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So... when X2 doesn't do as well as LoR, will Cryptic learn?
teknesia
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Seriously, as a player that returned and has now left, I can't see how Delta Rising will be the success that Cryptic had with LoR. What do you think? Do you think they will look back at the reasons LoR was a success and learn or do you think Cryptic will just putter along and try and squeeze whatever it can out of the handful of people stupid enough to chunk out 27-30+ bucks for sub-par digital purchases?
Well, if Cryptic does care and wants to read later on... here's some thoughts
- I can't get into DR as a returning player because all the playable content leading up to DR is locked behind months and months of rep grinds.
- I can't get behind DR because the old ships are made sub-par. An upgrade to make your ship still sub-par costs 700 zen. Yeah, it's only seven bucks, but that's seven dollars spent on an already expensive investment.
- I wanted to get behind DR with some new ships, but the new ships are so... uninspired. They look like the same old TRIBBLE without windows. ****, their even more curvy (for whatever reason that would actually be necessary in space) than TNG era TRIBBLE. You race motorbikes on tron with things like those, you don't explore distant worlds and seek out life and new civilizations in those.
- Most expansions for other games costs around 10-20 dollars. By making the new ships either $30 individually or 130+ altogether, STO has priced itself out of the market for a sub-par expac.
- yes, I know that the new missions are free. But content is more than that. Content is the act of progression as well part of which requires one of the new ships. Oh, you don't have to buy anything? Time is money as well. I would suspect most people are like me where they work enough and barely have time as it is. Time is money and a video game should not be a second job either.
Go ahead fan boys, rip me up or what have you. I'm done for a while or until Cryptic comes out with a ship I like for a reasonable price (that'll happen when Cryptic understands the role of ships as actually characters in the game and not just gear). Maybe they'll wake up and give the KDF some interesting options that don't make me wonder what stone age caveman came up with those space faring vehicles(i.e. a decent science ship that isn't gated behind a box). Here's giving my money to a game that doesn't suck.
Well, if Cryptic does care and wants to read later on... here's some thoughts
- I can't get into DR as a returning player because all the playable content leading up to DR is locked behind months and months of rep grinds.
- I can't get behind DR because the old ships are made sub-par. An upgrade to make your ship still sub-par costs 700 zen. Yeah, it's only seven bucks, but that's seven dollars spent on an already expensive investment.
- I wanted to get behind DR with some new ships, but the new ships are so... uninspired. They look like the same old TRIBBLE without windows. ****, their even more curvy (for whatever reason that would actually be necessary in space) than TNG era TRIBBLE. You race motorbikes on tron with things like those, you don't explore distant worlds and seek out life and new civilizations in those.
- Most expansions for other games costs around 10-20 dollars. By making the new ships either $30 individually or 130+ altogether, STO has priced itself out of the market for a sub-par expac.
- yes, I know that the new missions are free. But content is more than that. Content is the act of progression as well part of which requires one of the new ships. Oh, you don't have to buy anything? Time is money as well. I would suspect most people are like me where they work enough and barely have time as it is. Time is money and a video game should not be a second job either.
Go ahead fan boys, rip me up or what have you. I'm done for a while or until Cryptic comes out with a ship I like for a reasonable price (that'll happen when Cryptic understands the role of ships as actually characters in the game and not just gear). Maybe they'll wake up and give the KDF some interesting options that don't make me wonder what stone age caveman came up with those space faring vehicles(i.e. a decent science ship that isn't gated behind a box). Here's giving my money to a game that doesn't suck.
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Vin Naftero@playhard88 - FED Sciencie
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Argento@playhard88 - RRF Tactical (FED)
The entire storyline behind why anyone bothers to go to Delta quadrant again is gated behind rep grinds
if your gonna lie at least do it well.
if I stop posting it doesn't make you right it. just means I don't have enough rum to continue interacting with you.
Well to be honest I'm still holding judgement, but all the PVE Content i can see right now is 17 new Missions ... thats less than half of LoR ... so I'm pretty disappointed right now ... this might change, if these Missions are an superb 1h+ experience ...
... I hope that's that's the case with all the talk about people not being able to "rush through content" ...
Yup Craptic as killed sto. it's only a matter of time
Almost all of which are dictated by the man in charge. Cryptic won't learn until he's ousted. That simply won't happen, though.
But in the end we're only the tax-payer
I call it, the Stoutes paradox.
You guys really need to start voing on what killed STO because last time I heard season 6,7,8,9, LOR killed STO
Except you have to pay Taxes
I hope that's the case ... but I'm still waiting for Club 47 which was supposed to be included in Season 9 etc etc etc ... => wouldn't suprise me if that's all of Delta Rising ... with lots of "Soon TM" - Talk to be put aside for something completely different in Season 10 ...
Cryptic : "But that's not all of Season / Exp XY" = Reality : "Sorry that's it guys, maybe something remotely related within the next year"
the other's were recoverable. but this? THEY HAVE REALLY SCREWED UP!
Doooooooooooooom
The entire reason why the New Romulus has a gate, rep grind.
FE
Explanation as to why we care about Dyson Sphere, rep grind.
FEs
Explanation of the war with the war with the Undine while we are at the border of the delta quadrant, rep grind.
The entire prelude to giving a TRIBBLE about the delta quadrant which is based on the open gates is pretty much all in the rep grinds. Yeah, you can get the basic framework by just playing the FEs, but it just feels like there's a lost missing without taking on a second job with Star Trek Online.
That's what they always say, I'll believe it when i see the end.
Where do you get this? NONE of the story lines is gated by a rep. Just run the story arc in the episodes list, and your done. No rep grind required.
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@ren_larreck
wait I thought it was lockboxes that killed STO
Let us explore it... together. Each man hides a secret pain. It must be exposed and reckoned with. It must be dragged from the darkness and forced into the light. Share your pain. Share your pain with me... and gain strength from the sharing.
You know what? GTFO. Appologists like you and yes-men that say Cryptic can do no wrong are why we're in this mess. You create a feedback loop and of course it's what Cryptic wants to hear so they only see what they want.
EVERYTHING put forth today is a valid concern. A SIGNIFICANT set of problems has literally made the game unplayable and unprogressable for many (most) of the playerbase. Almost all dil is gone. Dil requirements are through the roof. Difficulty is astronomical to the point of being absurd when lies were told that it would remain the same. As a playerbase we have a limited amount of trust and it has all be ripped from us recently. This DR is beyond the last straw that broke the camel's back.
You saying "dooooooom" makes you nothing more than a heel. You're a tool for Cryptic. Open your mind and think for yourself. You'll see why we're upset. Use your free will.
What I'm saying is that I can't see how a returning player would find this alluring. Maybe some of them will, but this isn't the grand story telling and leveling experience that LoR was. Plus, LoR with the little Starer pack felt like it had some monetary options that didn't seem so extreme. Buy a sub, pop a starter pack and I can feel like a bought some part of the expac and enjoy the game the way it's meant to be played. Not so much with this one. ****, even Cryptic has seemed lackluster about this x2 given the tone of their blogs. They hardly promoted the thing until a month ago.
Nobody can agree on what exactly. Which is why its just safe to assume that everything about STO killed STO (even us, the players).
(UFP) Ragnar
How can anyone expect a returning player to have anything but a distinct impression otherwise as to how events unfold when all you have to do is look at the mission structure and see that the Sphere goes before the other two and knows that the sphere is in the delta quadrant? Had that been the case, Cryptic could have done a better job of letting anyone know that the Sphere was a grind whose story had little to no impact upon the game. That's why I didn't do the FEs because it feels like to do them would have left out some crucial element of the story that I'm supposed to waste months of my life grinding for.
Wait, so you thought by playing the stories that you would miss out on the stories?
(UFP) Ragnar