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revor86revor86 Member Posts: 15 Arc User
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I'm getting kinda sick of how you are treating another portion of your player base, if you don't know what that is let me tell you...



....KDF and ROMULANS.

It's not just me that is noticing this, right after the update zone chat for kdf was going nuts about this how everything is for federation. Did you know there still isnt a science ship for romulans UNLESS you get a ship with lobi. Almost laughable if you think you are showing fairness with the small items you have given kdf/roms. I could list all the items related what fed has vs kdf/roms do have, which the list is god awful big while the just a few items for kdf/roms.

Please treat your other "factions/races" like you do with federation, stop this favoritism.
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  • erei1erei1 Member Posts: 4,081 Arc User
    edited November 2014
    That's not new. Sadly.
    I can't wait for the new fraction to be introduced, so they can finish the Romulan, at least give us a security officer and an academy.


    Anyway, in before someone start mentioning SRO or cloak.
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  • medalionemissarymedalionemissary Member Posts: 612 Arc User
    edited November 2014
    Is the reason behind no pure sci ships for Roms because of their Singularity abilities are already OP as hell as is?
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  • prierinprierin Member Posts: 7 Arc User
    edited November 2014
    revor86 wrote: »
    :mad:

    I'm getting kinda sick of how you are treating another portion of your player base, if you don't know what that is let me tell you...



    ....KDF and ROMULANS.

    It's not just me that is noticing this, right after the update zone chat for kdf was going nuts about this how everything is for federation. Did you know there still isnt a science ship for romulans UNLESS you get a ship with lobi. Almost laughable if you think you are showing fairness with the small items you have given kdf/roms. I could list all the items related what fed has vs kdf/roms do have, which the list is god awful big while the just a few items for kdf/roms.

    Please treat your other "factions/races" like you do with federation, stop this favoritism.


    I stopped playing a lvl 50 KDF for this, primarily. I still play a lvl 60 Rom.

    All I can hypothesize is that the Star Trek universe is set from the POV of the UFP. If it were set from the KDF, they’d be getting all the love. Same for the Romulans. It’s sad (pathetic really) that the game devs essentially give the finger to the other two factions each and every update. It’s kind of like being taken to the prom then dumped for the popular guy/girl.

    Two chocies:

    Go home and cry about it….

    Go ‘Carrie’ all over the place…
    Is the reason behind no pure sci ships for Roms because of their Singularity abilities are already OP as hell as is?

    Please... just stop....
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  • bulvynebulvyne Member Posts: 74 Arc User
    edited November 2014
    Is the reason behind no pure sci ships for Roms because of their Singularity abilities are already OP as hell as is?

    No.

    The reason is, as the OP said, Fed favoritism. I play both sides. The 'favoritism' is obvious.

    If you can't see it, you're blind.
  • warmaker001bwarmaker001b Member Posts: 9,205 Arc User
    edited November 2014
    Is the reason behind no pure sci ships for Roms because of their Singularity abilities are already OP as hell as is?

    The Hanom is a pure Science Vessel.
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  • senatorvreenaksenatorvreenak Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited November 2014
    Favoritism?

    You do realise that all of Star Trek is like 90% all about Starfleet and the Federation right? :rolleyes:
  • nightkennightken Member Posts: 2,824 Arc User
    edited November 2014
    Favoritism?

    You do realise that all of Star Trek is like 90% all about Starfleet and the Federation right? :rolleyes:

    you know this game is supposed to to have 3 factions right?

    if I stop posting it doesn't make you right it. just means I don't have enough rum to continue interacting with you.
  • revor86revor86 Member Posts: 15 Arc User
    edited November 2014
    Favoritism?

    You do realise that all of Star Trek is like 90% all about Starfleet and the Federation right? :rolleyes:

    No kidding... but they allowed other races, regardless how much of the show was about Starfleet if you add more races you should show more courtesy to the rest. Think about it, any other mmo on the market if they focused on one side of the factions people would be in a uproar.
  • sumghaisumghai Member Posts: 1,072 Arc User
    edited November 2014
    Favoritism?

    You do realise that all of Star Trek is like 90% all about Starfleet and the Federation right? :rolleyes:
    nightken wrote: »
    you know this game is supposed to to have 3 factions right?

    You do realise that this game is based on a television and movie franchise, where the primary focus is on a fictional human-centric interstellar exploratory, peacekeeping and humanitarina paramilitary organisation, and as such, would mean there is more reference material and fan interest in this area, right?

    :rolleyes:
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  • revor86revor86 Member Posts: 15 Arc User
    edited November 2014
    sumghai wrote: »
    You do realise that this game is based on a television and movie franchise, where the primary focus is on a fictional human-centric interstellar exploratory, peacekeeping and humanitarina paramilitary organisation, and as such, would mean there is more reference material and fan interest in this area, right?

    :rolleyes:

    You do know there is other references through books and comics right? Not just tv shows. :/
  • warmaker001bwarmaker001b Member Posts: 9,205 Arc User
    edited November 2014
    Favoritism?

    You do realise that all of Star Trek is like 90% all about Starfleet and the Federation right? :rolleyes:

    Your post would make sense.

    If this game was a single-faction game. But it isn't. I know the devs think it's a single-faction game, but technically, the KDF and Roms are there too by Cryptic's own design.
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  • vetteguy904vetteguy904 Member Posts: 3,937 Arc User
    edited November 2014
    nightken wrote: »
    you know this game is supposed to to have 3 factions right?

    Actually, roms never were designed to be a full faction.
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  • vetteguy904vetteguy904 Member Posts: 3,937 Arc User
    edited November 2014
    revor86 wrote: »
    You do know there is other references through books and comics right? Not just tv shows. :/

    And you know books and comics are not canon, right?

    Nor is JJ verse nor TAS
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  • nightkennightken Member Posts: 2,824 Arc User
    edited November 2014
    Actually, roms never were designed to be a full faction.

    still two.

    if I stop posting it doesn't make you right it. just means I don't have enough rum to continue interacting with you.
  • revor86revor86 Member Posts: 15 Arc User
    edited November 2014
    And you know books and comics are not canon, right?

    Nor is JJ verse nor TAS

    You know most of sto isnt canon either but eh /shrug. Your point still isnt working for ya. But nice try.
  • sgtschatzsgtschatz Member Posts: 45 Arc User
    edited November 2014
    I play all the factions and personally I'm glad they don't make more ships. Why it saves me money plus they don't really make any of them much different. So your asking cryptic to rob from you!!:P
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  • msduckmsduck Member Posts: 44 Arc User
    edited November 2014
    yes, but the kdf has three endgame d7 variants where the feds have 0 connies.

    s*ck it feds :D

    (seriously folks, its probably because 90% of their players are feds.)
  • seaofsorrowsseaofsorrows Member Posts: 10,919 Arc User
    edited November 2014
    We're caught in a loop here..

    The Devs don't make more KDF/Romulan stuff because everyone plays Fed.

    Everyone plays Fed because the Devs don't make more KDF/Romulan stuff.


    I tried to play a Klingon, it was like being sentenced to the Prison Colony on Rura Penthe. There was absolutley nothing done for that faction, they are put away and forgotten.

    Romulans have it a little better in some ways, worse then others (C'mon, still only 1 interior for every ship?) But no one is anywhere near what the Feds have.

    The Dev team has to make the first move. Show the other factions some love and players will gravitate to them.
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  • jaguarskxjaguarskx Member Posts: 5,945 Arc User
    edited November 2014
    The Hanom is a pure Science Vessel.

    Wow!!!!

    The Romulan faction has one science ship and you only need to wait until you are level 40 to get it. At what level does a Fed toon have the opportunity to choose his / her 1st science ship?
  • erei1erei1 Member Posts: 4,081 Arc User
    edited November 2014
    Is the reason behind no pure sci ships for Roms because of their Singularity abilities are already OP as hell as is?
    Nice joke, it was very funny ! My plasma shockwave of doom will kill you all ! Well, if you are a torp at less than 5km than me. If I'm lucky.
    Also, I didn't know sci abilities were so OP, they carefully avoided to had anything on top of it.
    Actually, roms never were designed to be a full faction.
    According to the devs, they were. Numerous time they stated they were a true faction, back when everyone was whining about the rom fraction and the fact they weren't the Empire, but allied to the other 2.

    In fact they are not, but officially, they are.
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  • the1tiggletthe1tigglet Member Posts: 1,421 Arc User
    edited November 2014
    Most of it I think is CBS and what they allow to be entered into the game. Really like I play Rom and I love it, but I noticed too as a dual faction player who likes both equally that there is alot more attention for feds and while I enjoy that I too would like it to be more equal in the spirit of the IP.

    I think it's simply a content restriction thing I really do.

    And trust me I am not into making excuses for this management team as you'll see from my other posts.
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  • neoakiraiineoakiraii Member Posts: 7,468 Arc User
    edited November 2014
    I thought this was a Necro thread for a minute because it seems as if I read this somewhere before.


    Edit: OMG I think my spell check is racist.
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  • revor86revor86 Member Posts: 15 Arc User
    edited November 2014
    I'm not looking for kdf and roms to get a bunch of items as fed, but I would like devs to actually acknowledge we exist and the players to care about these two factions. Just a shame they cant give us some to buy as well ;)
  • jtoney3448jtoney3448 Member Posts: 642 Arc User
    edited November 2014
    Its been fed mainly since launch. KDF was an after thought at end of beta. In cryptics defense the shows are about the FEDERATION! And the ships the KDF and Roms have ARE very good ships for the most part.

    Now that said. They are major morons for doing Fed 95% of the time 5% KDF/Rom. They do that then claim the KDF and Rom arent profitable and the playerbase is lacking.... well if you treat them like TRIBBLE thats what they become!

    If you make the factions equal, and treat them equal, the disparity between them in sales is FAR LESS. How long have the KDF begged for a fleet gurumba? since the fleet store was put in.

    Cryptic doesnt know how to maintain their customer base, its all about cycling players out rather then making and maintaining them. Sad cause it makes long time players feel expendable and they stop spending money, new players quickly figure it out and stop spending money.

    It leads to feelings of regret upon purchase of items, which in turn makes people feel their money was a waste and they are very hard to convince to buy something else in the future.

    Cryptic would be better served to release 1 Fed 1 KDF 1 Rom ship at a time, OR even 2 fed ships 1 kdf 1 rom at a time. Instead they release 5+ fed ships on average more then the other 2.

    Shame they cant see what the rest of us do.
  • coupaholiccoupaholic Member Posts: 2,188 Arc User
    edited November 2014
    Look at it like this. The less we have the less chance any of our stuff will break or be useless.

    KDF is light on content yes, but better to have less content that is actually fun than too much content that is dull to play through.

    I'm hearing good things about that T6 Raptor by the way.
  • norobladnoroblad Member Posts: 2,624 Arc User
    edited November 2014
    the situation is bad enough without exaggeration --- and that invalidates your complaint.
    There are rom sci ships. The haanom is locked behind a completed fleet starbase and the dyson is pretty good, costing only c-store / zen.

    The haanom should have a t5u cstore version other than the fleet one or they should have made the t6 DD clone tank a sci ship instead.

    Its a vicious circle. They provide nothing to buy, so nothing gets bought. Then some bigwig points at the numbers and says ppl don't buy kdf and rom stuff stop making it. SO there is nothing to buy.... the sheer number of scimitars out there tells us that ppl will buy rom ships. And I have seen hundreds of the kdf tank t6 ship this month already. Imagine if they let something half decent out what it would do for their sales...

    Instead, they decided that it was urgent to get feds yet another ship and a dance club.

    I hope they really, really enjoy that lifetime sub money they got from me ... because with this sort of treatment, its the last of my money they will see. I will still play, but I am not buying into this garbage--- just to recap DR from a kdf perspective...

    - fed only story about running around helping people with rainbows unicorns and warm fuzzies.
    - 2 fed ships for every kdf and rom ship released
    - fed dance club
    - 2 of the 4 non fed ships are low dps tanks. the other rom ship is not as good as t5u scim.
    - cannon trait is on a tanky cruiser --- pure greed, as no cannon user would ever buy that garbage.
    - autofail group mechanic has reduced desire to play endgame for many players -- everyone is tired of spending time for 0 rewards. This is triply bad for kdf because we had fewer ppl in the Qs to begin with.
  • tehbubbalootehbubbaloo Member Posts: 2,003 Arc User
    edited November 2014
    jtoney3448 wrote: »
    Its been fed mainly since launch. KDF was an after thought at end of beta. In cryptics defense the shows are about the FEDERATION! And the ships the KDF and Roms have ARE very good ships for the most part.

    Now that said. They are major morons for doing Fed 95% of the time 5% KDF/Rom. They do that then claim the KDF and Rom arent profitable and the playerbase is lacking.... well if you treat them like TRIBBLE thats what they become!

    If you make the factions equal, and treat them equal, the disparity between them in sales is FAR LESS. How long have the KDF begged for a fleet gurumba? since the fleet store was put in.

    Cryptic doesnt know how to maintain their customer base, its all about cycling players out rather then making and maintaining them. Sad cause it makes long time players feel expendable and they stop spending money, new players quickly figure it out and stop spending money.

    It leads to feelings of regret upon purchase of items, which in turn makes people feel their money was a waste and they are very hard to convince to buy something else in the future.

    Cryptic would be better served to release 1 Fed 1 KDF 1 Rom ship at a time, OR even 2 fed ships 1 kdf 1 rom at a time. Instead they release 5+ fed ships on average more then the other 2.

    Shame they cant see what the rest of us do.

    kdf was being talked up before beta. it was certainly not an afterthought.
  • shpoksshpoks Member Posts: 6,967 Arc User
    edited November 2014
    And you know books and comics are not canon, right?

    Nor is JJ verse nor TAS

    Actually both JJ-verse and TAS are considered canon.
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  • lianthelialianthelia Member Posts: 7,896 Arc User
    edited November 2014
    Favoritism?

    You do realise that all of Star Trek is like 90% all about Starfleet and the Federation right? :rolleyes:

    Honestly if they weren't going to put any effort into the other factions then why add them in the first place then?
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