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rmy1081rmy1081 Member Posts: 2,840 Arc User
edited October 2014 in Klingon Discussion
Do you find it odd that there's no intel BoP. I'm not saying the intel battle cruiser isn't great, because it is, but of all the ships in the game, I would have thought a "scout/raider would have made a great intel ship.
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  • jaguarskxjaguarskx Member Posts: 5,945 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    I don't really care about an "Intel" BoP, I just want a T6 BoP.
  • rezkingrezking Member Posts: 1,109 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    jaguarskx wrote: »
    I don't really care about an "Intel" BoP, I just want a T6 BoP.

    You should care.
    An Intel BoP would totally pwn all.
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  • corelogikcorelogik Member Posts: 1,039 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    jaguarskx wrote: »
    I don't really care about an "Intel" BoP, I just want a T6 BoP.

    This, a million time this.

    rezking wrote: »
    You should care.
    An Intel BoP would totally pwn all.

    With a healthy side of this.
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  • virusdancervirusdancer Member Posts: 18,687 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    Was surprised that it was an Intel Battle Cruiser, no doubt...and the existence of the Phantom kind of throws off the "lore" approach of them being Delta Quadrant sneaker types.

    Thing to keep in mind, mind you - is that they have other Specializations planned. The next one might be something more befitting a Raider than the Intel...eh?

    Course, there will likely be a Fed T6 "Whatever" Raider at that point and no KDF Raider...but those are the kicks, meh. Kick to the gut, kick to the balls, kick to the face...courtesy of the Cryptic Kick Corporation.
  • warmaker001bwarmaker001b Member Posts: 9,205 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    Kind of surprised the KDF's Intel ship is a Battlecruiser, since our Battlecruiser lineup is consistently quite good on average.

    What I was kind of hoping for was a KDF Intel ship in the weaker areas of our lineup.

    Raptor
    BOP
    Science Ship

    I would have put a much higher emphasis on a BOP as a perfect representative for a KDF Intel ship. The BOPs throughout Star Trek have regularly been sent on these long ranged special missions making use of that cloaking device. From Kirk's era and all the way into the Dominion War era, Klingons have regularly sent BOPs to do these special tasks. Not a fancy, powerful Battlecruiser. Just the ever popular, small, stealthy BOP.
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  • breadandcircusesbreadandcircuses Member Posts: 2,355 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    Kind of surprised the KDF's Intel ship is a Battlecruiser, since our Battlecruiser lineup is consistently quite good on average.

    What I was kind of hoping for was a KDF Intel ship in the weaker areas of our lineup.

    Raptor
    BOP
    Science Ship

    I would have put a much higher emphasis on a BOP as a perfect representative for a KDF Intel ship. The BOPs throughout Star Trek have regularly been sent on these long ranged special missions making use of that cloaking device. From Kirk's era and all the way into the Dominion War era, Klingons have regularly sent BOPs to do these special tasks. Not a fancy, powerful Battlecruiser. Just the ever popular, small, stealthy BOP.

    Honestly, if the Mat'Ha had been our Intel Raptor it would have had me sold in an instant... trade some of that hull for a Battlecloak, Intel gimmicks, Turn Rate, Impulse Modifier, increased Intel seating... it'd be everything a Raptor had been missing over the years. Ah well. :P
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  • variant37variant37 Member Posts: 867 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    No...not odd, at least not at the initial launch of DR. The decision to make the Qib a battlecruiser was purely financial. "Let's compare the number of battlecruiser captains to the number of BoP captains in the game. Will we sell more Qibs if it's a BC or a BoP?"

    They ignored the fact that one of the reasons there are so many BC captains is because there are so many great KDF BCs, and not much else worthwhile to choose from. Of COURSE most people are going to choose to fly a battlecruiser.

    It makes way too much sense to have an Intel BoP. That class of ship is perfect for that role. I really hope we see one in the not-too-distant future. Considering Cryptic's history with the KDF though, who knows?

    I guess we should be happy that we're finally getting a nice Raptor.
  • trygvar13trygvar13 Member Posts: 697 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    While I mostly agree with you after having done extensive testing on Tribble I'm not sure an Intel BoP would be a viable ship. It would be far too squishy. The Vaadwaur cluster torpedoes would make mashed potatoes of any BoP. And in a battle of attrition (which is often the case in DR) a BoP doesn't stand a chance.
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  • trygvar13trygvar13 Member Posts: 697 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    variant37 wrote: »
    I guess we should be happy that we're finally getting a nice Raptor.

    Yes, at last a Raptor. I'm still not sure how it will handle with such a low turn rate but I hope we get to test them soon on Tribble. I'm beginning to think they will never be released there.
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  • dova25dova25 Member Posts: 475
    edited October 2014
    Honestly, if the Mat'Ha had been our Intel Raptor it would have had me sold in an instant... trade some of that hull for a Battlecloak, Intel gimmicks, Turn Rate, Impulse Modifier, increased Intel seating... it'd be everything a Raptor had been missing over the years. Ah well. :P

    A battlecloak would compensate 15 turn rate and 200 crew and would make Maha a interesting PVP destroyer.

    But probably Cryptic had already put kdf into "content" category while federation is in "whale" category so kdf ships must be weaker than fed ones
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  • zeuxidemus001zeuxidemus001 Member Posts: 3,357 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    dova25 wrote: »
    A battlecloak would compensate 15 turn rate and 200 crew and would make Maha a interesting PVP destroyer.

    But probably Cryptic had already put kdf into "content" category while federation is in "whale" category so kdf ships must be weaker than fed ones

    Pretty much instead of balancing things they choose to go down the route of saying if you buy a federation ship you will have the *best and better ship than a kdf player* that is their marketing lol. As a KDF player I ask Cryptic why bother grinding and spending my time on this game if its only to grind for inferior content. So methinks this is the end of STO for me.
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