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hoshino1
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We have a problem. I want to propose a solution.
The problem is for all KDF side players. I am a KDF side Romulan:
Currently, as of 11/12/2014, I count 75 separate STFs I could queue for.
49 of those 75 have a wait time of "--" and no one is in them currently.
That is basically 2/3 of the STFs that, if I queued for them, I would never get in because there are not enough KDF players to make queues pop.
If the queues don't pop, I can't get very rare crafting materials that only come from particular STFs, do certain content, and it makes it harder to get get other resources.
Do you know I have NEVER done "Mine Trap" because it never pops? I request to be able to play your content! That would be nice. Haha. Seems like a very basic request.
I request a change of game mechanics regarding the way the queue system works for STFs: Just pool all KDF and FED players into the same big pool for queuing. The result will be a mix of KDF and FED player in the same STF on the same team.
The story line at this point in the game would make it very easy to simply say that KDF and FED side are cooperating for now, and engages in "Fleet training exercises" etc. More people in the same pool means more queues popping faster. It would be good for everybody. Even FED side would get a minor benefit.
I can hear objections now: "BUT THAT WOULD RUIN THE FEEL OF THE GAME!" Yeah yeah, look, we need the game to actually work. The story line was already going that way anyway. Something must be done when you have 90% of all online players at any given moment playing FED side, 10% playing KDF side, and most STF queues don't even pop for KDF side. The feel of the game is already ruined because KDF side is simply not sustainable. We need to be able to work together.
I want to be the guy where: you queue up, get into an STF and notice the sound of flies and a filthy yak smell. You look back, and there is this one dirty klink guy in your party. You shudder, and then we get on with the STF. Haha. Don't worry. I am a good party member though.
I was hoping that with the Delta Rising expansion, there would be a big enough influx of players to fix this, but it simply isn't. Maybe we can get this queue system change for 10.5 please?
I also request that Ker'rat queue similarly to the previous suggestion rather than putting KDF against FED side where the teams are inevitably uneven in number of players against each other. One side usually outnumbers the other. If the game simply put you on which ever team needed more players to make the teams even when you enter, it would be much more fun since the sides would always be even to within at least 1 player. Maybe if you enter as a big group, it lets the whole group be on the same side though. That would be uneven though. Maybe it forces you to single queue join? I don't know. That's up to you.
Now I realize that some people will say, "Why not just play a Fed character?" The answer to that is a couple reasons:
I would prefer not to play FED side. When I was first starting, and didn't know anything, the game told me that there were two perfectly viable factions that each have different content. I chose one. Apparently I chose the wrong one, but at the time, I didn't realize it because the game didn't give me full disclosure at the time it made me make the choice. It would have been nice if the game said, "Do you want to be on FED or KDF side? (NOTE: KDF side queues don't pop, so join FED side)," but it didn't tell me that. If it had, I would have joined FED side. Telling me to forsake a gigantic portion of the game content that Cryptic is still creating new content for, and re-roll a whole new toon is not a reasonable work around especially after I have spent money on things like lobi consoles such as the tachiokinetic converter, and bioneural infusion circuiits and other things that I cannot transfer to the new FED character even if it is a Romulan. I like my current character. Why would I want to walk away from a lot of my own work just to create a clone of the same character, and have to do all those reputations again (even though I would have sponsorship)? If they let me transfer my KDF Romulan to being a FED Romulan, I would make that choice too!
Completely forsake all KDF content, and just play FED? How about Cryptic just let KDF players join FED STFs? Just have the system queue them all together. Problem solved.
The problem is for all KDF side players. I am a KDF side Romulan:
Currently, as of 11/12/2014, I count 75 separate STFs I could queue for.
49 of those 75 have a wait time of "--" and no one is in them currently.
That is basically 2/3 of the STFs that, if I queued for them, I would never get in because there are not enough KDF players to make queues pop.
If the queues don't pop, I can't get very rare crafting materials that only come from particular STFs, do certain content, and it makes it harder to get get other resources.
Do you know I have NEVER done "Mine Trap" because it never pops? I request to be able to play your content! That would be nice. Haha. Seems like a very basic request.
I request a change of game mechanics regarding the way the queue system works for STFs: Just pool all KDF and FED players into the same big pool for queuing. The result will be a mix of KDF and FED player in the same STF on the same team.
The story line at this point in the game would make it very easy to simply say that KDF and FED side are cooperating for now, and engages in "Fleet training exercises" etc. More people in the same pool means more queues popping faster. It would be good for everybody. Even FED side would get a minor benefit.
I can hear objections now: "BUT THAT WOULD RUIN THE FEEL OF THE GAME!" Yeah yeah, look, we need the game to actually work. The story line was already going that way anyway. Something must be done when you have 90% of all online players at any given moment playing FED side, 10% playing KDF side, and most STF queues don't even pop for KDF side. The feel of the game is already ruined because KDF side is simply not sustainable. We need to be able to work together.
I want to be the guy where: you queue up, get into an STF and notice the sound of flies and a filthy yak smell. You look back, and there is this one dirty klink guy in your party. You shudder, and then we get on with the STF. Haha. Don't worry. I am a good party member though.
I was hoping that with the Delta Rising expansion, there would be a big enough influx of players to fix this, but it simply isn't. Maybe we can get this queue system change for 10.5 please?
I also request that Ker'rat queue similarly to the previous suggestion rather than putting KDF against FED side where the teams are inevitably uneven in number of players against each other. One side usually outnumbers the other. If the game simply put you on which ever team needed more players to make the teams even when you enter, it would be much more fun since the sides would always be even to within at least 1 player. Maybe if you enter as a big group, it lets the whole group be on the same side though. That would be uneven though. Maybe it forces you to single queue join? I don't know. That's up to you.
Now I realize that some people will say, "Why not just play a Fed character?" The answer to that is a couple reasons:
I would prefer not to play FED side. When I was first starting, and didn't know anything, the game told me that there were two perfectly viable factions that each have different content. I chose one. Apparently I chose the wrong one, but at the time, I didn't realize it because the game didn't give me full disclosure at the time it made me make the choice. It would have been nice if the game said, "Do you want to be on FED or KDF side? (NOTE: KDF side queues don't pop, so join FED side)," but it didn't tell me that. If it had, I would have joined FED side. Telling me to forsake a gigantic portion of the game content that Cryptic is still creating new content for, and re-roll a whole new toon is not a reasonable work around especially after I have spent money on things like lobi consoles such as the tachiokinetic converter, and bioneural infusion circuiits and other things that I cannot transfer to the new FED character even if it is a Romulan. I like my current character. Why would I want to walk away from a lot of my own work just to create a clone of the same character, and have to do all those reputations again (even though I would have sponsorship)? If they let me transfer my KDF Romulan to being a FED Romulan, I would make that choice too!
Completely forsake all KDF content, and just play FED? How about Cryptic just let KDF players join FED STFs? Just have the system queue them all together. Problem solved.
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anyways most are already mixed, i wish the ones that were mixed were not. just play some pug missions 8 of 9 ( 36 runs same mission 18 fails) fails is because of a feddy bear . now you as a romulan already have no pride being a refugee and all so we can expect you an admitted romulan with a federation avatar to come into the KDF forums and try to break us down even further with your propaganda.
i jsut hope what few true warriors we have left do not fall for it.
the problem is the game has taken everything that made kdf unique and given it to the feds.
we have something they think is OP they cry they get it period. until that changes the kdf ranks are going to continue to spiral downward. Because unless your a diehard KDF person you have no reason to play the kdf because any thing here and a whole lot more can be had fed side. and fed rommy LOL they are the new masters of the universe.
and it is for the few simple truths listed above that i have become even more radical in pushing for anythign that promotes anti federation ideas. and pro Klignon actions.
Klingon culture is all the KDF has left and thats only because the feds do not want that.
biggest mistake the game made was ending the war. sure we could be fighting the same enemy and each other makes for a better game. but they wanted to take the lazy way and only have to work one mission instead of two the way it used to be. the war should have escalated not gone into a cease fire. all faction c-store consoles and ships shoudl have stayed with the faction. even after complaints and assurances from devs that c-store consoles wouldn't be in lock boxes any more what happens next lock box yup your guessed it.
we hear the if you dont like this or dont like that dont play it argument all the time. but when the kdf tries it they wont listen. we plead with devs please dont please dont and what happens next update feds get it anyways.
we all knew that the phleshbek thing was just a test to giving all raiding abilities when it had been announced kdf BoPs would get it to help make them viable. well that didn't work because now any and every body working the spec tree can get it even on a barge.
so no your idea is of the sort that has already brought the EMPIRE to this pitiful state.
and for those few that think the empire is stronger than ever now just look at the ques.
think back prior to LoR when any que even ground would PoP . all these cross faction and merging has killed us.
its already cross faction mission..
right now dead ques are not completely limited to KDF its a reward vrs investment issue.
you i believe are a troll and i have taken the bait and for that i am sorry to the rest of you. so please go away you got a bite i swallowed it hook line and sinker. have your laugh
it annoys me to no end as well.
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I know. Makes me sad too, because Mine Trap was lots of fun to play when LoR was first released and everyone was still grinding out their Romulan rep tree.
We won the war against the Feds and they sue for peace... and from Archanis to Ker'rat we toke what is ours, and the Federation recognize this... even though we are at a TRUCE not a real peace... we have the right to defend our space like the Ker'rat system from invading Feds that try to claim what is not theirs.
So pretty much being bored after 30 minutes to an hour of waiting for nothing I just log out for the day and play something else.
Hey, nobody won the recent Fed-Klingon War, but in the end, the Feds *did* admit they ****ed it all up when the Klingons were right about Species 8472 Infiltration.
I mean, after a Starfleet ADMIRAL exposed herself as an Undine infiltrator (willingly I might add, so that she could say, "F-You, you dumbasses, I'll smack you around before I leave"), the Federation went about business like nothing happened
Federation Leadership: "Wait... why did we shatter an alliance we had for decades and won the Dominion War with, then go to war with the Klingons again?"
Waiting 6 mins for Colony (that takes 6 mins or less to complete) is not acceptable.
Same for many many of the other Qs.
I loved Breaking the Planet, but it never runs anymore, same with Mine Trap.
What needs to be done is either:
1. Scale them to a per player difficulty and reward system. Like, One player = this many NPCs, Time, Rewards, then multiply to how many players join. So large PvEs like SB24, Mine Trap, BtP, etc could scale down to at least 5 players, then scale up from there.
2. Allow Solo Qs. (I'd hate to see that, but...) Look at Guild Wars (Not GW2) they introduced a Henchmen system to allow players to still do content even with a diminishing player base.
If PvE Q's would allow Friendly NPC "filler" players to fill the required player numbers to start the event. Perhaps prompt the PvE to say after you click Join, Wait for other players, or Solo with Friendly NPCs.
I mean I know it's an MMO, but finding people to play the same stuff I want to play is hard.
I should not be punished (as in not being able to play X) because others don't want to.
The content is there, I want to do X content, but can't because others don't, so I don't get to play it at all.
I mostly play STO with just my wife, so we do as much as we can together, but seeing most of the story content either not working correctly when in a team, or you just can't do the mission at all because it's solo only, I don't see this as being to far of a request.
Seems STO is going more towards solo play every episode anyway, and the player base may shrink even more where they will have to act to keep content playable.
Just my 2 cents.