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goodbye daily bonus marks???

gregkanegregkane Member Posts: 278 Arc User
edited October 2014 in Star Trek Online General Discussion
Reading the patch notes i see they have updated rewards for que missions- no mention of the daily bonus- if any devs read could you clarify is it removed or still there??
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  • apsciliaraapsciliara Member Posts: 247 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    I'm fairly certain they'd tell us before removing the daily bonus marks. It just wasn't mentioned in the latest patch notes because they didn't do anything to them.
  • gregkanegregkane Member Posts: 278 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    apsciliara wrote: »
    I'm fairly certain they'd tell us before removing the daily bonus marks. It just wasn't mentioned in the latest patch notes because they didn't do anything to them.

    Hopefully u are correct and this is not another stealth nerf
  • anazondaanazonda Member Posts: 8,399 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    Even IF they removed them, the potential for getting more marks is still better with the changes than before.

    I may remember wrong, but in the first run of a given mark daily, you get some 10-20 marks + the Reward box of 50 (I don't remember the exact numbers though).

    Now if every single advanced queue gives 65 Marks static now, then you can earn more, as you get an additional 45'ish each run after the first.
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  • gregkanegregkane Member Posts: 278 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    anazonda wrote: »
    Even IF they removed them, the potential for getting more marks is still better with the changes than before.

    I may remember wrong, but in the first run of a given mark daily, you get some 10-20 marks + the Reward box of 50 (I don't remember the exact numbers though).

    Now if every single advanced queue gives 65 Marks static now, then you can earn more, as you get an additional 45'ish each run after the first.

    True but u could go in and do a simple mission or cap a qhick zone in voth/undine zone if you where pressed for time now "mayb" you will have to do a full mission/zone to get enough marks
  • anazondaanazonda Member Posts: 8,399 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    gregkane wrote: »
    True but u could go in and do a simple mission or cap a qhick zone in voth/undine zone if you where pressed for time now "mayb" you will have to do a full mission/zone to get enough marks

    I can see how that can be an issue on the days where you have time in short supply...

    However, I think in the long run, you will earn more than you miss out on, provided you have >=1 hour on average daily.

    It's a trade-off really...
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  • ltminnsltminns Member Posts: 12,572 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    This is a crazy thread, where did this come from? You know they didn't mention they weren't removing item rewards from missions, does that mean they are going to remove them?

    Daily Bonuses are not going away, period. Daily Bonuses are part of the fundamental operation of the Reputation system and have nothing to do with Mark Rewards from PvE queues. They would specifically announce a change like Daily Bonuses being removed. That was a key part of the Reputation System revamp.
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  • gregkanegregkane Member Posts: 278 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    ltminns wrote: »
    This is a crazy thread, where did this come from? You know they didn't mention they weren't removing item rewards from missions, does that mean they are going to remove them?

    Daily Bonuses are not going away, period. Daily Bonuses are part of the fundamental operation of the Reputation system and have nothing to do with Mark Rewards from PvE queues. They would specifically announce a change like Daily Bonuses being removed. That was a key part of the Reputation System revamp.

    Thank you mr cryptic for clarifying i appreciate it. It says in patch notes que marks revamp- doesnt mean dailys gone but sure dont mean they arent if you havnt seen the stealth sneaky nerfs you obviously arent playing same sto as me :) but hopefully u are correct and i am wrong
  • anazondaanazonda Member Posts: 8,399 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    ltminns wrote: »
    This is a crazy thread, where did this come from? You know they didn't mention they weren't removing item rewards from missions, does that mean they are going to remove them?

    Daily Bonuses are not going away, period. Daily Bonuses are part of the fundamental operation of the Reputation system and have nothing to do with Mark Rewards from PvE queues. They would specifically announce a change like Daily Bonuses being removed. That was a key part of the Reputation System revamp.

    You are assuming they announce every change they make... They don't.

    Regardless, this does not seem to be the case this time, but I still would prefer if they would return it to the original model.
    Don't look silly... Don't call it the "Z-Store/Zen Store"...
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  • damix4damix4 Member Posts: 609 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    gregkane wrote: »
    Thank you mr cryptic for clarifying i appreciate it. It says in patch notes que marks revamp- doesnt mean dailys gone but sure dont mean they arent if you havnt seen the stealth sneaky nerfs you obviously arent playing same sto as me :) but hopefully u are correct and i am wrong

    Things like daily bonus would never be removed without announcement. They never stealth nerf something like that.
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  • sheldonlcoopersheldonlcooper Member Posts: 4,042 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    This is a core part of how they want us to play: do 1 of each type of mission instead of repeating the easiest one over and over. So I think it will be around for the foreseeable future.
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  • castiuscastius Member Posts: 39 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    The daily bonus stays, they just nerf the Marks reward for STFs, because you know, people are already so happy about the changes to the STFs.

    I am really wondering whats going through the devs mind to come up with changes like these, when the community is already waiting with torches and pitchforks.
  • tekehdtekehd Member Posts: 2,032 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    Additionally the release notes say nothing about being able to fly starships, outfit our boffs, or even being able to log in any longer.

    .... just sayin'
  • castiuscastius Member Posts: 39 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    lol love the fact how ppl are trolling the OP but totally ignore the fact that Mark rewards get nerfed.
  • tekehdtekehd Member Posts: 2,032 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    castius wrote: »
    lol love the fact how ppl are trolling the OP but totally ignore the fact that Mark rewards get nerfed.

    Not really. ISA awarded a maximum of 75 before and still awards a maximum of 75 after, as an example. Merely 10 got moved from the base to the bonus. The nerf on Advanced NPC hull HP and resist levels should make the bonus more manageable to obtain. But in the end it still rewards the same if you complete the mission in its entirety.
  • glorthoxglorthox Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    I just ran my daily and it yielded 90 marks total for delta. Then i ran it again sometime later. And it only yielded 35. So IMO, they lowered the reward for doing something on elite. It used to be 55 marks when completing an elite, and this is after you did the daily. So I am trying to understand, whats the incentive to keep running a hard game?
  • catjarrettcatjarrett Member Posts: 285 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    What I don't get is this:
    Elite Mode:
    80 Marks for completion.
    20 Marks for completing the Optional objective.

    Um...it's not an optional, you HAVE to do it in order to complete the mission...so shouldn't it just be 100 marks for completion?
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  • gavinrunebladegavinruneblade Member Posts: 3,894 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    catjarrett wrote: »
    What I don't get is this:



    Um...it's not an optional, you HAVE to do it in order to complete the mission...so shouldn't it just be 100 marks for completion?

    What is optional at normal is mandatory at advanced, new optionals that don't exist in normal are added that are not mandatory.

    What is optional at advanced is mandatory at elite. New optionals that don't exist in advanced are added but they are a still optional not mandatory.
  • catjarrettcatjarrett Member Posts: 285 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    gavinruneblade wrote: »
    What is optional at normal is mandatory at advanced, new optionals that don't exist in normal are added that are not mandatory.

    What is optional at advanced is mandatory at elite. New optionals that don't exist in advanced are added but they are a still optional not mandatory.

    Aaaaah, that makes much sense. Thank you very much!
  • ltminnsltminns Member Posts: 12,572 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    gregkane wrote: »
    Thank you mr cryptic for clarifying i appreciate it. It says in patch notes que marks revamp- doesnt mean dailys gone but sure dont mean they arent if you havnt seen the stealth sneaky nerfs you obviously arent playing same sto as me :) but hopefully u are correct and i am wrong

    Stealth "the act or action of proceeding furtively, secretly, imperceptibly, or unobtrusively"

    By the way "They Call Me MISTER Cryptic! (Apologies to Sidney Poitier).

    I will affirm to you that I am not now nor have I ever been a member of Cryptic, "concealed" or otherwise.

    The point I was making was that a change like removing the Daily Bonus Marks would in no way be imperceptible or unobtrusive and would cause an IMMEDIATE firestorm. If that was to be removed they would announce it in the Patch Notes or through other mechanisms beforehand. Remember when they were first introduced it was discussed in blogs ahead of time and made a main part of the Reputation Revamp.
    'But to be logical is not to be right', and 'nothing' on God's earth could ever 'make it' right!'
    Judge Dan Haywood
    'As l speak now, the words are forming in my head.
    l don't know.
    l really don't know what l'm about to say, except l have a feeling about it.
    That l must repeat the words that come without my knowledge.'
    Lt. Philip J. Minns
  • shurato2099shurato2099 Member Posts: 588 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    gregkane wrote: »
    Reading the patch notes i see they have updated rewards for que missions- no mention of the daily bonus- if any devs read could you clarify is it removed or still there??

    They're still there. I just did CE and the Nukara daily bonus box was an option, as usual.
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