just looking up the ships registry number, its apparent number puts it around the early mid 24th century when it was constructed originally, so a major clanger dropped already that its a refit or retrofit of another vessel. so its the 475th starfleet cruiser design and its the first of its class based on the serial number 1 on the end.
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I am just hoping that it is larger the classis fed cruisers. I am tired of my cruiser being smaller than a romulan sci vessel lol. Federation needs bigger ships!
The larger it is the slower it turns, so I really do not want it to be overly large.
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just looking up the ships registry number, its apparent number puts it around the early mid 24th century when it was constructed originally, so a major clanger dropped already that its a refit or retrofit of another vessel. so its the 475th starfleet cruiser design and its the first of its class based on the serial number 1 on the end.
good spot
NCC-47501 so late ambassador early cheyenne time frame of the original ship
That doesn't preclude the original from being an Ambassador of course, since the Crazy Horse is an Excelsior class ship and as such even older in design.
^I really am not excited by that ugly ship at all, I wish they would have made the Tahoe and Jupiter class like many requested.
Let me get this straight. You think this ship is ugly but that abomination the Jupiter is better? To each their own. But no ones going to take that opinion seriously.
back in 2240's the connies were being built, they were the 17th cruiser design and the maximum serial code was 11 because there were only 12 connies in existance at the time 0 being the original, the USS Constitution. during this time the reg had 4 numbers because starfleet was small and has not put much into ship construction until around 2260 when the excelsior and miranda classes came into the picture, the excelsior was the 20th cruiser design and the excelsior itself was the 0 serial number, the first and original. then there was the miranda that was built before the excelsior because its registry number was 18 as it was the 18th cruiser design, the uss reliant was the 64th miranda class ship launched so NCC 1864.
having explored more indepth on the subject thats what the registry number is. based on the mid to late 2300's starfleet was onto the Akira class ship which was the 635th cruiser design and the uss thunderchild which took part in the battle of sector 001 was the 49th akira launched.
the numbers on the registry add up the more time that passes due to more cruiser designs added, on occasion some registries are kept from the original and given the designator as A or B or D to show it was the next ship in line to get this designation otherwise the Ent-D would of been 718th cruiser and then a serial code. as it turns out the USS Yamato had NCC 1305-E however it carried its original NCC 71807 too, that also means the galaxy class is a much newer design then the akira class. and that means the akira class was build pre 2360 as the galaxy class ship was finishing construction at the time.
the uss sutherland was a nebula class and the 720th cruiser design, considering the galaxy class, its no surprise the nebula is newer than the galaxy class, the sutherland was the 15th nebula launched so it too was launched around 2260's.
the voyager was the 746th cruiser design not far ahead of the galaxy class in design which means its original was built around 2360's which explains why i saw an intrepid class ship in the wreckage of wolf 359 on the ent-d viewer, it had to been fresh out of spacedock. the voyager happened to be the 56th intrepid launched.
where there is no exact date when some of these ships originals launched, the excelsior itself was built in 2280's which mean the miranda class was around the same time, 2250's-2280's due to its registry.
and yes i take canon serious and always have.
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Um... hate to poke a hole in this... but where does both the Kelvin (which is technically a Prime Universe design as she existed before the Narada appeared in 2233) and Grissom fit in?
The Grissom's registry number was 638. Kelvin's was 0514, although the 0 in front is kind of an anomoly, but maybe the artists wanted to keep to a 4 digit registry number.
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Let me get this straight. You think this ship is ugly but that abomination the Jupiter is better? To each their own. But no ones going to take that opinion seriously.
The Tahoe is kinda sexy though. Like an Intrepid made sweet passionate pon farr with a fighter jet.
Um... hate to poke a hole in this... but where does both the Kelvin (which is technically a Prime Universe design as she existed before the Narada appeared in 2233) and Grissom fit in?
The Grissom's registry number was 638. Kelvin's was 0514, although the 0 in front is kind of an anomoly, but maybe the artists wanted to keep to a 4 digit registry number.
the kelvin isnt prime universe, so thats a moot point
as for the grissom thats the 6th cruiser and 38th of its class to be launched, that would put that around 2160-2200's.
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Actually... the Kelvin is. She was there when the Narada altered the timeline, thus indicating that her class existed before the Narada attacked. The timeline didn't split until that moment. Everything that happened up to that point happened in the Prime Universe as well. So... by your math... she'd be the... 5 cruiser and 14th of her class, again putting her in the same range as the Oberth.
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Actually... the Kelvin is. She was there when the Narada altered the timeline, thus indicating that her class existed before the Narada attacked. The timeline didn't split until that moment. Everything that happened up to that point happened in the Prime Universe as well. So... by your math... she'd be the... 5 cruiser and 14th of her class, again putting her in the same range as the Oberth.
it was alt universe, the kelvin just happened to be on its journey when this massive blackhole appeared and that narada came through to destroy it, the only thing in that fight from the prime universe was the narada. the kelvin was not and is not prime universe. you have been confused somewhere.
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No... I don't think so. Everything up to the point the Kelvin was attacked happened in the Prime Universe. The branching point is the arrival and attack of the Narada. http://en.memory-alpha.org/wiki/USS_Kelvin
Memory Alpha lists her as existing in both realities, the Prime one where she was still active, and the Alternate Reality where she was destroyed by the Narada. The reason the AR Enterprise looked different was because of the scan data the Kelvin's crew brought back. If the Narada never appeared, history would have proceeded as it did in the Prime Universe.
Therefor, the Kelvin and her class are in fact Prime Universe. The point of divergence is when the two ships met. Don't forget that ship designs evolve over the years. She may not have looked like TOS ships, but that was because she was like... 20-25 years older than the TOS Connie.
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The whole idea of the registry numbers being interpreted in that fashion doesn't make sense, though, if you look at a couple of other examples.
NX-74205... for example... a prototype ship of a cancelled (and later revived) project? With a number that ends in 05? How do you explain that one? (the ship in question: Defiant )
The various Constitution-class cruisers in the Original Series often did not have registry numbers in the 17XX range... and even the ones that did sometimes had much higher numbers than the 1711 which your theory states as the maximum (the Defiant in the episodes TOS: The Tholian Web and ENT: In a Mirror, Darkly ... was marked as NCC-1764 ! )
...and the other Excelsiors seen were not always in the 20XX range (Excelsior was shown with an NX-2000).
the defiant was the 742nd ship design, there could be any reason for it not to have the 0 designation, but from what was mentioned the defiant is overdesigned and overpowered, there could of been several prototypes that were built that would account for 4 ships beforehand, but your guess is as good as mine. its not a prove or disprove, its simply without any further facts in hand from hard canon sources, thats a dead end.
thats the point there were only 12 ships in the federation fleet and were connies and only 12 registry serials were ever used, i never stated they were in order :P.
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more like ent-j ftw with 2 turn circle and 3 hangars... uh yeah.. no thanks!! :P.
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Until some stats are released on this class of ship. I will keep my excitement to my self.
good spot
NCC-47501 so late ambassador early cheyenne time frame of the original ship
it may as well be an ambassador refit
Which may explain why they gave away the T5 version recently.
To showcase this fine cruiser to people who didn't pick it up last time.
Must admit, if it is a new version of the Ambassador then my chance of buying it doubled.
Known Ambassador class ships, other than the Enterprise C, have registries in the 26000 range.
47501 places it somewhere between the http://en.memory-alpha.org/wiki/USS_Curry and http://en.memory-alpha.org/wiki/USS_Crazy_Horse
That doesn't preclude the original from being an Ambassador of course, since the Crazy Horse is an Excelsior class ship and as such even older in design.
but good find on those ships
the Lakota also has the registry around this range as well http://en.memory-alpha.org/wiki/USS_Lakota 42768
Agreed.
If anything, the registry is just a placeholder.
The Guardian Class looks very much like a new, 25th Century design.
*facepalm*
Did people actually take a new ship registry number seriously? Again?
Apparently, somebody did.
Let me get this straight. You think this ship is ugly but that abomination the Jupiter is better? To each their own. But no ones going to take that opinion seriously.
having explored more indepth on the subject thats what the registry number is. based on the mid to late 2300's starfleet was onto the Akira class ship which was the 635th cruiser design and the uss thunderchild which took part in the battle of sector 001 was the 49th akira launched.
the numbers on the registry add up the more time that passes due to more cruiser designs added, on occasion some registries are kept from the original and given the designator as A or B or D to show it was the next ship in line to get this designation otherwise the Ent-D would of been 718th cruiser and then a serial code. as it turns out the USS Yamato had NCC 1305-E however it carried its original NCC 71807 too, that also means the galaxy class is a much newer design then the akira class. and that means the akira class was build pre 2360 as the galaxy class ship was finishing construction at the time.
the uss sutherland was a nebula class and the 720th cruiser design, considering the galaxy class, its no surprise the nebula is newer than the galaxy class, the sutherland was the 15th nebula launched so it too was launched around 2260's.
the voyager was the 746th cruiser design not far ahead of the galaxy class in design which means its original was built around 2360's which explains why i saw an intrepid class ship in the wreckage of wolf 359 on the ent-d viewer, it had to been fresh out of spacedock. the voyager happened to be the 56th intrepid launched.
where there is no exact date when some of these ships originals launched, the excelsior itself was built in 2280's which mean the miranda class was around the same time, 2250's-2280's due to its registry.
and yes i take canon serious and always have.
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Um... hate to poke a hole in this... but where does both the Kelvin (which is technically a Prime Universe design as she existed before the Narada appeared in 2233) and Grissom fit in?
The Grissom's registry number was 638.
Kelvin's was 0514, although the 0 in front is kind of an anomoly, but maybe the artists wanted to keep to a 4 digit registry number.
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The Tahoe is kinda sexy though. Like an Intrepid made sweet passionate pon farr with a fighter jet.
Anyway
But yeah those angles make me hate this new cruiser less. They fixed my biggest gripe with the Probert Ambassador (I can't describe it but I did this[/url to explain it visually) so I've graduated from disdain to cautious curiosity.
...seriously though the Probert Ambassador looks like it's got a beer belly.
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the kelvin isnt prime universe, so thats a moot point
as for the grissom thats the 6th cruiser and 38th of its class to be launched, that would put that around 2160-2200's.
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it was alt universe, the kelvin just happened to be on its journey when this massive blackhole appeared and that narada came through to destroy it, the only thing in that fight from the prime universe was the narada. the kelvin was not and is not prime universe. you have been confused somewhere.
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http://en.memory-alpha.org/wiki/USS_Kelvin
Memory Alpha lists her as existing in both realities, the Prime one where she was still active, and the Alternate Reality where she was destroyed by the Narada. The reason the AR Enterprise looked different was because of the scan data the Kelvin's crew brought back. If the Narada never appeared, history would have proceeded as it did in the Prime Universe.
Therefor, the Kelvin and her class are in fact Prime Universe. The point of divergence is when the two ships met. Don't forget that ship designs evolve over the years. She may not have looked like TOS ships, but that was because she was like... 20-25 years older than the TOS Connie.
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the defiant was the 742nd ship design, there could be any reason for it not to have the 0 designation, but from what was mentioned the defiant is overdesigned and overpowered, there could of been several prototypes that were built that would account for 4 ships beforehand, but your guess is as good as mine. its not a prove or disprove, its simply without any further facts in hand from hard canon sources, thats a dead end.
thats the point there were only 12 ships in the federation fleet and were connies and only 12 registry serials were ever used, i never stated they were in order :P.
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