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I never ran the Tau Dewa exploit. Yet I still lose 23 spec points?!?!?

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  • azniadeetazniadeet Member Posts: 1,871 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    xaraman wrote: »
    ok,

    Did you run all your solo content on elite?

    Just trying to figure this out :)

    Cheers!

    Absolutely.
  • xaramanxaraman Member Posts: 291 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    Ok,

    Thanks for the info.

    I need to check some stuff out in game but have to go out and it may take a couple of hours. But maybe if someone has this info they could provide it.

    1) I think I remember a solo elite patrol giving me somewhere around 3900SP. Has this been nerfed? Does the SP value change depending on the zone you're in?

    2) Can someone check their XP (experience points, not skill points) and see if you've had a load removed?

    Cheers!
  • fatman592fatman592 Member Posts: 1,207 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    Playing this game is grounds for punishment. Now grab your credit card and purchase more Zen! Do it now! Become enough of a whale and a sycophant and you too may protect your shiny things!!!
  • abfabfleetabfabfleet Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    azniadeet wrote: »
    This is truly unacceptable, Cryptic. You've crossed a line. I worked like crazy for those points. I put in hours and hours and hours. I worked hard and I worked smart, and I didn't abuse your dumb little exploit.

    You are absolutely pitiful if you think it's right to abuse your player base in response to your own failures.

    I've defended Cryptic for most of my time in this game. I've always given you the benefit of the doubt. I'm done with that. You've flat out robbed me.

    Respectfully, let's be real here, they can track everything, 23 points?! Getting them this quick is impossible and the fact the dilithium was dropping, they have (according to the TOS) revoked that and I'm sure if it was spent, which it probably was, took the only available action which was to revoke your points. Which by all right, Cryptic/PWE clearly states that they amend this game in ANY fashion they choose with or without telling anyone. Which clearly you accepted by playing this game. Bug or no bug, it's there and they resolved it.

    And let's look at another FACT here. Because of this other players are probably NOT getting spit when they complete all of the specialization traits because of this BUG that WAS clearly exploited by the few. The may or may not have known, who cares, they corrected it and a reason was given.

    I get it, you were robbed of those points, but look at it this way, you are lucky no suspensions took place. Pick up your pips off the floor and earn them again, so in the end you lose and so do we ;)
  • thutmosis85thutmosis85 Member Posts: 2,358 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    abfabfleet wrote: »
    Respectfully, let's be real here, they can track everything, 23 points?! Getting them this quick is impossible and the fact the dilithium was dropping

    You want to be real, but seriously believe Cryptic has the resources to even do such a thing (even if they can track it, they're not gonna assign one of their 10 employees to do so) ... if they had, they wouln't have just closed all of Tau Dewa, in the first place ... hell they didn't even care about the Tribble Petting Exploit (and that was a real one) ...
    Patch Notes : Resolved an Issue, where people would accidently experience Fun.
  • catjarrettcatjarrett Member Posts: 285 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    abfabfleet wrote: »
    Respectfully, let's be real here, they can track everything, 23 points?! Getting them this quick is impossible and the fact the dilithium was dropping, they have (according to the TOS) revoked that and I'm sure if it was spent, which it probably was, took the only available action which was to revoke your points. Which by all right, Cryptic/PWE clearly states that they amend this game in ANY fashion they choose with or without telling anyone. Which clearly you accepted by playing this game. Bug or no bug, it's there and they resolved it.

    And let's look at another FACT here. Because of this other players are probably NOT getting spit when they complete all of the specialization traits because of this BUG that WAS clearly exploited by the few. The may or may not have known, who cares, they corrected it and a reason was given.

    I get it, you were robbed of those points, but look at it this way, you are lucky no suspensions took place. Pick up your pips off the floor and earn them again, so in the end you lose and so do we ;)

    Except your reasoning is faulty.

    This is an update glitch. People who did not do any sort of exploit and did not have their trees maxxed out are getting got by it.

    The update mucked with the spec tree. This is an unfortunate result. It's not a correction.
  • abfabfleetabfabfleet Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    catjarrett wrote: »
    Except your reasoning is faulty.

    This is an update glitch. People who did not do any sort of exploit and did not have their trees maxxed out are getting got by it.

    The update mucked with the spec tree. This is an unfortunate result. It's not a correction.

    Either way, according to the TOS, they can correct it in any fashion they choose. It's over and fixed, can we possibly get back to the game without having this discussion carry on further. Whether or not a glitch, submit a ticket, but be prepared, they could say 'Uh no and here is why according to your log in time and location'.

    Everything is tracked in this game, whether or not a bug or missing items, zen and so forth, Big Brother can find out. ;)
  • futurepastnowfuturepastnow Member Posts: 3,660 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    Wait, there are people who believe this was a patch bug and not deliberate? Until and unless they say it's a bug and will be fixed, I see no reason to believe that.
  • xlesha911xlesha911 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    They trying to fix Crafting Traits Unlocked Bug. 1st respec didn't fix it... 2nd respec, after today's patch, didn't fix it. Wait another patch\respec, and, i'm afraid, ppl will lost more spec points, since they are trying to kill this bug by "nuclear bomb"...
  • catjarrettcatjarrett Member Posts: 285 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    abfabfleet wrote: »
    Either way, according to the TOS, they can correct it in any fashion they choose. It's over and fixed, can we possibly get back to the game without having this discussion carry on further. Whether or not a glitch, submit a ticket, but be prepared, they could say 'Uh no and here is why according to your log in time and location'.

    Everything is tracked in this game, whether or not a bug or missing items, zen and so forth, Big Brother can find out. ;)

    Ah, yes, that I agree with, they do have the frame in place for that.
    Wait, there are people who believe this was a patch bug and not deliberate? Until and unless they say it's a bug and will be fixed, I see no reason to believe that.

    So penalizing the folks who didn't even go near Tau Dewa much less use the exploit are being punished by your almighty Cryptic pantheon because...?

    It's a bug.
  • azniadeetazniadeet Member Posts: 1,871 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    Cryptic has the legal right to do whatever they want with our accounts. They can shut down the whole game right now if they want.

    But this isn't about legal rights. It's about morality.

    It is absolutely immoral for them to steal these EARNED points from the playerbase... even if it is legal.
  • quadraxis666quadraxis666 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    xlesha911 wrote: »
    They trying to fix Crafting Traits Unlocked Bug. 1st respec didn't fix it... 2nd respec, after today's patch, didn't fix it. Wait another patch\respec, and, i'm afraid, ppl will lost more spec points, since they are trying to kill this bug by "nuclear bomb"...

    I believe this man here is correct. if you are using any of the crafting level 15 traits but haven't yet legitimately earned them, stop using them. i was fully spec'd in pilot & intel, with a further 7 in commando. and after the patch skills invalid etc. i was using beam barrage which i haven't yet gotten legitimately on the toon in question. same thing last week when the game was patched too.

    As a result i have lost over 20 points, fortunately I was left with enough to fully refill pilot and all of the space abilities in intel.

    However on the other toon i had gotten to 60, also using beam barrage and having pilot fully spec'ed and intel halfway done, nothing was changed. this toon has access to beam barrage legitimately from getting to level 15 beam R&D.

    So if you're using any crafting trait that's unlocked early because of the bug, stop using it, or risk losing whatever points you can scrape back again before the next nuclear nerfpatch.
  • azniadeetazniadeet Member Posts: 1,871 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    abfabfleet wrote: »
    Respectfully, let's be real here, they can track everything, 23 points?! Getting them this quick is impossible and the fact the dilithium was dropping, they have (according to the TOS) revoked that and I'm sure if it was spent, which it probably was, took the only available action which was to revoke your points. Which by all right, Cryptic/PWE clearly states that they amend this game in ANY fashion they choose with or without telling anyone. Which clearly you accepted by playing this game. Bug or no bug, it's there and they resolved it.

    And let's look at another FACT here. Because of this other players are probably NOT getting spit when they complete all of the specialization traits because of this BUG that WAS clearly exploited by the few. The may or may not have known, who cares, they corrected it and a reason was given.

    I get it, you were robbed of those points, but look at it this way, you are lucky no suspensions took place. Pick up your pips off the floor and earn them again, so in the end you lose and so do we ;)

    It's not impossible, because I did it. No exploits. No level trickery. No TOS violations. I could start over right now, but I shouldn't have to.

    I'm off work for the month, so I've pulled at least three all nighters grinding since DR launched. I haven't got a lot else to do at the moment. In fact, i'm rather bored...

    And why am I lucky no suspensions took place? I did nothing wrong.
  • abfabfleetabfabfleet Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    azniadeet wrote: »
    It's not impossible, because I did it. No exploits. No level trickery. No TOS violations. I could start over right now, but I shouldn't have to.

    I'm off work for the month, so I've pulled at least three all nighters grinding since DR launched. I haven't got a lot else to do at the moment. In fact, i'm rather bored...

    And why am I lucky no suspensions took place? I did nothing wrong.

    I would file a ticket if this is the case and place it in Bug Reports, but hey, be respectful about it and explain your events, they may respond personally in-game.

    I would also say as well, they should of notified the players involved and told them hey your points are being revoked because of our mistake. But by all rights they don't have to.

    Truly good luck, it's possible it may be a glitch...
  • noshufflenoshuffle Member Posts: 271 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    Of course they're evil exploiters ... ALL OF THEM ... but to be serious it's Cryptic we're talking about, like they would have the resources to punish even "real exploiters" ... they never did it before .... sooo Bug/Glitch

    What exploit ? It was clearly mentioned after the second mission in the Delta Rising expansion that in need to obtain the next level, players should acquire the needed skill/xp points through playing other alternatives.
    OK, if I have to stay here for a while, your cieling ... looks idious.:D
  • meimeitoomeimeitoo Member Posts: 12,594 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    azniadeet wrote: »
    It's not impossible, because I did it. No exploits. No level trickery. No TOS violations. I could start over right now, but I shouldn't have to.

    I'm off work for the month, so I've pulled at least three all nighters grinding since DR launched. I haven't got a lot else to do at the moment. In fact, i'm rather bored...

    And why am I lucky no suspensions took place? I did nothing wrong.

    ^^ All of this! And I'm not grinding another few days, just to get back what I already had. That is just total BS.
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