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Heya,
Just a curiosity question. I know there used to be a chart back in the old days which compared the physical sizes of in-game ships. However, a great many ships have since been added to the game in my absence!
So, these days, what are the biggest ships out there? Federation side, I suppose, given that it's all I play. This includes special lockbox ships and all that.
Thanks for indulging my curiosity.
Just a curiosity question. I know there used to be a chart back in the old days which compared the physical sizes of in-game ships. However, a great many ships have since been added to the game in my absence!
So, these days, what are the biggest ships out there? Federation side, I suppose, given that it's all I play. This includes special lockbox ships and all that.
Thanks for indulging my curiosity.
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As far as I can tell, where *playable* ships are concerned, the Jem'Hadar win in the size category.
I'm really enjoying my Narcine, but I'd imagined it being a bit bigger!
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The largest Federation vessel in-game is the Jupiter Class (NPC, hopefully playable soon), followed closely by the Odyssey Class.
The Scimitar family has the biggest box-out volume, though, thanks to that outrageous 1200m wingspan
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The Dauntless is canon, but the chart shows it as non-canon. Therefore, the entire chart is questionable.
However, the sheer wing span of the Scimitar, as was said before, would actually look to be the biggest in most players' eyes. It dwarfs DS9.
um, according to that chart, a d'deridex is bigger than DS9????
I always thought the Galaxy class and d'deridex were close in size?
DS9's quite small really, they made it bigger for STO because otherwise there'd be a teeny tiny space station amongst all the oversized ships.
Yes, even during the design phase for its initial appearance on TNG, the DD was meant to be larger than the Galaxy Class. However, the size differential never really translated on-screen. And if you were to go by window placements for STO-only ships, the Bortasqu is actually tiny, the hammerhead at its extreme front being about 6 storeys high (maybe 10 if you count the slightly further back lower decks).
ur picture is wrong, it shows canon ships thats not canon and STO ships that are canon.
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There is a famous scene in one of the TNG books where Picard flies the ENT inside of the DD to hide from it.
ur correct they are more or less the same size.
that is a not famous, as it would never be possible as the Galaxy class and DD are more or less the same size. Books/STO is not Canon the only stuff to be Canon is TV/Movies from Paramount pictures.
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Nope. The Dedirex was always a really huge ship, in comparison with the Galaxy and any known starfleet ship. In the shows, the problem is , since it is not CGI but pure physical models, sometimes they will not get the proper size of the DD, it will look almost the same size as the Galaxy. And other times it will look really big.
But no, its impossible that the DD is as big as DS9. Something is wrong there. Besides, we all saw a lot of dedirex flying around DS9 in the show. So, whats the deal? who knows.
LOL, no, the DD is far BIGGER than the Galaxy... the only thing that makes the Galaxy to be confusing about the size is the saucer, more than that, the real size is far from the numbers of the dedirex.
no your wrong, in every canon trek they have looked more or less the same size regardless of what you think.
both ships are the same, size weapons comlment etc etc
lol and nice try
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Wtf u talking about.. the dedirex the same size as the galaxy class... dude, seriously.. :P:P
As i said, in the shows sometimes (and only sometimes) the dedirex looked more or less the same size, but in other takes, it didnt. And if you look over the TNG extras of the remastered blu ray edition, there is an extra where they explain the way they filmed the show, and they talked about "fake" sizes not be able to be represented as they wanted. The Dedirex is a clear example.
Or you just need to go to memory alpha, or any other star trek data base. In fact, in memory alpha they say the dedirex was almost twice in size as the galaxy class. So, if that for you is "being the same size", well, i dunno.
think uve proved my point by saying PWE and fans make up canon trek LOL INCORRECT the only people who make up canon trek is paramount not PWE/FANS. the fact files say they are more or less the same size with in 100 meters of eachother.
if u beleive it or not i dont care, i only listen to parmaount trek fact files not player/pwe made up stuff, that is NOT canon
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Each time they release a new ship, they have a number of challenges; how does it match up to screen use or compare with ship on the screen? Does the size impact game mechanics? How will players react?
The Scimidar is a great example. When first released for testing on Tribble, it's size was an issue, but one the devs felt was 'workable'. Fast forward to a full server and ship spawn points became a game of 'Bump the Scimi' as ships pushed and prodded their way into the area. Some adjustments were made, but as Romulan captains will tell you - yes we can go there, but park? Hell no...
The Defiant is waaaay to small. The B'Rel IS actually that big (not all bops are the same size).
The Xindi Narcine Carrier should be 4x larger in the game than it actually is, based on screen caps showing the Enterprise in her belly. (Found myself typing in the voice of Fat TRIBBLE on that line).
The dev's do their best, trying to fit everything without having to resize everyone playing the game - although at this stage I would not mind a categorical game-wide resizing of ships.
Eh... I'm thinking that might have been The Return, and they temp named a Defiant Enterprise for a strike, and I don't remember if it was Kirk or Picard who came up with the idea of getting inside a D'D and spinning to rip it apart from the inside.
Wait... I think it was Kirk, and he said somethign about the Trojan Horse as a reference.
I didnt prove your "point" because obviously you dont want to be corrected. I dont know if you are just trolling or what. I tell you again. The size of the dedirex is really big compared with the Galaxy class. Period. And im talking about the canon trek, not STO / PWE. But it looks like you love the Galaxy class and you dont want the size to be so "small". I can understand that, but im done arguin with you about this, go troll somewhere else, please.
The Jupiter-class is in game but I prefer to pretend that ship class does not exist and is replaced by the Odyssey or Galaxy-X Dreadnought (if I was a game developer for STO I would remove every single instance of the Jupiter and replace it with the Odyssey, Galaxy-X or Venture-X), however what I believe is inconsequential. The Jupiter is bigger than the Odyssey in terms of sheer size.
Of note, I believe the Atrox is bigger than the Odyssey. It manages to squeak (or meow) by that lore due it not being a Federation design, but a Caitian design given to the Federation.
In terms of the KDF, I believe the Vo'Quv and Bortasqu' are on par with one another in terms of sheer size.
Unsurprisingly, the biggest ships for the Romulan Republic are the Scimitar Warbird Dreadnoughts.
As far as lockbox/lobi ships go I want to say it is the Tal Shiar Battlecruiser.
As far as NPC ships go, it's most certainly the Voth Cityship from the Breach and Borg Disconnected, unless you want to loosen the definition of ship -- in which case the Solanae and Jenolan Dyson Spheres are the biggest vessels able to move faster than light.
As far as targetable NPC ships (discounting the Voth Cityship), I would say it is the Voth Citadel Dreadnought, or the Borg Unimatrix ships.
The Tal Shiar Battlecruiser is bigger than the Sheshar? The Elachi Dreadnought is huge so it appears bigger than the Tal Shiar Ships
But i always wanted to see the Warpcore of the Dyson spheres. It must be an impressive thing if it can move a whole Sphere with a sun inside and who knows what else, maybe there are even moons somewhere.
Also, for this post "size" should be defined, is it length or volume?
Technical manuals are not confirmed as canon (Rick Sternbach was not entirely happy with ship size section himself) but they gave generous dimensions of D'deridex (1,041x772m) vs Galaxy (641 x 470m) but gave larger mass to Galaxy 4.500.000 vs 4.320.000t. And again canonicity of mentioned sources is in question.
That's a good point, I did not consider the Shesar Dreadnought. Nor have I compared hull sizes with one in my Tal Shiar Battlecruiser.