenly lacks fun all those cool shiny toys you could get suddenly feel irrelevant.
At the moment my main fun killers are:
- Rare and only claustrophobic means for spec tree progression in a rate that makes it hardly motivating to continue.
- Not challenging and not teamwork related fail criteria in PvE endgame queues which lead to an annoying game experience when I team up with players at a lower level of experience/capabilities/game progression than I am.
- Empty queue lists due to lack of interest (slim reward vs. risk of fails)
The only thing that keeps me in game are the remaining fleet mates and in game friends. Glad I can make the best of it in the f2p model.
Looking for a fun PvE fleet? Join us at Omega Combat Division today.
Perhaps tomorrow we'll get a long rambling incoherent dev post about it.
"While contemplating the Black Friday Sale for Star Trek Online, there was a lot of work that went into creating a sales schema for zen and overall item costs and the requirements of dilithium needed to purchase items. Throughout the creation and testing of this sale, much of the teams attention was focused on whether or not the zen bonus and the items unlocked felt correct. Unfortunately, since the release of Delta Rising, we have discovered some issues with our initial math that have caused some anomalous player facing numbers that we are now addressing in today's store update.
So what we have decided to do is reduce the amount of Zen needed to purchase anything from the Zen store by 50%. This will allow our players to feel like they have been allowed to participate in a large event style sale. However to offset this 50% reduction we will also be dividing all zen purchased by 10. We are confident our math is correct in this matter and will work out to an equal net. "
I'm quite sure something to that effect is already all typed out and just ready to go.
... Or perhaps first The EP will be posting about how he will have to be pulling the zen from the accounts of the exploiters who have already availed themselves of the promo pricing.
You guys don't have Internet over there? Wow, what a horrible country :D:P