PLAYERS: Come and see the violence inherent in the system!!
CRYPTIC: Bloody peasant!
PLAYERS: Oh, what a giveaway! Did you hear that? Did you hear that, eh? That's what I'm on about! Did you see him repressing me? You saw him, didn't you?
This is a reasonable assumption however considering they plainly stated that they had been made aware of the issue only after launch does still suggest that they were not paying attention to the bug reports of people testing the product before launch. If you are right and and they had higher priorities that prevented them from even taking a quick look at there testers feedback that would imply that quality control is a very low priority. Something else that supports this theory is how quickly they fixed the problem after the time they claimed to be made aware of it.
If it was that easy to fix don't you think they would have done so before launch if they had been paying attention to tester feedback considering how heavily this was reported.
The only explanations that make sense is they dont pay attention to the test servers or they are lazy
Not to try and argue but, the simple fact that there are no GM's, clearly shows how much they probably pay attention to the tons of reports coming in.
you assume your high horse stance will get you anywhere.
it just makes you look weird, slowpoke.
everyone not telling his "getting punished" story in this thread is off topic, btw.
Good job his high horse has room for 2 aint it - as I did 1 full TD patrol run (all in Japori as normal) and gained 2 levels (50 - 52).
My first reaction was a simple one, I said to my friends "This cannot be right, 2 levels in 1 patrol mission - it's got to be a mistake".
I thought, I'll hang back a few days, just in case there is a problem.
My friends and I went to play another MMO for 2 days, what did we come back to; ......
TA DA !!!!!
That is how an H_O_N_E_S_T player plays the game. It's called trust / faith / common sense.
shadowwraith77 budge over, I'm jumping up on that there moral horse with you, hope the saddle is big enough, I'm no small fry
And Cryptic knows the psychological factors at play, in particular the individual players' intentions and in-depth psychological profiles... by taking a bunch of statistics, reverting to a mean average, and choosing an arbitrary cutoff point.
Yeah, of course they do.
Yes and, that is why we invent casinos, because we know there will be those who just cannot resist the urge to gamble, despite how astronomical the odds may be against them.
The diff setting by itself is not the issue nor, is the fact that people were teaming up and, neither was the fact they were level matching the lowest player.
What was the issue is, that player(s) knew the enemy lvl did not surpass lvl50 and, that they took advantage of this issue.
Than you have those who were aware this was an issue, along with the SP's being handed out were a bit too high, yet many simply went right ahead and, like I said stuck their hands in the cookie jar so to speak, without ever being told they had permission to do so.
I am not completely against what you people are saying, about the punishment being a bit overboard but, I am against people trying to act like they did absolutely nothing!
I agree with the latter (those who knew vs those who did not) but "the enemy lvl did not surpass lvl50" I have to call you out on... I was in at lvl 57, matched to a lvl 55, and the enemy NCPS came up at max as -2. Now that means they were lvl 53.
If I go in as a 60 and they come up as -10 then yes, I agree... but that wasn't the case. At least, not with a group matched to low to mid 50's.
That is what the supposed to is for. It is the devs job to keep the game going as long as possible and make sure that players are willing to spend cash on the game. Some decisions are good for the game and some are the bad, but the devs are human so liable to make mistakes. As I said before hindsight is 20/20 so what is a bad decision is not always known until it is too late.
you looked at the queues lately? wtf you on about?
theyre hellbent on killing the game.
they knew the issues, they just gave a damn.
dedicated grinders just make such a better scapegoat than executive producers or lazyass dev teams, huh?
That is how an H_O_N_E_S_T player plays the game. It's called trust / faith / common sense.
I have come up with a saying that I use far too much. Common sense is not common. Just because you use common sense doesn't mean that the majority will use common sense.
Yes and, that is why we invent casinos, because we know there will be those who just cannot resist the urge to gamble, despite how astronomical the odds may be against them.
Ha, imagine a casino arguing in court, "Your Honor, we know that the person intended to cheat, because when they sat down at a machine and it paid out a jackpot because we accidentally had the wrong payout table loaded on it, that was way more than the average person gets paid out on our machines and by that we know... that person was cheating!"
Good job his high horse has room for 2 aint it - as I did 1 full TD patrol run (all in Japori as normal) and gained 2 levels (50 - 52).
My first reaction was a simple one, I said to my friends "This cannot be right, 2 levels in 1 patrol mission - it's got to be a mistake".
I thought, I'll hang back a few days, just in case there is a problem.
My friends and I went to play another MMO for 2 days, what did we come back to; ......
TA DA !!!!!
That is how an H_O_N_E_S_T player plays the game. It's called trust / faith / common sense.
shadowwraith77 budge over, I'm jumping up on that there moral horse with you, hope the saddle is big enough, I'm no small fry
no thats not honest, its casual.
i could get more in a two man team in argala. which apparently scaled right.
I have come up with a saying that I use far too much. Common sense is not common. Just because you use common sense doesn't mean that the majority will use common sense.
Ironically, common sense is the least common of all our senses.
Good job his high horse has room for 2 aint it - as I did 1 full TD patrol run (all in Japori as normal) and gained 2 levels (50 - 52).
My first reaction was a simple one, I said to my friends "This cannot be right, 2 levels in 1 patrol mission - it's got to be a mistake".
I thought, I'll hang back a few days, just in case there is a problem.
My friends and I went to play another MMO for 2 days, what did we come back to; ......
TA DA !!!!!
That is how an H_O_N_E_S_T player plays the game. It's called trust / faith / common sense.
shadowwraith77 budge over, I'm jumping up on that there moral horse with you, hope the saddle is big enough, I'm no small fry
sadly the people who did the right thing when they noticed these issues are the bad guys here which I find odd anyhow its fixed now .. so its safe
I have found this issue has had one positive side effect. Anyone logging into the game and starts ranting about these issues gets immediatly put on ignore so I feel as if i have a way to eliminate the chance of accidently grouping with someone who potentially is probably not someone I would want to spend much time ingame with...... anyhow uh for what its worth thanks for fessing up and saying that you saw the issue and ran away (I was beginning to feel like i was the only one ^^)
you looked at the queues lately? wtf you on about?
theyre hellbent on killing the game.
they knew the issues, they just gave a damn.
dedicated grinders just make such a better scapegoat than executive producers or lazyass dev teams, huh?
How is it anyone else fault but your own, if you play a game for what you think it should be as opposed to playing it for what it actually is !?!?!?!?
If you don't like games that have long drawn out grinds with pay to win (or pay to ease the pain) systems in.... then don't blame the Devs for making it - it is YOUR fault you play it.
No one from Cryptic is standing there forcing you to login to the game (or the forums). No one is holding your wallet at gun point.
If you are playing with the idea that "it will get better" bouncing around your head.... news flash, the basic game, the core game play - HAS NOT CHANGED IN 4 YEARS.
All that happens, as with any MMO now, is they find new ways to drag it out, so you pay up to lessen the grind.
you looked at the queues lately? wtf you on about?
theyre hellbent on killing the game.
they knew the issues, they just gave a damn.
dedicated grinders just make such a better scapegoat than executive producers or lazyass dev teams, huh?
Where did I mention that I was talking about STO devs? I was talking about the role that all devs in all MMOs should have not just STO.
Face it. You are playing Cryptic's game so they make the rules. If someone breaks the rules, then they are within their rights to punish someone. The punishment for this exploit seems to be minor compared to their punishment to some other exploits. Look up Caturday on Google. That exploit had numerous accounts being permabanned.
there wasnt anything else to do.
it either was solo grinding argala, or pug what was there to pug, tau dewa.
i tried to enjoy delta rising with the dead queues it brought.
and no, i never even thought of it being a exploit, theres been better ways to get xp anytime.
i just wanted to team up.
yeah, you believe their lies cause its a convenient excuse for you, youre also are proud of being not relevant to cryptic at all.
the "cheating scum 250" been more important than:
· people not able to start client
· people crashing on loading
· tray resetting itself
· romulans/remans not being abled to train boffs
· heck, even that bull**** hierarchy boff being customizable is a greater issue than anything mentioned before.
not that the fix will include a way for kdf aligned players to get that boff again. we can enjoy our feddie fattie.
who got the attention?
the people who tried to still have fun with the game when queues and kerrat died.
I think a few people need to re-read the statement and the replies, XP was 5 times not 17. the 17 being banded around was from a very skilled player who said that he/she was doing 17x more dps than the average player and after watching them solo ISE with 8 mins left on the timer I believe them, they even make korfez look simple https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MLAREkgy4h4&feature=youtu.be
It is nice to see how the divide and conquer I talked about in my post on another thread is working so well.......
As for an actual story related to this. I actually did use the leveling patrols a bit. I wasnt aware of the whole enemy levels not correct thing or getting more xp from patrols I just came online a few times, saw my flleet mates messing around in Tau Dewa patrols and decided I would rather join them and shoot up some mobs then play solo missions. Before I knew it I was 60 with about 25 Spec points so about 75 really and I had mastered all the delta ships.
Next day I check the forums and see them on fire about heavy handed punishments. I jump on the game to check my Speck points and found....... They were all there right where I left them. Later the same day my girlfriend asks to use the computer so I let her on and despite the fact that she had only beeing playing episode missions solo on normal (which I know for a fact because I was sat next to her helping her out for the majority of it) and gotten to about 70. 10 of her spec points were gone.
I agree with the latter (those who knew vs those who did not) but "the enemy lvl did not surpass lvl50" I have to call you out on... I was in at lvl 57, matched to a lvl 55, and the enemy NCPS came up at max as -2. Now that means they were lvl 53.
If I go in as a 60 and they come up as -10 then yes, I agree... but that wasn't the case. At least, not with a group matched to low to mid 50's.
The video I seen depicted on youtube, showed player's matching a lvl53 character.
This was with player's ranging from lvl53-56, yet the enemy indicator clearly showed a -3 based of the lowest lvl player being matched, therefore the enemies were running at lvl50!
Ha, imagine a casino arguing in court, "Your Honor, we know that the person intended to cheat, because when they sat down at a machine and it paid out a jackpot because we accidentally had the wrong payout table loaded on it, that was way more than the average person gets paid out on our machines and by that we know... that person was cheating!"
Yes, they could try to argue that but, how good would their odds be at winning such a case?
Casinos do monitor slots, they also monitor all the games there and, this is why they deemed it ok in blackjack, that card counting is ok by an individual but, with other's helping or, using a machine of any sort to aid you, is considered cheating.
Card counting is not illegal under federal, state, and local laws in the United States as long as no external card counting device or person assists the player in counting cards. Casinos object to the practice, and try to prevent it,[22] banning players believed to be counters. In their pursuit to identify card counters, casinos sometimes misidentify and ban players suspected of counting cards even if they do not.[23]
Atlantic City casinos in the State of New Jersey are forbidden from barring card counters as a result of a New Jersey Supreme Court decision. In 1979 Ken Uston, a Blackjack Hall of Fame inductee, filed a lawsuit against an Atlantic City casino, claiming that casinos did not have the right to ban skilled players. The New Jersey Supreme Court agreed,[24] ruling that "the state's control of Atlantic City's casinos is so complete that only the New Jersey Casino Control Commission has the power to make rules to exclude skillful players." The Commission has made no regulation on card counting, so that Atlantic City casinos are not allowed to ban card counters. Being unable to ban counters even if detected, Atlantic City casinos increased countermeasures
I think a few people need to re-read the statement and the replies, XP was 5 times not 17. the 17 being banded around was from a very skilled player who said that he/she was doing 17x more dps than the average player and after watching them solo ISE with 8 mins left on the timer I believe them, they even make korfez look simple https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MLAREkgy4h4&feature=youtu.be
It is nice to see how the divide and conquer I talked about in my post on another thread is working so well.......
you been on point with that statement. enjoyed reading that.
I think a few people need to re-read the statement and the replies, XP was 5 times not 17. the 17 being banded around was from a very skilled player who said that he/she was doing 17x more dps than the average player and after watching them solo ISE with 8 mins left on the timer I believe them, they even make korfez look simple https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MLAREkgy4h4&feature=youtu.be
It is nice to see how the divide and conquer I talked about in my post on another thread is working so well.......
The investigation uncovered several different bugs in the game that were combining to allow players to level at approximately 17x the rate that players were leveling anywhere else in the game. This was definitely not intended behavior. Fixes for the various bugs went live with the update on Thursday morning, and we opened up the blocked maps.
Well, unless the EP is your "very skilled player".... you've read it wrong.
The video I seen depicted on youtube, showed player's matching a lvl53 character.
This was with player's ranging from lvl53-56, yet the enemy indicator clearly showed a -3 based of the lowest lvl player being matched, therefore the enemies were running at lvl50!
Maybe I am wrong in my recollection, but I remember distinctively looking at the -2 lvls on the Japori NPCs then looking to my level: 57 (55).
there wasnt anything else to do.
it either was solo grinding argala, or pug what was there to pug, tau dewa.
i tried to enjoy delta rising with the dead queues it brought.
and no, i never even thought of it being a exploit, theres been better ways to get xp anytime.
i just wanted to team up.
yeah, you believe their lies cause its a convenient excuse for you, youre also are proud of being not relevant to cryptic at all.
the "cheating scum 250" been more important than:
· people not able to start client
· people crashing on loading
· tray resetting itself
· romulans/remans not being abled to train boffs
· heck, even that bull**** hierarchy boff being customizable is a greater issue than anything mentioned before.
not that the fix will include a way for kdf aligned players to get that boff again. we can enjoy our feddie fattie.
who got the attention?
the people who tried to still have fun with the game when queues and kerrat died.
The queues were not dead, I have done only normal pug queues and, I am sitting at lvl54.
And this is by casually playing, not trying to power level by any means.
see, didnt call you clown cohort member slowpoke for no reason.
seriously get a grip, youre not as dedicated as you think you are.
your opinion and playstyle is irrelevant to cryptics decisions.
my playstyle apparently isnt.
I was completely off topic on every post - naughty me. So, just so I can with good conscience say I responded to this thread properly.
The OP wants the other 249 people to share share stories over this current situation. Well, please, allow me to point you to the Perfect World Entertainment Community Rules and Policies;
"Posting Cheats, Hacks, Trojan Horses, or Malicious Programs
You may not create posts and/or private messages that allude to, contain language, comments, references, links, symbols, terms and/or imagery about and/or promote and/or otherwise support, in any manner whether directly or indirectly, cheats, hacks, cracks and/or malicious viruses/programs (e.g., keyloggers, Trojan horses, websites or files that take control of another person's computer, etc.)."
Sorry, but talking about your exploits, exploiting. Would be classed as promoting and supporting cheaters, not really a wise thing to do on the message boards of the company who own the game.
You may want to move that conversation over to /v/
bull****. noone was exploiting anything. even the japori lockdown was useless since they only punished a random fraction of the playerbase, some of them not even teamed in japori, or even been close to.
they called us "dirty cheating scum" to make you baddies feel better.
and they nerfed exp to make everyone feel like you, congratulations.
but clown cohort drags out any rubbish to prove their point it seems.
good that you make their plot to cover their trails so easy.
its not like they punished people for "exploiting" bugs cryptic knew about for weeks, huh?
It must be a very pitiful person to take pleasure in other people's misery.
Every developer apologist I've seen without exception did not level in japori.
Because no one told them about it since no one talks to them.
I call them hall monitors, a woman scorn or benedict arnolds, they are hybrids of all 3, and if you notice what gives them away every last single time, they say the game is perfect and there is nothing to complain about but they are the most negative, bitter and petty person, and no one complains more than them.
That's how you can spot a body snatcher who had his vessel taken over by resentfulness towards people.
We've been down the road before of how their behaviour damages the game but what hasn't been discussed nearly as much is how they only post to troll because they actually get off on other people feeling just a small version of their pain.
I've come to believe it's actually not nearly as much about being the teacher's pet for attention as it is about ruining for other people.
Just like with the developers I laugh at all and any attempt to be even ½ % untruthful, in developers' case obviously we looking at american corporatism - is there anything more full of it but they also trying to sell a product, so a fake facade to some extend is to be expected.
But ultimately it's still about respect for the players and respect for the star trek franchise.
The expansion, the history leading up to and what has happened after I don't think anyone, minus developer apologists, have anything positive to say.
So to me at this point it's up to the developers and in a big way too.
From my personal perspective we had patience with them and cut them slack through 2 years of nerfs that made the game super terrible. Maybe we should have stood up to them, maybe it was our fault for letting it happen.
But at this point there is nothing left to nerf - contraband I guess, so the entire game is nerfed into dysfunction, it is unplayble.
Do developers get that, what kind of guilt admission are they ready for, what are they able to do to restore it and so on, are the only questions left and all there is to say.
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PLAYERS: Come and see the violence inherent in the system!!
CRYPTIC: Bloody peasant!
PLAYERS: Oh, what a giveaway! Did you hear that? Did you hear that, eh? That's what I'm on about! Did you see him repressing me? You saw him, didn't you?
Not to try and argue but, the simple fact that there are no GM's, clearly shows how much they probably pay attention to the tons of reports coming in.
Praetor of the -RTS- Romulan Tal Shiar fleet!
Good job his high horse has room for 2 aint it - as I did 1 full TD patrol run (all in Japori as normal) and gained 2 levels (50 - 52).
My first reaction was a simple one, I said to my friends "This cannot be right, 2 levels in 1 patrol mission - it's got to be a mistake".
I thought, I'll hang back a few days, just in case there is a problem.
My friends and I went to play another MMO for 2 days, what did we come back to; ......
TA DA !!!!!
That is how an H_O_N_E_S_T player plays the game. It's called trust / faith / common sense.
shadowwraith77 budge over, I'm jumping up on that there moral horse with you, hope the saddle is big enough, I'm no small fry
Yes and, that is why we invent casinos, because we know there will be those who just cannot resist the urge to gamble, despite how astronomical the odds may be against them.
Praetor of the -RTS- Romulan Tal Shiar fleet!
I agree with the latter (those who knew vs those who did not) but "the enemy lvl did not surpass lvl50" I have to call you out on... I was in at lvl 57, matched to a lvl 55, and the enemy NCPS came up at max as -2. Now that means they were lvl 53.
If I go in as a 60 and they come up as -10 then yes, I agree... but that wasn't the case. At least, not with a group matched to low to mid 50's.
you looked at the queues lately? wtf you on about?
theyre hellbent on killing the game.
they knew the issues, they just gave a damn.
dedicated grinders just make such a better scapegoat than executive producers or lazyass dev teams, huh?
Dosent matter if we make the rules after you brake them were still gonna punish you WHAHAHAHA
I have come up with a saying that I use far too much. Common sense is not common. Just because you use common sense doesn't mean that the majority will use common sense.
Ha, imagine a casino arguing in court, "Your Honor, we know that the person intended to cheat, because when they sat down at a machine and it paid out a jackpot because we accidentally had the wrong payout table loaded on it, that was way more than the average person gets paid out on our machines and by that we know... that person was cheating!"
no thats not honest, its casual.
i could get more in a two man team in argala. which apparently scaled right.
Ironically, common sense is the least common of all our senses.
sadly the people who did the right thing when they noticed these issues are the bad guys here which I find odd anyhow its fixed now .. so its safe
I have found this issue has had one positive side effect. Anyone logging into the game and starts ranting about these issues gets immediatly put on ignore so I feel as if i have a way to eliminate the chance of accidently grouping with someone who potentially is probably not someone I would want to spend much time ingame with...... anyhow uh for what its worth thanks for fessing up and saying that you saw the issue and ran away (I was beginning to feel like i was the only one ^^)
How is it anyone else fault but your own, if you play a game for what you think it should be as opposed to playing it for what it actually is !?!?!?!?
If you don't like games that have long drawn out grinds with pay to win (or pay to ease the pain) systems in.... then don't blame the Devs for making it - it is YOUR fault you play it.
No one from Cryptic is standing there forcing you to login to the game (or the forums). No one is holding your wallet at gun point.
If you are playing with the idea that "it will get better" bouncing around your head.... news flash, the basic game, the core game play - HAS NOT CHANGED IN 4 YEARS.
All that happens, as with any MMO now, is they find new ways to drag it out, so you pay up to lessen the grind.
Don't like...
Don't play it.
Where did I mention that I was talking about STO devs? I was talking about the role that all devs in all MMOs should have not just STO.
Face it. You are playing Cryptic's game so they make the rules. If someone breaks the rules, then they are within their rights to punish someone. The punishment for this exploit seems to be minor compared to their punishment to some other exploits. Look up Caturday on Google. That exploit had numerous accounts being permabanned.
it either was solo grinding argala, or pug what was there to pug, tau dewa.
i tried to enjoy delta rising with the dead queues it brought.
and no, i never even thought of it being a exploit, theres been better ways to get xp anytime.
i just wanted to team up.
yeah, you believe their lies cause its a convenient excuse for you, youre also are proud of being not relevant to cryptic at all.
the "cheating scum 250" been more important than:
· people not able to start client
· people crashing on loading
· tray resetting itself
· romulans/remans not being abled to train boffs
· heck, even that bull**** hierarchy boff being customizable is a greater issue than anything mentioned before.
not that the fix will include a way for kdf aligned players to get that boff again. we can enjoy our feddie fattie.
who got the attention?
the people who tried to still have fun with the game when queues and kerrat died.
It is nice to see how the divide and conquer I talked about in my post on another thread is working so well.......
Next day I check the forums and see them on fire about heavy handed punishments. I jump on the game to check my Speck points and found....... They were all there right where I left them. Later the same day my girlfriend asks to use the computer so I let her on and despite the fact that she had only beeing playing episode missions solo on normal (which I know for a fact because I was sat next to her helping her out for the majority of it) and gotten to about 70. 10 of her spec points were gone.
The video I seen depicted on youtube, showed player's matching a lvl53 character.
This was with player's ranging from lvl53-56, yet the enemy indicator clearly showed a -3 based of the lowest lvl player being matched, therefore the enemies were running at lvl50!
Yes, they could try to argue that but, how good would their odds be at winning such a case?
Casinos do monitor slots, they also monitor all the games there and, this is why they deemed it ok in blackjack, that card counting is ok by an individual but, with other's helping or, using a machine of any sort to aid you, is considered cheating.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Card_counting
Card counting is not illegal under federal, state, and local laws in the United States as long as no external card counting device or person assists the player in counting cards. Casinos object to the practice, and try to prevent it,[22] banning players believed to be counters. In their pursuit to identify card counters, casinos sometimes misidentify and ban players suspected of counting cards even if they do not.[23]
Atlantic City casinos in the State of New Jersey are forbidden from barring card counters as a result of a New Jersey Supreme Court decision. In 1979 Ken Uston, a Blackjack Hall of Fame inductee, filed a lawsuit against an Atlantic City casino, claiming that casinos did not have the right to ban skilled players. The New Jersey Supreme Court agreed,[24] ruling that "the state's control of Atlantic City's casinos is so complete that only the New Jersey Casino Control Commission has the power to make rules to exclude skillful players." The Commission has made no regulation on card counting, so that Atlantic City casinos are not allowed to ban card counters. Being unable to ban counters even if detected, Atlantic City casinos increased countermeasures
Praetor of the -RTS- Romulan Tal Shiar fleet!
you been on point with that statement. enjoyed reading that.
I think you need to re-read things as well
Well, unless the EP is your "very skilled player".... you've read it wrong.
Maybe I am wrong in my recollection, but I remember distinctively looking at the -2 lvls on the Japori NPCs then looking to my level: 57 (55).
The queues were not dead, I have done only normal pug queues and, I am sitting at lvl54.
And this is by casually playing, not trying to power level by any means.
Praetor of the -RTS- Romulan Tal Shiar fleet!
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
im not finished yet.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
you suck, sorry. 212k exp till dr went live?
ohwait even much less omg.
and you got the nerve to call me a exploiter?
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!
you missed the part where i solo'd to 60 apparently, your opinion isnt wanted, or insightful at all.
Well if the shoe fits, than I guess wear it!
Praetor of the -RTS- Romulan Tal Shiar fleet!
he keeps on doing that rofl.
see, didnt call you clown cohort member slowpoke for no reason.
seriously get a grip, youre not as dedicated as you think you are.
your opinion and playstyle is irrelevant to cryptics decisions.
my playstyle apparently isnt.
have two chars that levelled in japori only.
have my main that levelled mostly solo to 84.
level 84 got punished, japori grinders didnt.
wheres your "exploit" again?
I was completely off topic on every post - naughty me. So, just so I can with good conscience say I responded to this thread properly.
The OP wants the other 249 people to share share stories over this current situation. Well, please, allow me to point you to the Perfect World Entertainment Community Rules and Policies;
"Posting Cheats, Hacks, Trojan Horses, or Malicious Programs
You may not create posts and/or private messages that allude to, contain language, comments, references, links, symbols, terms and/or imagery about and/or promote and/or otherwise support, in any manner whether directly or indirectly, cheats, hacks, cracks and/or malicious viruses/programs (e.g., keyloggers, Trojan horses, websites or files that take control of another person's computer, etc.)."
Sorry, but talking about your exploits, exploiting. Would be classed as promoting and supporting cheaters, not really a wise thing to do on the message boards of the company who own the game.
You may want to move that conversation over to /v/
they called us "dirty cheating scum" to make you baddies feel better.
and they nerfed exp to make everyone feel like you, congratulations.
but clown cohort drags out any rubbish to prove their point it seems.
good that you make their plot to cover their trails so easy.
its not like they punished people for "exploiting" bugs cryptic knew about for weeks, huh?
Every developer apologist I've seen without exception did not level in japori.
Because no one told them about it since no one talks to them.
I call them hall monitors, a woman scorn or benedict arnolds, they are hybrids of all 3, and if you notice what gives them away every last single time, they say the game is perfect and there is nothing to complain about but they are the most negative, bitter and petty person, and no one complains more than them.
That's how you can spot a body snatcher who had his vessel taken over by resentfulness towards people.
We've been down the road before of how their behaviour damages the game but what hasn't been discussed nearly as much is how they only post to troll because they actually get off on other people feeling just a small version of their pain.
I've come to believe it's actually not nearly as much about being the teacher's pet for attention as it is about ruining for other people.
Just like with the developers I laugh at all and any attempt to be even ½ % untruthful, in developers' case obviously we looking at american corporatism - is there anything more full of it but they also trying to sell a product, so a fake facade to some extend is to be expected.
But ultimately it's still about respect for the players and respect for the star trek franchise.
The expansion, the history leading up to and what has happened after I don't think anyone, minus developer apologists, have anything positive to say.
So to me at this point it's up to the developers and in a big way too.
From my personal perspective we had patience with them and cut them slack through 2 years of nerfs that made the game super terrible. Maybe we should have stood up to them, maybe it was our fault for letting it happen.
But at this point there is nothing left to nerf - contraband I guess, so the entire game is nerfed into dysfunction, it is unplayble.
Do developers get that, what kind of guilt admission are they ready for, what are they able to do to restore it and so on, are the only questions left and all there is to say.