This just in! Due to the exploitive behavior of a few Cryptic has decided to reset all players back to lvl 1! But they assure us, this isn't a bad thing! We get to play all of our favorite missions over again and by the time we reach the Delta quadrant, there will surely be eve newer content to enjoy!
It's hyperbole, not fallacy. They called doing Patrol missions in Tau Dewa exploitative. These are missions designed and put in the game by the devs. Hence, playing the game as it was designed is now considered exploitative and you all should be ashamed for playing STO.
No, no, and naaaaaah.
We'll keep playing. You don't have to if you don't want to. But if you refuse to understand what's what, don't get confused when other people don't get banned or rolled back for doing something totally unrelated to the current situation.
While a single mission might be an issue you can't expect everyone to rush to the new content, especially when the forums explode with comments on exp breaks and hp misadjustments.
No. I expect people logout and not play or level through the Duty Officer system. And complain about slow progress.
It's like this:
You have a vending machine where the price is too high.
I absolutely expect people not to buy at a reasonable rate and the vending machine company to go out of business or adjust.
I absolutely don't expect people to spread a code on how to get free things from the vending machine, nor do I expect that to go without consequence.
I have a problem with that.
The single biggest problem I have with Cryptic is that they've become uncommunicative and admitted upfront that they aren't using the forums or testing as a significant source of feedback.
Cryptic didn't light the match that started the fire here. They doused themselves in gasoline, definitely, and I'm all for calling that out and calling management out on that.
I think we have to be very clear in terms of how we express criticism here. It is not Cryptic's fault that players exploited the system. But they weren't helping any by putting internal goals ahead of customer feedback either and this made the problem worse and it made players more likely to exploit and will continue to proliferate exploiting.
The exploiting needs to stop. Cryptic needs to take a step back from their goals. Both things need to happen, not just one or the other.
Back to playing World of Tanks which is actually designed to be a fun game and fair to players.
Excuse me sir, yes, you. Is getting one shotted by Arties sitting on the other end of the map fun? Is the RNG that's so insanely wild that your can do anywhere from 20-1000 dmg while aiming at the same spot and not even moving fun?
World of Tanks PvP is way better than STO PvP of course, but the grind is huge to get to the higher tiers and the arties and RNG really killed it(not in the good way) IMO.
The devs' error here is a communications and community relations one.
Describing the actions taken by players in the Tau Dewa sector as exploitative is a faux pas.
Loose use of the word "exploit" is disrespectful of players.
They didn't even say that everyone's actions in Tau Dewa was exploitative. They said some plyaers' actions were. I think it's problematic that every player who ground a patrol seems to assume that they were the ones being talked about when, from what I see, it was very specific and very unusual, deliberate actions that resulted in some players seeing massive gains, even beyond what the typical Elite Patrol grinder would have seen.
You know someones gotta be an extreme fanboy to go in numerous threads and defend Cryptic when they have clearly wronged their playerbase. Fanboys are so cool!!!
A single set of missions was circumventing something intended to be longer-term (ship mastery, specializations) in a way no other content in the game can even remotely match. This is out of line with the way the rest of the game behaves. Comparing these broken missions directly to missions that award XP as expected is imbecilic. Your hyperbole is also fallacy, as it is creating a false equivalence. "They're both content you play, there's no difference between an exploit and a mission working as intended!" is basically what you said, isn't it?
Don't get me wrong, Cryptic should have actually done testing on Tribble and caught this long before now and I don't think anyone should be punished, but to deny what we did was exploitative is at the very least dishonest.
To deny that you will defend Cryptic as they *****************************
Edit: Censored due to lame forum rules and threats from fanboys:)
You know someones gotta be an extreme fanboy to go in numerous threads and defend Cryptic when they have clearly wronged their playerbase. Fanboys are so cool!!!
I think Cryptic did some things which showed poor foresight.
But wronged? How were you wronged exactly? You'll have to diagram this for me.
You know someones gotta be an extreme fanboy to go in numerous threads and defend Cryptic when they have clearly wronged their playerbase. Fanboys are so cool!!!
Given that the forum is full of frothing-at-the-mouth "it's all a conspiracy to persecute us!" haters right now, this is a pretty hilarious post.
It is not the responsibility of the player to read Cryptic's mind and decide what is an "exploit" and what is "working as intended"... Hell, Cryptic doesn't even seem to have a set standard for answering that question themselves.
Cryptic answering a question? hahahahahaha you made a funny joke
The only thing legal left is Star Trek Barbies. Fashion show event in ESD, First City, and New Romulus soon. Finalists to compete at DS9. After party hosted at Drozana.
Followed by the meet and greet and RP session at Drozana and DS9, a grand update to all queues rewarding only increasingly revealing yet "still PG13" attire for men and women, and the local Van Darkholm LGBT subgroup will be DJ'ing and putting on shows, while Ferasans and Caitains show you a bit more of their "wild" side. By perform dance moves better than other races of course. Did you think otherwise? Exclusive dance moves and patterns to be release for all Ferasans and Caitians to show up everyone else.
Vulcan NPCs will be event guards; their logic should render them above such extreme partying. Even some Iconians will show up just for the fun, and will give away Iconian warships to winners of the male and female fashion shows, with a nerfed version available to all factions from the C-Store. In addition, all players who stop by the Fashion show event zones will be given free Iconian dress armor and attire. Looking evil has never been so star-stunningly mystical.
For those who aren't interested, play on extreme toasters, or simply don't care for the event itself, there will be clothing bundles in the C-Store to systematically unlock all available clothing options in the game. Additionally, formerly exclusive NPC-only races will be available for purchase, except Borg. Borg is still Lifetime sub-only. However, you can now be a renegade Iconian trying to stop their brethen.
This is an (un)official announcement from the creators of City of Heroes, City of Villains, and Champions Online.
This, is the goal, of narrheehaw It's mission, to destroy new worlds and civilizations
[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC] And to boldly ruin, what no one has ruined before.
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We'll keep playing. You don't have to if you don't want to. But if you refuse to understand what's what, don't get confused when other people don't get banned or rolled back for doing something totally unrelated to the current situation.
Haters gonna hate. :cool:
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No. I expect people logout and not play or level through the Duty Officer system. And complain about slow progress.
It's like this:
You have a vending machine where the price is too high.
I absolutely expect people not to buy at a reasonable rate and the vending machine company to go out of business or adjust.
I absolutely don't expect people to spread a code on how to get free things from the vending machine, nor do I expect that to go without consequence.
I have a problem with that.
The single biggest problem I have with Cryptic is that they've become uncommunicative and admitted upfront that they aren't using the forums or testing as a significant source of feedback.
Cryptic didn't light the match that started the fire here. They doused themselves in gasoline, definitely, and I'm all for calling that out and calling management out on that.
I think we have to be very clear in terms of how we express criticism here. It is not Cryptic's fault that players exploited the system. But they weren't helping any by putting internal goals ahead of customer feedback either and this made the problem worse and it made players more likely to exploit and will continue to proliferate exploiting.
The exploiting needs to stop. Cryptic needs to take a step back from their goals. Both things need to happen, not just one or the other.
Excuse me sir, yes, you. Is getting one shotted by Arties sitting on the other end of the map fun? Is the RNG that's so insanely wild that your can do anywhere from 20-1000 dmg while aiming at the same spot and not even moving fun?
World of Tanks PvP is way better than STO PvP of course, but the grind is huge to get to the higher tiers and the arties and RNG really killed it(not in the good way) IMO.
The devs' error here is a communications and community relations one.
Describing the actions taken by players in the Tau Dewa sector as exploitative is a faux pas.
Loose use of the word "exploit" is disrespectful of players.
They didn't even say that everyone's actions in Tau Dewa was exploitative. They said some plyaers' actions were. I think it's problematic that every player who ground a patrol seems to assume that they were the ones being talked about when, from what I see, it was very specific and very unusual, deliberate actions that resulted in some players seeing massive gains, even beyond what the typical Elite Patrol grinder would have seen.
You know someones gotta be an extreme fanboy to go in numerous threads and defend Cryptic when they have clearly wronged their playerbase. Fanboys are so cool!!!
To deny that you will defend Cryptic as they *****************************
Edit: Censored due to lame forum rules and threats from fanboys:)
I think Cryptic did some things which showed poor foresight.
But wronged? How were you wronged exactly? You'll have to diagram this for me.
http://sto-forum.perfectworld.com/showthread.php?t=1269341
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Given that the forum is full of frothing-at-the-mouth "it's all a conspiracy to persecute us!" haters right now, this is a pretty hilarious post.
http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/FanHater
http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/HateDumb
http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/AccentuateTheNegative
http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/DarthWiki/RuinedFOREVER
Cryptic answering a question? hahahahahaha you made a funny joke
The funny part is .....its all true :eek:
Followed by the meet and greet and RP session at Drozana and DS9, a grand update to all queues rewarding only increasingly revealing yet "still PG13" attire for men and women, and the local Van Darkholm LGBT subgroup will be DJ'ing and putting on shows, while Ferasans and Caitains show you a bit more of their "wild" side. By perform dance moves better than other races of course. Did you think otherwise? Exclusive dance moves and patterns to be release for all Ferasans and Caitians to show up everyone else.
Vulcan NPCs will be event guards; their logic should render them above such extreme partying. Even some Iconians will show up just for the fun, and will give away Iconian warships to winners of the male and female fashion shows, with a nerfed version available to all factions from the C-Store. In addition, all players who stop by the Fashion show event zones will be given free Iconian dress armor and attire. Looking evil has never been so star-stunningly mystical.
For those who aren't interested, play on extreme toasters, or simply don't care for the event itself, there will be clothing bundles in the C-Store to systematically unlock all available clothing options in the game. Additionally, formerly exclusive NPC-only races will be available for purchase, except Borg. Borg is still Lifetime sub-only. However, you can now be a renegade Iconian trying to stop their brethen.
This is an (un)official announcement from the creators of City of Heroes, City of Villains, and Champions Online.
Kill the body and the weak will die!
It's mission, to destroy new worlds and civilizations
[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
And to boldly ruin, what no one has ruined before.
This. /10characters
That's all I'm going to do.
Delta Rising should be called "Hit point Bag" Rising, Attack of the Grinders.