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Yup! Cryptic even ruined Mirror Invasion Event too. :(

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  • meimeitoomeimeitoo Member Posts: 12,594 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    mhirtesc wrote: »
    As soon as the station drops down to 0% (which is almost IMPOSSIBLE to prevent), the match ends, you don't get your Multidimensional Transporter thingie, and you can't go back in for another 30 minutes to try again.

    Thanks for ruining another fun thing there, Cryptic!

    Sigh. Okay, just did it on Normal then, cuz I won't be screwed out of my transporter thingies cuz some noobs can't close rifts.

    But it's way too easy on Normal. And I didn't keep count, but the XP payout was if not 0, then negative (rather befitting a Mirror Universe, in that sense).

    And then to think, as others pointed out already, that Mirror Event used to be the primo place to get XP. What happened?! :(
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  • daan2006daan2006 Member Posts: 5,346 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    patrickngo wrote: »
    Guys! stop it, seriously. This ain't the place for that, it's what we've got zone chat in ESD for.

    this^^^^^^^^
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    macronius wrote: »
    This! Their ability to outdo their own failures is quite impressive. If only this power could be harnessed for good.
  • graysockgraysock Member Posts: 172 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    meimeitoo wrote: »
    Sigh. Okay, just did it on Normal then, cuz I won't be screwed out of my transporter thingies cuz some noobs can't close rifts.

    But it's way too easy on Normal. And I didn't keep count, but the XP payout was if not 0, then negative (rather befitting a Mirror Universe, in that sense).

    And then to think, as others pointed out already, that Mirror Event used to be the primo place to get XP. What happened?! :(

    The problem, as usual is HP sponges, you cant kill the frigates fast enough before the respawn from the rift when you have less then 20-25k dps. (frigates have 135k hp)

    Not to mention in the beginning a lot more rifts spawn then on normal, which means you can easly get overwhelmed.

    In short, TRIBBLE advance, its the same old overarching theme on DR that everything is hp sponge and dps is king.
  • reginamala78reginamala78 Member Posts: 4,593 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    I think you really really have to have the team at this point. Two cruisers pulling aggro to leave two scis undisturbed for closing, then something fast running around the edges for the power stations.

    Sheesh, remember when we used to be able to pug stuff?
  • johngazmanjohngazman Member Posts: 2,826 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    meimeitoo wrote: »
    And then to think, as others pointed out already, that Mirror Event used to be the primo place to get XP. What happened?! :(

    Cryptic happened.

    And fyi, no idea why I got lumped in with the ESD-chat guys - I could not give a thrupenny bit about ESD-esque chat.
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  • kylanthkylanth Member Posts: 22 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    and then proceeded to set up a pure socialist society.

    Hardly. Until matter replicators currency was still in common use. Hell even WITH them it was still being used. How else do you explain TOS having Romulan Ale onboard the enterpise? Did Kirk just ask a romulan for it and get it for free?

    Or how about DS9? How do you explain the vendors on the station? They have to make goods, sell them for profit and then use those profits to make more goods etc.

    Nice try though.

    And mhirtesc, you started the name calling in this thread when you called shadowwraith77 a "teabagger". Who is the jerk here? And then you continued quite dramatically.
    mhirtesc wrote: »
    And yet it's only me that you go after.

    I'll just say this: if you're dissing Obama every time you open your mouth then you're the Koch Brothers' biznatch and you're doing their bidding to ruin this country for their profits, whether you know it or not. I may not love Obama, but I loathe the Kochs!

    Right now I'm seeing a lot of people having "Battered Girlfriend Syndrome" and they're going to vote in more of the same republicans that are responsible for crashing the economy in 2007 that cost a lot of people their jobs and their homes, including mine. You guys picked the wrong person to get teabaggy with.

    And calling them teabaggers is what they are. I make no apologies for it. Hell, they should be called worse.

    And who is full of hate? Time for you to look in a mirror I think.
  • adorenkoadorenko Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    mhirtesc wrote: »
    As soon as the station drops down to 0% (which is almost IMPOSSIBLE to prevent), the match ends, you don't get your Multidimensional Transporter thingie, and you can't go back in for another 30 minutes to try again.

    Thanks for ruining another fun thing there, Cryptic!

    even on normal?
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  • rmy1081rmy1081 Member Posts: 2,840 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    adorenko wrote: »
    even on normal?

    no, not on normal. normal is super easy and no fail. Honestly, elite was hard last event. I wouldn't expect the new advanced to be any better. Although last event I could do elite with fleet mates, I ended up pugging normals just to fininsh the event grind.
  • meimeitoomeimeitoo Member Posts: 12,594 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    adorenko wrote: »
    even on normal?

    No. On Normal it's all too easy. Utterly boring, even.

    As to the poster above me, I wouldn't go so far as to say it's 'No fail', though. :P But you can't fail the mission at least, yeah.
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  • daan2006daan2006 Member Posts: 5,346 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    now i think ppl trying to get this thread closed on purpose
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    macronius wrote: »
    This! Their ability to outdo their own failures is quite impressive. If only this power could be harnessed for good.
  • ironmakoironmako Member Posts: 770 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    Yeah but the MTDs (Event marks) which get dropped only happen once a day, so it means we will all be doing the event for at least the next fortnight...
  • cincyman39cincyman39 Member Posts: 166 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    Somebody else may have started it, but you helped to keep it rolling.


    And throwing around vulgar, childish insults like "teabagger" doesn't help your "cause" any in the eyes of rational people.


    I despise Barack Hussein Obama for the same reason I despise all politicians, even those who are supposedly of the same ideological camp as myself: They are all two-faced, self-serving liars who trample on the Constitution to further their own political careers. The same Constitution I swore to defend and protect during my time in the military and in public service.


    Obama is no different. If you think he's great because you think he made the world better, that's your right. But don't insult the rest of us that hasn't consumed the Kool-Aid served up by the politicos and Big Media. Some of us are old enough to know better.



    Preech it my friend I tend to stay away from the politics talk. Myself Im not involved in either party when that time comes to vote I simply vote for the party that I feel will lie to me the least.
  • meimeitoomeimeitoo Member Posts: 12,594 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    mhirtesc wrote: »
    Well, take it up with the jerk who first started the whole thing. You think I'm going to sit there and be quiet while a teabagger struts in and brings his trash talk with him?

    I don't expect anything from you -- that's a mod's job. But I am a little surprised, yes, that you allow yourself to be baited so easily. As the person I quoted in my sig would say, just SHAKE IT OFF! :)
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  • pepper8892pepper8892 Member Posts: 13 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    Cryptic has manage to take the fun completely out of this game. They must not the the fact that people play the game to have fun, and not for the high dps. I seriously am thinking of finding something else to do with my time.
    Makes you wonder of the 300k people that play it, (300k based on a forum post) why only a couple of hundred are doing stf's at any given time. All that said, thanks cryptic, you really know how to mess things up.
  • orangeitisorangeitis Member Posts: 5,222 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    mhirtesc wrote: »
    As soon as the station drops down to 0% (which is almost IMPOSSIBLE to prevent), the match ends, you don't get your Multidimensional Transporter thingie, and you can't go back in for another 30 minutes to try again.

    Thanks for ruining another fun thing there, Cryptic!
    Step it up, get a competent team, and do your best. No excuses. It's not the devs' fault you failed.
  • johnluckpicartjohnluckpicart Member Posts: 68 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    Advanced is ridiculous with the new 'improved' NPC-experience. Try playing your missions before they go live, Cryptic. Please. It's taking the fun out of the simplest things over and over again.

    Anyhow, normal is ridiculously easy. Yay for that, I guess.
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  • mhirtescmhirtesc Member Posts: 581 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    meimeitoo wrote: »
    I don't expect anything from you -- that's a mod's job. But I am a little surprised, yes, that you allow yourself to be baited so easily. As the person I quoted in my sig would say, just SHAKE IT OFF! :)


    Maybe it's because it's coming up to the 22nd anniversary of my mother's murder from lack of "Obamacare" that makes me extra-sensitive to seeing teabagger swaggering.
  • sheldonlcoopersheldonlcooper Member Posts: 4,042 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    kylanth wrote: »
    Hardly. Until matter replicators currency was still in common use. Hell even WITH them it was still being used. How else do you explain TOS having Romulan Ale onboard the enterpise? Did Kirk just ask a romulan for it and get it for free?

    Or how about DS9? How do you explain the vendors on the station? They have to make goods, sell them for profit and then use those profits to make more goods etc.

    Nice try though.

    And mhirtesc, you started the name calling in this thread when you called shadowwraith77 a "teabagger". Who is the jerk here? And then you continued quite dramatically.



    And who is full of hate? Time for you to look in a mirror I think.

    go crawl back into your little hate group and post on there. It hurts to know that the Trek universe is a pure communism doesn't it. I know it hurts you bad :(
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  • nevawinnanevawinna Member Posts: 281 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    Two serious issues with mirror invasion: for something to do daily for three weeks it takes far too long if you have several characters. And why on earth can't you choose delta marks as a reward? That's the only marks 90% of the players need at the moment.
  • graysockgraysock Member Posts: 172 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    Advanced is ridiculous with the new 'improved' NPC-experience. Try playing your missions before they go live, Cryptic. Please. It's taking the fun out of the simplest things over and over again.

    Anyhow, normal is ridiculously easy. Yay for that, I guess.

    There is no middle ground, which is quite funny since advance should have been exactly that, a middle ground between elite and normal.
  • askrayaskray Member Posts: 3,329 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    K folks, lets stop with the political conversation as I've already wiped out a bunch of posts on this thread.
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  • gaevsmangaevsman Member Posts: 3,190 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    Just finished normal with pugs, and my upgraded Dyson Destroyer.. not fully optimized yet... and we win... it's not difficult at all in normal... and CC on advanced, same setup, pugs... we win again... don't quite get your post :/
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  • johnluckpicartjohnluckpicart Member Posts: 68 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    gaevsman wrote: »
    Just finished normal with pugs, and my upgraded Dyson Destroyer.. not fully optimized yet... and we win... it's not difficult at all in normal... and CC on advanced, same setup, pugs... we win again... don't quite get your post :/

    Try Mirror Invasion Advanced instead of CC Advanced (totally different mission), maybe you'll see then ^^
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  • shadowwraith77shadowwraith77 Member Posts: 6,395 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    askray wrote: »
    K folks, lets stop with the political conversation as I've already wiped out a bunch of posts on this thread.

    If mine seem offensive, than I apologize, if some were removed, than again sorry they came of as so.

    Either way, TY for modding.
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  • leethorogoodleethorogood Member Posts: 302 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    Do we even need the Advanced and Elite public queues any more? Afterall they aren't puggable by the majority if at all. Cryptic should just move Advanced and Elite to the private queues where they now belong. :mad:
  • ceekayzeroceekayzero Member Posts: 411 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    orangeitis wrote: »
    Step it up, get a competent team, and do your best. No excuses. It's not the devs' fault you failed.

    True, but if the initial impressions are sufficiently negative that someone browsing the forums at work decides not to play, I think that there might be some rework necessary.
  • sheldonlcoopersheldonlcooper Member Posts: 4,042 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    Do we even need the Advanced and Elite public queues any more? Afterall they aren't puggable by the majority if at all. Cryptic should just move Advanced and Elite to the private queues where they now belong. :mad:

    Someone has a pipe dream or sales goal and they're not giving up on it. I may have to give in and join some sort of channel :(
    because normal is trivial and advanced is a nogo for most missions.
    This is killing or at least changing the nature of endgame activities.
    I was hopeful we would get relief before people started to quit, but I'm losing that hope.
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  • gavinrunebladegavinruneblade Member Posts: 3,894 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    go crawl back into your little hate group and post on there. It hurts to know that the Trek universe is a pure communism doesn't it. I know it hurts you bad :(

    I dunno if I'd call it a pure communism. They seem to have found a best of both worlds middle ground where everyone has what they need, but currency and economics still play a role, especially for trade.

    The article at memory alpha on money has some very interesting bits in the background where they say gene didn't want any currency at all, but then it showed up a few times anyway (Beverly Crusher charging a bolt of cloth to her account on enterprise in encounter at farpoint, plus many times in TOS where things were sold to/from harry Mudd and others, even kirk talking about selling his house in his scene with Picard).

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  • strykewolf67strykewolf67 Member Posts: 1 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    Seemed to work fine. Of course, I did them on normal since I like maintaining a somewhat calm state of mind. :P
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  • tilarium1979tilarium1979 Member Posts: 567 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    Yeah, popped in with my main, got our butts kicked while doing the advanced, 10 fleet marks for my troubles. Said TRIBBLE it and will be doing it the next few weeks with all my characters on the normal version.
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