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Playing thru Delta on my Klingon and Imperial Romulan (not part of that fauxpublic) and its very incongruous. All the missions are just too nice and helpful. Personally I think this is the best time to take out the Federation since they are spread out so thin dealing with the Voth and inferior Delta Quadrant species.
And don't we Romulans have a treaty with the Hirogen?
And don't we Romulans have a treaty with the Hirogen?
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Also today I decided to replay the Temporal Ambassador mission, and Tasha kept saying that I'm a starfleet officer. I wish I could grab her and shout in her face "I AM NOT STARFLEET, I SIMPLY HAVE AN ALLIANCE WITH THEM!!!" :mad:
Is it time the Romulans/Remans break away with their own faction? :rolleyes:
Starfleet is the only faction the Delta Quadrant has any exposure to. Janeway was (for better or for worse... mostly worse) their only first impression of what the Alpha/Beta Quadrants consist of. They have no idea what a Klingon or a Romulan is.
Also, the Romulans do not have a treaty with the Hirogen as a whole. The Romulan Star Empire had a treaty with some of the Hirogen hunters to use their territories as hunting ground. That treaty is likely up in the air after Empress Sela's disappearance.
You're thinking of the Tal Shiar. The Republic (i.e. you, whatever roleplay you choose to play out) does not.
Klingons would not be well disposed to help out all these weak and pitiful species on the other side of the galaxy
Its worse as a Romulan than a Klingon since we Romulans are not very fond of inferior alien species to begin with and aren't the freaking Red Cross. We should have never cleared the radiation, sent the Talaxians packing, cleaned it up and claimed New Talaxia for the Star Empire!
Star Trek is about Starfleet. Get over it.
When will you learn that you can't get what you want?
The Romulans that you wish to play as don't exist as a playable option for a reason, if you've been paying attention at all to the story. Just because you've seen them acting that way always on screen doesn't mean that they're all like that. Look at how D'Tan reacted to Captain Picard and Spock. Did he feel they were inferior to himself? No. These Romulans are the ones that the Empire has been telling them to act so and so for years. They don't want that anymore, but they don't want to do the same to others.
The Romulans that you want to play as are currently being manipulated by the Iconians. Either man up and face it, or find another game.
If it makes you feel better, I think the Klinks are the best secondaries in the StarTrek universe.
You're part of the Republic whether you like it or not, deal with it.
You can RP otherwise, but the missions will never, ever be geared towards you.
Again. Deal with it.
It's pretty much this hard to keep just one timeline intact. ♪
Ive been Klingon since the Orginal Beta. Regardless of the unforgivable take on Romulans, much of the content is not Klingon appropriate either. There is no honor in being a liberated borg or reanimated corpse.
This. You cannot expect the game to cater to your specific roleplay under any circumstances. As far as the story is concerned, you are a Republic Romulan. As such, when you play story missions, you must expect to be treated accordingly.
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Roleplaying != Missions.
My crew is outfitted in Relativity uniforms. They fly in a timeship with all the temporal gimmicks (and if they add more temporal gimmicks, I'll add them to the ship even at the cost of firepower or viability). They are all equipped with Ultra-Rare Mk XIV Relativity rifles. Whenever possible, I try to make them species (or look like species) who are not in the present day Federation.
Cardassian Captain. Reman Medic. Telaxian Intelligence officer.
I appreciate the couple of missions that adapt to recognize that I'm flying a timeship. (City on the Edge of Never does.) And by and large, Romulans and Klingons and certain species do get similar adaptations for flavor and sometimes to acknowledge personality differences.
But while I may be a timeship captain in my head, the game isn't going to completely change for that.
In terms of game and mission mechanics, you are an at least grudgingly peace-loving Romulan or Klingon. The missions give you various chances not to be enthusiastic about peace but you're part of a fleet where your superior has placed you under Tuvok's command here.
Now when you're off in a social zone? Maybe it's best not to think about what you did in those missions.
The missions are what *A* hero captain does. If they don't suit your vision of your captain, don't count them. Write or play Foundry missions that suit your vision and, if they're popular, devs will probably make similar content. A LOT of what they're doing now seems to be at least vaguely inspired by the types of things done in the more popular Foundry missions. I don't know that the Foundry is necessarily the bleeding edge of anything anymore (although when it comes back, expect jetpack combat missions) but when it launched, I think the devs definitely sat up and took notes on the kinds of things they could do and what "worked" better for hardcore Trek fans in general.
It's really emphasized, I think, ground gameplay having a bit more (light) puzzle focus in confined spaces with gratuitous ship battles spliced in that deviate more from a straight kill 5 style by having asymmetrical encounter placements. (If you scan 5 satellites and get ambushed 5 times, that's predictable.) The insane plot twists you see in DR and LoR also feel more like Foundry missions as well.
So I think if you support the content or style of content you like where it exists, they will make more at Cryptic. Granted, they will probably make it for everyone.
But if Star Trek 3 comes out and has Klingons and Klingons become hot and Klingon Foundry missions take off, I'd fully expect Cryptic to do a Klingon themed expansion. And that would mean Federation and Romulan players doing very Klingon things for awhile because the content would be developed for everyone.
If Intelligence/spy stuff gets received well, expect a swath of spy missions where everybody is generally going to be pushed towards (not necessarily INTO but towards) sneaky missions and assassination-type intrigue.
Content is going to be developed for everyone. There may be places where your character can note their perspective (and I think that's constructive feedback here when people note specific places where an added dialogue option would work). But that's not necessarily going to mean you can just change the whole direction of the mission.
Maybe they could do more to add the "only good Borg is a dead Borg" perspective here. It was certainly Sisko and Picard's perspective. But even if they add those dialogue choices, you're still going to be forced by your faction into helping build an alliance that works with the Cooperative. And your character will be treated as incorrect for taking that attitude towards the Cooperative since there's basically an editorial position taken by the game that is (mostly) pro-Cooperative.
No, Sela does. Sames species, two different political entities.
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My Klingon has no problems with either. Once the proper wake has been held, a warrior's body is no longer important. The Warrior has gone to Sto'vo'kor. The body is an empty shell. If you bury it, nature will find a way to reuse it for new life. The Kobali may not be nature at work in the strictest sense, of course, but they still achieve a similar end goal - and bringing new life into the world is never a dishonour - of course, that new life must then prove itself and be judged on its own merits.
And liberated Borg are in a difficult position - they have lived as a drone, a creature without any honor or freedom of will. A good warriors duty is to restore his honour, and forming a community to liberate more Borg from a life without honour and meaning seems a very reasonable way to do it.
I may be wrong, since I've only been playing STO since 2012, but I do not believe the Klingons were added to STO until PvP was introduced. Which wasn't part of the Beta, IIRC. So how could you have been playing a Klingon in STO before there were Klingons in STO?
Makes the rest of your statements highly suspect.
Klingons were released at the start of the game, together with PvP. You could start playing them once you got a 5th level Starfleet character originally, IIRC. Later they increased the minimuim level for KDF, and then they eventualyl brought it back to Level 1.
But since release, you could always play KDF or play PvP. (And PvP was basically the only realistic way of levelling a KDF player. Today, it's basically impossible to use PvP for levelling...). I don't know when exactly in Beta they were added, of course.
I'm now picturing Captain Kirk and crew lost in the Delta Quadrant. Now, for that to even happen, you'd pretty much have to have Scotty and Spock get taken out in the first episode because they'd have the ship home in one episode. And you also have to assume that Kirk wouldn't just violate the Prime Directive to get his people home and succeed on the first or second try.
But I have a feeling that in the event where Kirk had to come home the long way, you'd probably have a LOT of cultures gunning for the heads of the Federation, assuming the Delta Quadrant wasn't in a state of civil war.
And I was about to make the joke that half of their kids would look like Captain Kirk but then I remembered that Voyager was the height of the rubber mask alien era of Star Trek and that most of the attractive women were actually on Voyager's crew; that's actually one line Kirk didn't typically cross (dating the crew under his command was Riker's thing).
So... Er... I'm actually thinking the Delta Quadrant journey would have probably sent Kirk into a stable, committed relationship with Kes. She was into Paris. Paris is Kirk Lite. I don't see Kirk chasing Talaxian or Kazon women. So there you go. Kes still tragically dies but then the only other woman I see Kirk falling for in the whole journey would be Seven of Nine and Amelia Earhart. Okay. Maybe the Borg Queen. Really, it would be hilarious for Kirk to try to defeat the Borg by making out with the Queen, likely while Scotty and Spock unplug the rest of the Collective somehow.
Sarcasm aside. I see no reason why a Developer that works on the storyline and NPC Dialogue couldnt correct some of the blaring issues regarding Klingon and Romulan interactions with NPCs. Its not like the Dev that writes this stuff is the same Dev that goes in and rewrites code.
But sure. Keep being a smart*** and trying to derail threads. Not like youre being counter-productive and a waste of space on the forums or anything.
Cause all the missions... Was plain Pew pew pew all the way...
Sure, there was some chat along the way, but in the end, I solved things the Klingon way... PEW PEW PEW.
The Klingons and Romulan Republic are part of the Alliance. Unlike you weren't the Iconians sex-slaves like the Tal Shiar.
Isn't that what the crew on our ships is for ?
Klingons didnt suddenly learn manners and respect for all Species because they signed a piece of paper. Theyre still hot-blooded war-raging jerks. And as for the Romulans, they may not be the Empire but they are still Romulans and when people play as them. They expect a certain amount of Romulan Behavior/personality to shine through.
The Feds get preferable treatment BECAUSE they are STO, the KDF and Romulan factions are now defacto Fed because of the alliance made in 'Surface tension'. We just don't get the gear, and the feds already have our good stuff. We're less than second class players now. Assimulate to the feds side or die.
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Now shaddup about the queues, it's a BUG
The Klingon's just recently witnessed a large chunk of their high counsel rendered non-existant by an Iconian's hand wave..... and the old order Romulans erradicated their entire home world. These are not the people you're used to. Sure they may be a bit hot headed.... but I never believed either the Romulans or Klingons are idiots. The alliance is far more than a piece of paper.