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kazon heavy raider t5-u?

dmantacosdmantacos Member Posts: 0 Arc User
edited November 2014 in Star Trek Online General Discussion
I was lucky enough to obtain a kazon heavy raider through a lockbox requisition and i read that all lockbox, lobi, and lifetime ships would be eligible for upgrade free of charge but when i go to the ship req station it says i must purchase a token before upgrading it, even though it was obtained from a lockbox. plz help
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  • markhawkmanmarkhawkman Member Posts: 35,236 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    Yeah... not that one. It's T5. good ship though, very flexible. But you need a token to upgrade it.

    Why? It's a lot more common than the grand prize ship. Last I heard they were less than 3 mill.
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  • jarodroto123jarodroto123 Member Posts: 1,337 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    markhawkman wrote: »
    Yeah... not that one. It's T5. good ship though, very flexible. But you need a token to upgrade it.

    Why? It's a lot more common than the grand prize ship. Last I heard they were less than 3 mill.
    currently hovering around 1 mil
  • c0nd1t10nr3dc0nd1t10nr3d Member Posts: 638 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    I just snapped one up for 500k! The next after that was 1mil... I got lucky I guess, for now. By next week they might be selling for 250k or less... who knows? lol
  • breadandcircusesbreadandcircuses Member Posts: 2,355 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    dmantacos wrote: »
    I was lucky enough to obtain a kazon heavy raider through a lockbox requisition and i read that all lockbox, lobi, and lifetime ships would be eligible for upgrade free of charge but when i go to the ship req station it says i must purchase a token before upgrading it, even though it was obtained from a lockbox. plz help

    That is accurate. You do need to purchase an Upgrade since the Kazon Raider is the substitute for the Mirror Universe ships in the Delta Expedition Lock Box... it's much more common than the Grand Prize of a Benthan Assault Cruiser, which is also T6-11. It's sort of a bonus that you can Upgrade the Kazon Raider to T5-U, though it does still cost Zen to do so, since at present none of the Mirror Universe ships have that option.

    If it's a Fed captain, you might compare the Aquarius options as well, since that is now a Raider. It's a bit more nimble and a bit more flexible than the Kazon Raider, has a Fleet T5-10 that turns into a T5-U11, and trades less hull for more shields. If you have to pay for the Upgrade, you might as well pay for the one that suits your fancy a bit more. ;)
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  • svindal777svindal777 Member Posts: 856 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    jarodroto123 wrote: »
    currently hovering around 1 mil

    That is what convinced me to just unbox mine.

    Pretty good little ship, even at T5. Looks ridiculous with the borg set.
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  • shpoksshpoks Member Posts: 6,967 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    svindal777 wrote: »
    That is what convinced me to just unbox mine.

    Pretty good little ship, even at T5. Looks ridiculous with the borg set.

    Got mine for 400k EC on the first day of "Delta Rising". Best 400k I've ever spent in STO.
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  • cmctbcmctb Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited November 2014
    Just wondering if anyone has upgraded one to t5u and found it worthwhile. I am a new federation captain and love my patrol escort but I need a ship that I can upgrade to t5u.

    With a better turn rate but lower crew and shield modifier, one less rear weapon but gains the raider flanking 25% bonus so there is a trade off. At t5u I'd pick up an engineer console so I would end up with +1 science console, +5k hull and the Raider Starship Ability Package over my current escort.

    Any helpful opinions would be appreciated, thanks!
  • omgbamf00omgbamf00 Member Posts: 97 Arc User
    edited November 2014
    cmctb wrote: »
    Just wondering if anyone has upgraded one to t5u and found it worthwhile. I am a new federation captain and love my patrol escort but I need a ship that I can upgrade to t5u.

    With a better turn rate but lower crew and shield modifier, one less rear weapon but gains the raider flanking 25% bonus so there is a trade off. At t5u I'd pick up an engineer console so I would end up with +1 science console, +5k hull and the Raider Starship Ability Package over my current escort.

    Any helpful opinions would be appreciated, thanks!

    I have it upgraded on my Fed and it does great. The mastery traits are a solid bonus to it, and it's a lot of fun to fly. It's like a wannabe BoP minus the cloak (hence why I have it on my Fed). Awesome turn rate and high speeds are its strengths, and it needs to be flown as such imo.

    edit- It must be stated that you absolutely cannot fly this thing like an escort. Hit and run tactics on the flank of vulnerable targets... and always keep moving.
  • ironmakoironmako Member Posts: 770 Arc User
    edited November 2014
    I think this will help. I just found the announcement of the DR info with the following information:

    "** The Kazon Heavy Raider may be upgraded to T5-U with the use of a Ship Upgrade Token."

    Here is the link to it.

    http://www.arcgames.com/en/games/star-trek-online/news/detail/7010383-delta-expedition-lock-box
  • cmctbcmctb Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited November 2014
    omgbamf00 wrote: »
    edit- It must be stated that you absolutely cannot fly this thing like an escort. Hit and run tactics on the flank of vulnerable targets... and always keep moving.

    Thank you for the input, I see they are at 400k on the exchange atm and probably going lower so I'll most likely buy one to test it.

    I currently use cannons on my escort, would you suggest I switch to beam arrays for "hit and run" mobility?
  • omgbamf00omgbamf00 Member Posts: 97 Arc User
    edited November 2014
    cmctb wrote: »
    Thank you for the input, I see they are at 400k on the exchange atm and probably going lower so I'll most likely buy one to test it.

    I currently use cannons on my escort, would you suggest I switch to beam arrays for "hit and run" mobility?

    Nah, the turn rate is so high that cannons are preferable imo, and you want to keep attacks focused on flanks for +25% dmg. With a high enough turn rate, you can effectively stay on their flanks while going full speed to keep def bonus up. If you're good enough to time your cannon cycles, you can theoretically unleash a volley, do 360/wide turns to keep distance, fire again, repeat... all the while at full throttle.
  • ironmakoironmako Member Posts: 770 Arc User
    edited November 2014
    I've loaded all cannons as well, as the turn rate is very good.

    I've tested the maneuverability, but haven't got round to testing it in battle, but will do first thing tomorrow on an MU run. I shall report my findings here :)
  • lystentlystent Member Posts: 1,019
    edited November 2014
    markhawkman wrote: »
    Yeah... not that one. It's T5. good ship though, very flexible. But you need a token to upgrade it.

    Why? It's a lot more common than the grand prize ship. Last I heard they were less than 3 mill.

    I got two for a mill each.
  • omgbamf00omgbamf00 Member Posts: 97 Arc User
    edited November 2014
    lystent wrote: »
    I got two for a mill each.

    The prices for these have been all over the place. I have 2 spares and was consistently looking at the exchange prices for them. One day I saw averages of ~3 mil, the next day they were as low as 300k.

    Go figure.
  • cmctbcmctb Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited November 2014
    omgbamf00 wrote: »
    The prices for these have been all over the place. I have 2 spares and was consistently looking at the exchange prices for them. One day I saw averages of ~3 mil, the next day they were as low as 300k.

    Go figure.

    I noted today there were 13 on the market this morning that were ranging between 420 and 450. I only really have 400 to spare atm so I waited. Checked again this afternoon and still 13 on the market but they were all at 500k. Pretty sure someone just bought em and marked em up.

    Thanks all for the input.
  • omgbamf00omgbamf00 Member Posts: 97 Arc User
    edited November 2014
    cmctb wrote: »
    I noted today there were 13 on the market this morning that were ranging between 420 and 450. I only really have 400 to spare atm so I waited. Checked again this afternoon and still 13 on the market but they were all at 500k. Pretty sure someone just bought em and marked em up.

    Thanks all for the input.

    No prob. Don't forget, however, that you will still need a ship upgrade token after to get it to T-5U. Those are currently sitting at 9 mil. each, or 700 zen (2000z for a 4 pack).
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