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Argala 5K XP in 8 min Advanced Difficulty

mattjohnsonvamattjohnsonva Member Posts: 4,974 Arc User
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After trying all sorts of missions and patrols this one still tops the XP. Battleship Royal Rumble will give up to 5K XP with some good loot but takes a bit longer and once you hit the cap you no longer get drops or XP.

Trying Argala on normal, advanced and elite, advanced tops the score at 8 min repeatedly making 5000 XP+, that's one tenth of a level, so you can make a full level in under an hour.

This was done in a double A2B Gal-X at 23% crtH, 4 phasers, gravimetric torp, heavy phaser turret (and console) and the experimental proton weapon (and console). It was so easy I could have increased the crtH whilst reducing resists making this run faster but I wanted to see what a reasonably good Gal-X can do it in. My Scim would clear this faster as would a good Narcine.

I should note that I was using a lot of warp plasma to stop the Kazon from running away, it lasts longer than a grav well and tends to group them nicely if you time the dump well.

I've not tested it on Eng or Sci, for them normal may still be better.

Hope that helps.
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  • meimeitoomeimeitoo Member Posts: 12,594 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    After trying all sorts of missions and patrols this one still tops the XP. Battleship Royal Rumble will give up to 5K XP with some good loot but takes a bit longer and once you hit the cap you no longer get drops or XP.

    Trying Argala on normal, advanced and elite, advanced tops the score at 8 min repeatedly making 5000 XP+, that's one tenth of a level, so you can make a full level in under an hour.

    This was done in a double A2B Gal-X at 23% crtH, 4 phasers, gravimetric torp, heavy phaser turret (and console) and the experimental proton weapon (and console). It was so easy I could have increased the crtH whilst reducing resists making this run faster but I wanted to see what a reasonably good Gal-X can do it in. My Scim would clear this faster as would a good Narcine.

    I should note that I was using a lot of warp plasma to stop the Kazon from running away, it lasts longer than a grav well and tends to group them nicely if you time the dump well.

    I've not tested it on Eng or Sci, for them normal may still be better.

    Hope that helps.


    I've been doing Argala for the last few hours too, and recouped 3 of my 6 stolen Spec points. Did the first half in my Aquatic Carrier; then I realized I might as well train up Mastery for my Mobius while I'm at it. :)
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  • semalda226semalda226 Member Posts: 1,994 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    Prepare for the NERFBAT!!!
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  • daan2006daan2006 Member Posts: 5,346 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    semalda226 wrote: »
    Prepare for the NERFBAT!!!

    my thought to lmfao :D
    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
    swimwear off risa not fixed
    system Lord Baal is dead
    macronius wrote: »
    This! Their ability to outdo their own failures is quite impressive. If only this power could be harnessed for good.
  • unsacredgraveunsacredgrave Member Posts: 150 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    sounds like an exploit to me... will be nerfed for sure
  • meimeitoomeimeitoo Member Posts: 12,594 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    sounds like an exploit to me... will be nerfed for sure

    I can't possibly fathom an exploit. Argala is one of the systems they fixed: it should be safe now.
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  • unsacredgraveunsacredgrave Member Posts: 150 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    meimeitoo wrote: »
    I can't possibly fathom an exploit. Argala is one of the systems they fixed: it should be safe now.

    dAngelo said, if ist too good to be true, ist an exploit. so this is one.
  • illuzianilluzian Member Posts: 8 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    Sounds like a perfect way to spend your precious(mandatory: 1st world) game time so that at a later point in time you can have your heart and soul extracted out of you by Cryptic.

    You know, because Elite difficulty is supposed to take longer, and only give you the satisfaction of knowing that you did it, not that you used your time efficiently doing normals because Elite nets a marginal gain for so much more time.

    inb4exploit
  • meimeitoomeimeitoo Member Posts: 12,594 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    dAngelo said, if ist too good to be true, ist an exploit. so this is one.

    So, continuous grinding, reaping the XP they intended, is now exploitative too?! You gotta be kidding me!
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  • illuzianilluzian Member Posts: 8 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    meimeitoo wrote: »
    So, continuous grinding, reaping the XP they intended, is now exploitative too?! You gotta be kidding me!

    Playing a fun game is definitely too good to be true... wait
  • warmaker001bwarmaker001b Member Posts: 9,205 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    meimeitoo wrote: »
    I can't possibly fathom an exploit. Argala is one of the systems they fixed: it should be safe now.

    No. You are making progress using ingame mechanics. Going by what's been happening lately, I think that's an exploit :cool:

    Is logging in an exploit also now?
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  • daan2006daan2006 Member Posts: 5,346 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    meimeitoo wrote: »
    So, continuous grinding, reaping the XP they intended, is now exploitative too?! You gotta be kidding me!

    look at what happen before :P
    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
    swimwear off risa not fixed
    system Lord Baal is dead
    macronius wrote: »
    This! Their ability to outdo their own failures is quite impressive. If only this power could be harnessed for good.
  • meimeitoomeimeitoo Member Posts: 12,594 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    daan2006 wrote: »
    look at what happen before :P

    Ikr?!

    Okay, then, for crying out-load, I'd like dev confirmation that patrolling Argala, solo, is not an exploit.
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  • unsacredgraveunsacredgrave Member Posts: 150 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    meimeitoo wrote: »
    So, continuous grinding, reaping the XP they intended, is now exploitative too?! You gotta be kidding me!

    lol um? yes!? your read dAngelos posting. this is a perfect example for what he declares as exploit.
  • meimeitoomeimeitoo Member Posts: 12,594 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    lol um? yes!? your read dAngelos posting. this is a perfect example for what he declares as exploit.

    Then the man is insane, cuz he built an entire game around nothing but grinding! :P
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  • noshufflenoshuffle Member Posts: 271 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    What does Cryptic and you think : That I am Twiki The Robot and repeat the same patrol time after time.

    The issue isn't the exploit, nor lack of xp/skill points. It's the lack of content/missions to fill the gap between each level. And should their be one gap, it shouldn't be so huge as it is with the Delta Rising.
    OK, if I have to stay here for a while, your cieling ... looks idious.:D
  • meimeitoomeimeitoo Member Posts: 12,594 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    noshuffle wrote: »
    What does Cryptic and you think : That I am Twiki The Robot and repeat the same patrol time after time.

    The issue isn't the exploit, nor lack of xp/skill points. It's the lack of content/missions to fill the gap between each level. And should their be one gap, it shouldn't be so huge as it is with the Delta Rising.

    People need *lots* of XP, regardless of mission gaps. I still have 9 or so lockbox ships that need their Mastery leveled out; not to mention needing to fill out my Specialization. That was all D'Angelo's own idea: I just do the grinding.
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  • woodwhitywoodwhity Member Posts: 2,636 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    Exploiters at work /sarcasm
  • meimeitoomeimeitoo Member Posts: 12,594 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    Guys, don't worry and stop being paranoid, this isn't an exploit hehe, you think I would post it here if it was, eh?

    Under normal circumstances I wouldn't even consider it. But since what the devs pulled earlier...
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  • doublechadoublecha Member Posts: 241 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    2014 review:
    - less EC
    - less dilithium
    - less Exp
    - disastrous R&D
    - less players
    - more bugs

    For 2015:
    - dead STO game
    Qapla'
  • smokeybacon90smokeybacon90 Member Posts: 2,252 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    RIP Argala
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  • tarastheslayertarastheslayer Member Posts: 1,541 Bug Hunter
    edited October 2014
    They need to throw up experience gains, we ran a set of advanced STF's the other night and got so little xp it was hardly worth doing.
    Ten soldiers wisely led will beat a hundred without a head. - Euripides
    I no longer do any Bug Hunting work for Cryptic. I may resume if a serious attempt to fix the game is made.
  • aliensamongusaliensamongus Member Posts: 285 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    It's kind of strange that an in-between difficulty is actually worth more than the highest. I guess it's true.. DPS is key now. Whelp.. Yay? There goes the tanking, threat generating captains and all concept of having a trinity.

    Not that it was already gone to begin with. Still nice to have the illusion of being helpful for others, especially to escorts.

    My main ship can soak loads of damage, but it can take a bit of time to pop ships out of existance.
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  • semalda226semalda226 Member Posts: 1,994 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    They need to throw up experience gains, we ran a set of advanced STF's the other night and got so little xp it was hardly worth doing.

    Won't happen Exp gain is right where CRYPTIC wants it...non-existant. In 2 days ive gained half a level i used to get 2-3 a day with casual playing and doing STFs/PVEs.
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  • tarastheslayertarastheslayer Member Posts: 1,541 Bug Hunter
    edited October 2014
    semalda226 wrote: »
    Won't happen Exp gain is right where CRYPTIC wants it...non-existant. In 2 days ive gained half a level i used to get 2-3 a day with casual playing and doing STFs/PVEs.
    Unfortunately STFs have never given good XP. Replay of story missions is pathetic at 708 XP each too, the only way now is to run this and similar patrols solo, even teaming will work against you if you are not the primary damage dealer.

    Though I understand the feeling it doesn't make it right. I will say though judging from the evidence I've seen Cryptic is going to have to do something to appease players or this 'expansion' (hate calling it that, doesn't qualify as one in my book) is going to ruin the game.

    It's a failure already but I'd like to think it is at least salvageable (wishful thinking I know)....
    Ten soldiers wisely led will beat a hundred without a head. - Euripides
    I no longer do any Bug Hunting work for Cryptic. I may resume if a serious attempt to fix the game is made.
  • ussinterceptussintercept Member Posts: 627 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    meimeitoo wrote: »
    Then the man is insane, cuz he built an entire game around nothing but grinding! :P

    I honestly think the Tau Dewa Nerf had more to do with players not using DR Content to level than DAngelo is willing to admit.

    They had more people lingering and leveling in Japori then all of DQ. That just didnt look good for their PWE Overlords when they go to give a progress report. The fact that it took them until DR released to realize there was some broken mechanic in Tau Dewa. I call bull****. Someone a long the way would have discovered that vague exploit DAngelo mentioned long before DR and theyd have been able to see it was there.

    Im really unsure if theyll bother to nerf the Argala Advance Queues unless they believe itll hurt their bottomline.
  • [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    Are you sure this is fine? Since I doubt anything good will happen with my bug report I just want to recover my losses. I haven't really done anything in game since then and I'd rather not be called an exploiter again just for playing then have that progress removed again.
  • jarfarujarfaru Member Posts: 572 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    Lol after what we all just went through another player puts up another post like this. OMFG this is just stupid.
  • bobtheskull99bobtheskull99 Member Posts: 706 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    nice to see the hysteria is still here, for a while there I thought the forums actually came to it's senses
  • atomictikiatomictiki Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    dAngelo said, if ist too good to be true, ist an exploit. so this is one.

    That's a TRIBBLE-poor definition of "exploit."
    Leave nerfing to the professionals.
  • bellylintbellylint Member Posts: 26 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    Guys, don't worry and stop being paranoid, this isn't an exploit hehe, you think I would post it here if it was, eh?

    zomg you just exploited the forum by posting! :eek:
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