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im flying a 12k dps advanced obelisk (no dps monster at all),
they punished me for hardcore grinding.
10 skill points taken, was level 84.
levelled to 60 solo in argala, then did story and some tau dewa pug grinding,
while still soloing argala many times.
and no, japori didnt give x17 the exp other zones did,
no clue where the boss of the moneyhungry lazybunch gets that from.
530k skill points down the drain cause cryptic is too arrogant to acknowledge
serious tribble bug reports.
tell your delta rising punishment story now.
they punished me for hardcore grinding.
10 skill points taken, was level 84.
levelled to 60 solo in argala, then did story and some tau dewa pug grinding,
while still soloing argala many times.
and no, japori didnt give x17 the exp other zones did,
no clue where the boss of the moneyhungry lazybunch gets that from.
530k skill points down the drain cause cryptic is too arrogant to acknowledge
serious tribble bug reports.
tell your delta rising punishment story now.
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You, along with other's, got your hands caught in the cookie jar and, now were punished!
Just because there are cookies in that jar, doesn't mean you were told you could have any.
In other words, just because there was an error in programming allowing for an exploit, doesn't mean you can go ahead and exploit it.
Despite Cryptic being told about it, they may of not had time to fix it before going live, because there are such things as scheduled release and, while they could have technically pushed back the release date, they may have been told not to by the superiors of the company.
Praetor of the -RTS- Romulan Tal Shiar fleet!
no way it felt like exploiting anything, i levelled with likeminded grinders,
in a mission that gave less exp than the optimum exp grind.
we didnt get bop exp x17 or anything you take for granted from this sorry excuse of a dev team.
and sorry for not magically getting the dev teams intentions,
when they dont communicate their intentions,
and ignore bug reports on that same matter.
also youre not part of the 250 best players.
keep licking their spit, suits you fine.
edit: also you quote me on second post? okay ill ignore you, youre a non issue.
just cause youre lazy doesnt make me a "exploiter", which sounds to me like "cheating scum".
but stay on your high horse, youre irrelevant to cryptics income, you didnt get level in time.
but made time when it started costing them money
system Lord Baal is dead
In which case, they should have taken it on the chin and just nerfed when they could get to it. Instead, they retro-nerfed, on the basis of their mind-reading, using nothing more than "revert to the mean" stats, to try to make up for a mistake of their own creation.
By doing so, they have crossed a line where every player is now at risk of having stuff they achieve retro-nerfed on the basis of His Holiness deciding at some future point in time that he doesn't like whatever it was he imagines the player did.
Players and developers need to be able to trust that the other will act in good faith. This action has damaged that on both sides. And it could have been totally avoided by a simple nerf of the areas under question, without retronerfing people's accounts.
Technically, it really didn't cost them TRIBBLE most likely, because they already have people's money from the start.
They could have but, the Dev's know good and well, that there are plenty of people willing to go against that trust and, merely exploit any advantage they can.
Is it wrong for either to do so?
Yes and no.
Praetor of the -RTS- Romulan Tal Shiar fleet!
So what makes people exploiting bugs in a game be part of the 250 best players? It is the actions of these people that caused harm to numerous players that got burned just because they played on Elite by calling attention to something that the devs could have ignored. Elite giving 5x the normal rate could have been ignored until the devs were good and ready to fix it without any punishment, but 17x the normal rate is not something they could have ignored.
they boosted the difficulty up 6 times (hp, shields and resists) and the xp was boosted up to 5 for elite. they didnt figure on folks with high dps builds to blow thru the patrols so fast cause of their own fault. after all 12k dps is amazing when the average dps for L50 in this game if you factor in the total player base is under 5k.
they have since nerf'd the exp in elite down to 2x of normal saying this is what is should of been cause pre-DR it was only 1.75. yet they dont bother to tell us how much HP mods had in elite compared to normal pre-DR.
the ROI for this game for playing anything other than normal now is total junk... if this was the return on a real life investment with real $, only a fool would put money into elite since you can get a better return somewhere else.
cause you obviously didnt make it to get cryptic care about their income.
Ignore me all you like, the fact of the matter is, you got punished and, no amount of whining is going to change it so, enjoy your privilege that you can still play and, not possibly banned as a punishment instead of a loss of lvls that can be regained.
Praetor of the -RTS- Romulan Tal Shiar fleet!
eh TRIBBLE you im not whining,
i got set back to level 74, thats more than you cryptic clown cohort member reached till now.
your whining about me stating serious issues just proves it.
and thats ignoring more hardcore grinders than me kept all their levels.
you made it into a whining thread, i wanted to hear stories of others being treated unfairly.
So trying to sabotage the game makes you one of the best players?
The problem was heavily reported on tribble long before launch. nothing was don about it. It is therfore reasonable to assume that it was ether not something cryptic cared about or that it was intentional.
Cryptic then made a statement after launch that they had only just been made aware of it from player habits several days after launch. This suggests that ether they pay no attention to tribble bug reports (not likely but I wouldn't put it past them) or they are lying and were aware of the issue and were too lazy to fix it thinking it would go unnoticed.
After fixing the bug they then went on to punish the player base in such a weay that large numbers of players that weren't even aware of the bug and had been grinding through other means were affected
So ether they are paying no attention to there testers or they are lazy. Ether way they ******* over a large portion of the player base and you are defending that practice essencially bending over in front of them and begging them to do it again.
And they've tarred everyone with a "Guilty till you prove yourself innocent" brush. Well, how good for them, I'm sure that just gives everyone a warm fuzzy feeling inside.
You kind of have to with an MMO, as most of the time, they ARE untrustworthy, cheating scum.
The patrols worked as they were intended, as they had been working ever since the release of LOR. The issue arose with the new normal/advanced/elite system they put in place. This issue was addressed and highlighted by many on Tirbble. Despite all of this, Cryptic rolled it to live with the release. Therefore it is not a stretch of the imagination for players to assume this was intended.
I, too, pugged to 60 on one toon using the Tau Dewa maps. My assumption was, in a group of 5 on the elite setting, the xp was proportionate and in line with the new changes. I did not intend to exploit anything merely because I was unaware a potential for exploitation existed at all as did most players.
Cryptic believed otherwise and that was their call. I do not agree with how they handled it but in the end, I, like all players, are powerless to change that fact.
My fear is that this will happen again. Already people are teaming up for xp farming patrols that are working as intended. Are they? Apparently we have no clue. What happens when Cryptic decides this is an exploit as well? A terrible precedent has been set by Cryptic and players are being punished for it. That is, beyond a shadow of a doubt, no bueno!
Or they had other priorities to fix before the game launched. Hindsight is 20/20 and unfortunately you don't know until it is too late and you can't do anything about it.
you missed that i was level 84, no income was in danger, at all.
they sabotaged their own game, the issues been reported, still they pushed them to holodeck in their arrogance.
punishing dedicated players is easier than to admit they made a fault.
There in lies the problem. Never assume anything!
Praetor of the -RTS- Romulan Tal Shiar fleet!
you assume your high horse stance will get you anywhere.
it just makes you look weird, slowpoke.
everyone not telling his "getting punished" story in this thread is off topic, btw.
Having the devs overreact and cause a lot of innocent players to rage about losing their specialization points is sabotaging the game. The devs are supposed to act in a manner that preserves the health of the game which sometimes means controversial decisions. If you and another player put in the same amount of time and effort and you are level 84 due to an exploit while they are level 68 by playing the game normally, then that is harming the game.
could you, really? LOL
i didnt exploit anything, thats the devs blame to cover their own lazyness.
The diff setting by itself is not the issue nor, is the fact that people were teaming up and, neither was the fact they were level matching the lowest player.
What was the issue is, that player(s) knew the enemy lvl did not surpass lvl50 and, that they took advantage of this issue.
Than you have those who were aware this was an issue, along with the SP's being handed out were a bit too high, yet many simply went right ahead and, like I said stuck their hands in the cookie jar so to speak, without ever being told they had permission to do so.
I am not completely against what you people are saying, about the punishment being a bit overboard but, I am against people trying to act like they did absolutely nothing!
Praetor of the -RTS- Romulan Tal Shiar fleet!
Funny, the thread doesn't even match the topic so, I wouldn't be completely off topic, now would I?
Praetor of the -RTS- Romulan Tal Shiar fleet!
turns out reading comprehension isnt a requirement to be proud member of cryptics clown cohort.
This is a reasonable assumption however considering they plainly stated that they had been made aware of the issue only after launch does still suggest that they were not paying attention to the bug reports of people testing the product before launch. If you are right and and they had higher priorities that prevented them from even taking a quick look at there testers feedback that would imply that quality control is a very low priority. Something else that supports this theory is how quickly they fixed the problem after the time they claimed to be made aware of it.
If it was that easy to fix don't you think they would have done so before launch if they had been paying attention to tester feedback considering how heavily this was reported.
The only explanations that make sense is they dont pay attention to the test servers or they are lazy
No, you named it so, maybe you need some gallses to better see the title of it! -o-o-
Praetor of the -RTS- Romulan Tal Shiar fleet!
Defending The Galaxy By Breaking One Starfleet Regulation After The Next.
That is what the supposed to is for. It is the devs job to keep the game going as long as possible and make sure that players are willing to spend cash on the game. Some decisions are good for the game and some are the bad, but the devs are human so liable to make mistakes. As I said before hindsight is 20/20 so what is a bad decision is not always known until it is too late.
And Cryptic knows the psychological factors at play, in particular the individual players' intentions and in-depth psychological profiles... by taking a bunch of statistics, reverting to a mean average, and choosing an arbitrary cutoff point.
Yeah, of course they do.