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Fleet Alert - Failure

philosopherephilosophere Member Posts: 607 Arc User
edited October 2014 in Star Trek Online General Discussion
If this is the new normal.... holy TRIBBLE.

Just did a pug fleet alert with 5 other level 50 captains. One was in the new intel escort and we failed, big time. Don't think we even completed wave 3.

Is this for real? Is this what was intended? If so they can kiss the casual player goodbye....
Are we there yet?
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  • deaftravis05deaftravis05 Member Posts: 4,885 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    philosophere wrote: »
    If this is the new normal.... holy TRIBBLE.

    Just did a pug fleet alert with 5 other level 50 captains. One was in the new intel escort and we failed, big time. Don't think we even completed wave 3.

    Is this for real? Is this what was intended? If so they can kiss the casual player goodbye....

    it seems that they have made um... everything one level more difficult than it was supposed to be. I expect it to be fixed soon.
  • strykewolf67strykewolf67 Member Posts: 1 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    Same with CC (adv), 10 of us went in, all experienced L50s (granted a pug), 30-ish minutes later it was down to me in my support cruiser and a scimitar; we gave up.


    Think after the server twitchiness settles down, will get some fleet mates together and give it another run. Seemed like half of what we were doing in the pug was doing nothing; so that may have been a factor.
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  • darkjeffdarkjeff Member Posts: 2,590 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    Normal is level 50, Advanced is scaled to 60, and Elite is 60 only.

    So you were all basically 10 levels behind in gear/abilities, no?
  • deaftravis05deaftravis05 Member Posts: 4,885 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    they mean fleet alert, which is set to normal
  • strykewolf67strykewolf67 Member Posts: 1 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    darkjeff wrote: »
    Normal is level 50, Advanced is scaled to 60, and Elite is 60 only.

    So you were all basically 10 levels behind in gear/abilities, no?

    Perhaps. So nerf the rewards and scale up the difficulty. Yeah, that's a bright move.
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  • philosopherephilosophere Member Posts: 607 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    darkjeff wrote: »
    Normal is level 50, Advanced is scaled to 60, and Elite is 60 only.

    So you were all basically 10 levels behind in gear/abilities, no?

    Don't believe that was what was presented (as to advanced), but I may be wrong. For fleet alert which is a basic mission, the level of difficultly as it stands is beyond words... well I have a few but will not repeat them here...:eek:
    Are we there yet?
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  • philosopherephilosophere Member Posts: 607 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    valoreah wrote: »
    This is exactly what Cryptic wanted. Now go open your wallet for the shiny new T6 ships and have at it! :P

    How about no.

    Yes, I may have invested down the road, but from my first impressions of the new normal (if the current state is working as intended), I don't see much of this game in my future. :confused:
    Are we there yet?
  • strykewolf67strykewolf67 Member Posts: 1 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    philosophere wrote: »
    How about no.

    Yes, I may have invested down the road, but from my first impressions of the new normal (if the current state is working as intended), I don't see much of this game in my future. :confused:

    I think a few things may have gotten jacked up a bit. Gonna give it a few days and see if things settle down.
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  • deaftravis05deaftravis05 Member Posts: 4,885 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    valoreah wrote: »
    This is the new normal. Everything got a buff. Both Normal and Advanced should still be doable with existing ships/gear.

    should but if you fail fleet alert... by wave 3... there's a problem
  • bubblebaflebubblebafle Member Posts: 273 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    valoreah wrote: »
    This is exactly what Cryptic wanted. Now go open your wallet for the shiny new T6 ships and have at it! :P

    Yup, but people are really optimistic sometimes.. they seem all very new to this universe xD.

    I used to do the normal fleet alert and i never failed it with mkX common equipment. It always was more or less easy. But if you tell me that now, i need the best equipment and ship to just do a "buffed" normal fleet alert... looooool, something is terrible wrong.
  • sheldonlcoopersheldonlcooper Member Posts: 4,042 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    valoreah wrote: »
    This is the new normal. Everything got a buff. Both Normal and Advanced should still be doable with existing ships/gear.

    If it stands it's a buff of philosophy. It means these will not be "moneymakers" for players. Instead they will be occasional treats for fun.

    I was saying I completed the advanced crystalline and ISE but they are a monster challenge. My hands are exhausted lol :)
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  • erei1erei1 Member Posts: 4,081 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    philosophere wrote: »
    How about no.

    Yes, I may have invested down the road, but from my first impressions of the new normal (if the current state is working as intended), I don't see much of this game in my future. :confused:
    I'm pretty sure the content is tailored for T6 and upgraded gear. Mostly the advanced and elite.

    They have to sell their 30$ ships afterall, not counting the various R&D pack and upgrade packs. Or the dil.
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  • deaftravis05deaftravis05 Member Posts: 4,885 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    valoreah wrote: »
    The problem could be build/gear/player skill too. Not saying that's what the issue is for you personally, just that I've seen some really poorly built/played ships prior to DR.

    that is true. But I've done this solo... with 4 other players barely doing 1k damage... and got the romulan boss.

    It's near impossible to fail.
  • adorenkoadorenko Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    Fleet Alerts are difficult? Hell Yeah!!! I'm loving seeing all these fail posts. No offense. It just means we are actually getting a real challenge.

    Edit: I will put this caveat in, I haven't played it yet, so there could be an issue but I will reserve my right to recant all over the place when the time comes. :)
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  • philosopherephilosophere Member Posts: 607 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    valoreah wrote: »
    This is the new normal. Everything got a buff. Both Normal and Advanced should still be doable with existing ships/gear.

    Not everything.... level 50 captains seem to have been left out.

    Doable in whos' dictionary? Cryptics'?

    I've been doing these fleet alerts for a long while and I've never seen a pug fail this early. Yes when the Simitar would play hide and go seek, but that was some time ago and only during the final wave. I've completed them successfully with one player AFK and another flying a Miranda....

    This is just wrong.
    Are we there yet?
  • UnknownUnknown
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  • rekurzionrekurzion Member Posts: 697 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    philosophere wrote: »
    How about no.

    Yes, I may have invested down the road, but from my first impressions of the new normal (if the current state is working as intended), I don't see much of this game in my future. :confused:


    So...you get knocked down and your solution is to run away?
  • atomictikiatomictiki Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    adorenko wrote: »
    Fleet Alerts are difficult? Hell Yeah!!! I'm loving seeing all these fail posts. No offense. It just means we are actually getting a real challenge.

    Edit: I will put this caveat in, I haven't played it yet, so there could be an issue but I will reserve my right to recant all over the place when the time comes. :)

    Then enjoy really long queue times as people abandon STFs for easier content that pays better. Congrats!
    Leave nerfing to the professionals.
  • philosopherephilosophere Member Posts: 607 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    adorenko wrote: »
    Fleet Alerts are difficult? Hell Yeah!!! I'm loving seeing all these fail posts. No offense. It just means we are actually getting a real challenge.

    Don't be so excited. Most players are casual and will walk after a few runs of this, never to return to STO. This is a free to play game.... we need lots of players in order for it to stay running. :(
    Are we there yet?
  • UnknownUnknown
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  • rodentmasterrodentmaster Member Posts: 1 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    Basically they lied. "easy" on DR is "elite" in 9.5. Which means if you're a casual player you are now S.O.L. in every way.

    If you were able to compete in Elites before, you now must play easy -- which means naturally you get almost NO rewards for it, and especially no rep currencies ("Ancient Technology" I think it's called), so you're also screwed there, as well.


    This has been on tribble for ages. They have shown no inclination to comment on it or fix it. Do NOT expect it to change. This is the new world order: Every player in the game is shafted unless they pay for upgrades to Mk14 gear, T6 ships, and bypassing timegates with dil.
  • philosopherephilosophere Member Posts: 607 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    rekurzion wrote: »
    So...you get knocked down and your solution is to run away?

    We were hardly knocked down, but it felt like we were using Mk2 weapons. No one was dying any more than normal as far as I saw.

    As to running away, that is left to be seen. :confused:
    Are we there yet?
  • swamarianswamarian Member Posts: 1,506 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    valoreah wrote: »
    Level 50 Captains aren't at endgame level now. The new endgame is level 60 with either T5-U or T6 ships and MK XII - MK XIV gear.

    As for the FA being too hard now, I can't really say for sure as I have to wait until later this evening to test. It's possible the setting is a bit too high due to a bug. I can say on Tribble we didn't have any issues with the new content in Fleet ships with Fleet/Rep gear.

    Is the fleet alert end game? I remember doing my first fleet action at level 30.
  • rekurzionrekurzion Member Posts: 697 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    rodentmaster wrote: »
    Basically they lied. "easy" on DR is "elite" in 9.5. Which means if you're a casual player you are now S.O.L. in every way.

    If you were able to compete in Elites before, you now must play easy -- which means naturally you get almost NO rewards for it, and especially no rep currencies ("Ancient Technology" I think it's called), so you're also screwed there, as well.


    This has been on tribble for ages. They have shown no inclination to comment on it or fix it. Do NOT expect it to change. This is the new world order: Every player in the game is shafted unless they pay for upgrades to Mk14 gear, T6 ships, and bypassing timegates with dil.

    Or you could take your time, use the upgrade system to upgrade your gear (no money). If you lack dil for the upgrade don't fret, play a foundry mission with the Officer Reports repeatable (every hour) and boom, instant 2K dill. For those not keeping up that's 2K dill/hour :o which should also give you a good some to buy either and upgrade token or a new T6 ship. And if you are concerned about poor foundry missions there are few pure space combat missions which dub nicely as ship testing that pay foundry rewards (i.e. no story, no clicking, just killing for 35 minutes). Play on normal for a while, some normal STF's, gain XP and other valuable rep points. Stack up on drops and EC for purchases and crafting. Learn new methods to defeat foes...tactics and strategies. Then ease your into more difficult gameplay until you can faceroll your enemies.

    all is well.
  • UnknownUnknown
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  • philosopherephilosophere Member Posts: 607 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    rodentmaster wrote: »
    Basically they lied. "easy" on DR is "elite" in 9.5. Which means if you're a casual player you are now S.O.L. in every way.

    If you were able to compete in Elites before, you now must play easy -- which means naturally you get almost NO rewards for it, and especially no rep currencies ("Ancient Technology" I think it's called), so you're also screwed there, as well.


    This has been on tribble for ages. They have shown no inclination to comment on it or fix it. Do NOT expect it to change. This is the new world order: Every player in the game is shafted unless they pay for upgrades to Mk14 gear, T6 ships, and bypassing timegates with dil.

    I hope your wrong about the lying.... for this games sake.

    Yes I ran an STF on advanced, and the 480 dil was shall we say... underwhelming for the amount of time taken. :(
    Are we there yet?
  • philosopherephilosophere Member Posts: 607 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    swamarian wrote: »
    Is the fleet alert end game? I remember doing my first fleet action at level 30.
    valoreah wrote: »
    I never said it was.

    It sure feels like it.... ;)
    Are we there yet?
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