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If the story was any good. and i might be ok for a fed player but a KDF Klingon we are fighting the wrong people over there.
the kobali are holding inocent vaadwaur hostage in stasis tube just waiting for them to die so they can use the bodies. i side with the vaadwaur in this we are fighting the wrong people. we shoudl help the vaadwaur. And starfleet is fine with this it seems. "we are not here to change the people but to protect them" wow belive that **** they hold people hostage in stasis tubes and the federation is fine with that. and they already know those people were not the warriors they were scientist and such at least thats what the info says when you scan the tubes. this is below low.
at every point where a choice should be made on who to support the game forces us to choose the federation stand point and they get it wrong on every account. even the cooperative borg vrs ocanti patrol mission. we are forced to choose and support the borg. i agree with ocanti they will turn on us in the end. even the borgs message of thanks at end of patrol mission ( wich sucks all that fighting and no xp per ship disabled) the borg clearly states that they belive the collective is of greater value than a single life, and any trek fan knows this is vulcan logic BS Kirk and crew proved that when they rescued spok. the needs of the many do not always outweigh the needs of the few or the one. and this is why Kirk was the BEST federation captain ever. and even respected by Klingons. basically it boils down to utopia loving feddy bears being so nieve to belive the coop will never decide that their own existence is of more value than some lesser species based solely on number. take the talaxians on the new home world they stole from somebody. when the coop finds it and decides they need a home planet whats to stop them from just moving in. since they clearly believe the many are worth more than the one. its all liberal federation propaganda BS.
Even the Choices we are forced to make get all those stupid talaxians killed , if i had been able to decide i would have agreed right off the bat with the vaadwuar. no idea how they are going to play this out but on a case by case issue i just feel ashamed to be a Klingon in these missions.
I hear tons of people gripe about the difficulty personally its not too bad for me boring as all get out just sit there (yes sit no reason to fly around) even on elite to get the extra xp they are not hurting me. so i park and pew pew them till i get the green light to move on and do another . but It is the story that so many seem to be ok with that is driving me nuts.
and in a side note i see now why my foundry mission was removed months ago with no reason as to why. many of my ideas were stolen for this expansion. mine had Klingon's enter the delta quadrant via the fludic space to find the Klingon colony marooned there by Voyager. having to scan for anomalies just like the current missions. along with a list of other tasks that were directly taken from my mission. even the Patrols only in my mission the patrols were optional side quest called Hunts instead of patrol mission. and i had an entire system of planets that had to be explored and scanned and what ever different for each. all removed no explanation why.
the kobali are holding inocent vaadwaur hostage in stasis tube just waiting for them to die so they can use the bodies. i side with the vaadwaur in this we are fighting the wrong people. we shoudl help the vaadwaur. And starfleet is fine with this it seems. "we are not here to change the people but to protect them" wow belive that **** they hold people hostage in stasis tubes and the federation is fine with that. and they already know those people were not the warriors they were scientist and such at least thats what the info says when you scan the tubes. this is below low.
at every point where a choice should be made on who to support the game forces us to choose the federation stand point and they get it wrong on every account. even the cooperative borg vrs ocanti patrol mission. we are forced to choose and support the borg. i agree with ocanti they will turn on us in the end. even the borgs message of thanks at end of patrol mission ( wich sucks all that fighting and no xp per ship disabled) the borg clearly states that they belive the collective is of greater value than a single life, and any trek fan knows this is vulcan logic BS Kirk and crew proved that when they rescued spok. the needs of the many do not always outweigh the needs of the few or the one. and this is why Kirk was the BEST federation captain ever. and even respected by Klingons. basically it boils down to utopia loving feddy bears being so nieve to belive the coop will never decide that their own existence is of more value than some lesser species based solely on number. take the talaxians on the new home world they stole from somebody. when the coop finds it and decides they need a home planet whats to stop them from just moving in. since they clearly believe the many are worth more than the one. its all liberal federation propaganda BS.
Even the Choices we are forced to make get all those stupid talaxians killed , if i had been able to decide i would have agreed right off the bat with the vaadwuar. no idea how they are going to play this out but on a case by case issue i just feel ashamed to be a Klingon in these missions.
I hear tons of people gripe about the difficulty personally its not too bad for me boring as all get out just sit there (yes sit no reason to fly around) even on elite to get the extra xp they are not hurting me. so i park and pew pew them till i get the green light to move on and do another . but It is the story that so many seem to be ok with that is driving me nuts.
and in a side note i see now why my foundry mission was removed months ago with no reason as to why. many of my ideas were stolen for this expansion. mine had Klingon's enter the delta quadrant via the fludic space to find the Klingon colony marooned there by Voyager. having to scan for anomalies just like the current missions. along with a list of other tasks that were directly taken from my mission. even the Patrols only in my mission the patrols were optional side quest called Hunts instead of patrol mission. and i had an entire system of planets that had to be explored and scanned and what ever different for each. all removed no explanation why.
Trophies for killing FEDS ahh those were the days. 
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I don't have the option of killing neelix. I don't have the option of killing the kobali. Don't get me started on neelix, those episodes are horrible. I almost rather watch jar jar binks, then have to play that again.
Now i found my KDF toon in those missions sounding like a Fed talking about the prospect of peace throughout the Delta quardrant... which i've found myself saying WTF? my toon is a KDF Joined Trill Warrior that's labelled as the ''Scrouge of Starfleet'' not some sort of Fed Peacemaker Pe'taQ that defends inferior subspecies that can't even defend thsemselfs from a Species that started with 900 year old inferior tech when they woke up and 30 years later improves themself to be better so they can get revenge on the races that put them into near extiction...
My toon is a Warrior of the Klingon Empire, not the policemen ~ Guardians of the Galaxy... my toons job is to defend the interest of the Empire, not play Starfleet's game of defending inferior species then absorb them later into their Federation which itself is a wannabe Borg Collective in their own right and itself a subtle agressive form of conquest.
....but this is star trek- either you're federation, or a tool to be used. SSDD
Awoken Dead
Now shaddup about the queues, it's a BUG
But we also have to be pragmatic; our fight against the Vaudwaar, while glorious, is mismatched in their favor (which is unacceptable). Asking for help from other races solidifies our victory, and strengthens our relationships with other races to do so, and helps arm us with information for possible future expansion/conquering.
Blindly attacking everything that moves gains the Empire nothing.
Been playing STO since Open Beta, and have never regarded anything as worse than 'meh', if only due to personal standards.
As for the claims by the Vaadwaur that the Kobani are 'harvesting' their people below the surface, we shall see. If this is true much will change brother - much will change. But the vaadwaur are not honorable, as all of our interactions have shown. The use deceit even the Tal Shiar could not muster, especially when honesty would show their true courage.
I don't count the reman as Romulans, they're as much slaves to the federation as the KDF are. Yes, the events of surface tension still haunt me, when one Romulan ship appears at our call for help then promptly disappears in the heat of battle. I still remember seeing Romulans in the great hall , drinking and celebrating with us as if their honorable sacrifice actually meant something.
...Bet they warped off to Starbucks while the alliance fought for the Klingon homeworld, and decided to rejoin the victors when they had finished their drinks. Thank Kah'less for them, right ?
:cool:
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Awoken Dead
Now shaddup about the queues, it's a BUG
I aid them because it is my mission, but If I could I'd lay waste to their capital by way of orbital bombardment.
I was unsettled by them already in Voyager, but seeing as how they are trying to hold the Vaadwuar hostage for their own perverted needs and refuse to return them to their people... well thats just not right.
The Vaadwuar aren't saints, but neither are the Kobali.
I'm with Harry Kim on this one.
Felt like I'm some kind of fed's employee when doing the missions, it looks ridiculous.
The issue stems that most of the new feature missions have 2 POVs.
1. Pure Federation POV.
2. Almost Pure Federation POV.
Almost all missions since STO released are like this. The missions are designed with a Fed perspective then have mild word changes to make them "passable" as KDF and now Rom missions.
The changes are as innovative as changing the words "Admiral" to "General." It's quite clever writing, I must say. Hell, for the Romulans, they don't even have to do that, since they still use the term Admiral.
The worst, absolutely vanilla example are the Dominion arc missions. Those are terribad.
It's was also rather ironic to be using Theta radiation from my console to disable Malon ships and prevent them from spreading Theta radiation...
See that sounds more like an Early Series Klingon , before they got turned into space barbarians , and I agree with the sentiment
Yeah, just like you spend a whole story arc trying to prevent the Remans from getting their hands on thalaron weaponry, followed a few episodes of lecturing Obisek that "Thalaron is bad, m'mkay?" only to go to the shipyard and pick up thalaron capable Scimitar yourself.:rolleyes:
Yeah kinda like the story for DR says there are only like 500 of them left but you laugh when you get that accolade 1000 vaadwaur killed lol.
I think that for the writer of the story the only way to get out of it is to declare vaadwaur for other servants of the Iconians . Neither would surprise me , they have pretty similar history , they both conquer many worlds , but then they were overwhelmed by a coalition of races subjugated worlds, for a long time they hide , so they went back and gained former glory.
Bah! Let the Kobali grant a second chance at Sto'vo'kor to those that die toothless and mewling in their beds; it's still a better fate than wasting away in Gre'thor. I can accept their strange ways of honoring the dead so long as they respect our ways and leave our fallen Warriors in peace. Let them have the fallen of the House of Torg, and those Prisoners that never make it to the Labor Battalion... we have no need of such waste within the Empire anyway. If the Kobali can make something better of them, so be it.
As to the Vaaduar... they have lost their honor in their quest for vengeance. A Warrior regains nothing by slaughtering a cook or janitor when insulted! A Warrior finds honor in challenging those that insulted them, and defeating them in glorious battle. A daring raid, a strike against other Warriors, a fight to the death... but to take out ones anger on a mere cook? Pathetic! The only honor they have is that granted to those that defeat them in combat, for while they are deceitful, they are also strong... a worthy foe for the Klingon Empire.
Commanding Officer: Captain Pyotr Ramonovich Amosov
Dedication Plaque: "Nil Intentatum Reliquit"
except your idea of honor is based on terran ideas. who is to say what theirs is? and i dont recall them ever saying anything about honor like the Klingons do. they were clearly an aggressive species and thats fine. reminds me more of Cardassians. but as far as the battle on Kobali prime is concerned it isnt about revenge its a battle for liberation of their captured people. Probably something the feds would even do. while us Klingons say the captured are jsut that. and the dishonor was allowing themselves to be caught only way to regain that honor is kill the enemy and escape . not sit and wait for a rescue like a baby.
but the Vaadwaur issue is a little different the species is die off. limited numbers and those people were in stasis tubes not actually captured. but are now prevented from be awakened by other vaadwaur because the kobali are waiting for them to die to increase there own numbers, and not telling people why the Vaadwaur are attacking them so relentlessly.
now for a species like the vaadwaur and even the Klingons your so called no honor for killing a cook is BS to Klingons even the cook is a warrior. maybe the vaadwaur feel the same way. to me as a human i know anybody even minors can pick up a weapon. if im fighting a war im going to fight to win and collateral damage is not my fault it is the fault of the aggressor.
So you want to be slaves?
If they complain about their dwindling numbers then we should remind them that it was they who tried to cross the Klingon Empire and now they must face the consequences.