My opinion is that his last ship should have been neutral.
Maybe it is not late and it can be changed from a fed ship to a all faction ship.
Why sell a ship to a single faction when you can sell it to three?
"There already is a Borg faction, its called the Federation. They assimilate everyone else's technology and remove any biological or technical distinctiveness and add it to their own."
I refuse to be content https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FwI0u9L4R8U
the problem i see with most of the ships and the idea of a one for all ship is culture. the one ship fits all is lock box territory and they make a ton of money from those things.
but my self i only buy and fly ships of Klingon design, not gorn no flavor of the month lockbox no nausicaan ONLY KLINGON now i know that my choice but the idea is Klingons are differnt from the feddy bears, like the dyson ship being bad. if i am gonna run it in tac mode the proprietary weapon sucks so id take a different ship altogether. and if i run it sci mode im still not happy with because as a Klingon the WARRIOR RACE even a science ship would be armed to the teeth not this 3/3 BS even if it meant giving up a little hull to make room for it .like our paper thin BoPs that are so outgunned and outclassed by others now that it is ONLY the warrior heart and skill that keeps them even somewhat viable.
Trophies for killing FEDS ahh those were the days.
op im not shocked by this i play all factions but i am willing to pay for more kdf or rom stuff but im not willing to pay for more fed. e,g my fed ships will be only getting upgrades but my my rom will get a T6 ship the only reason my kdf 2 chars are not getting T6 is because no T6 bop for my tac n no sci ship for my sci.
if they had used DR to add ships that are missing from KDF n ROM i would of forked out for zen instead ill use the zen i have grinded. i hope they add a new c-store kdf outfit if they do ill buy zen with hard cash. bet they dont :mad:
the last ship i payed cash for was the kdf Dyson pack i new i would not even use it for long as it is a TRIBBLE ship but i payed for it to show i will support the KDF game but its not made a difference
Thanks for pointing out the Dyson ships are garbage. I've been on the fence about buying those for a few weeks now, and replaying 'a step between stars' just to get a feel for the Dyson ship had me wondering if I've been away too long as it's just a clumsy weapons platform (on it's best day). I'm trying to change my playstyle as the TAC 'pew-pew' bores the TRIBBLE outta me. I'm having a great time with my engie tossing GW's from the freebie kamarag tho, and if the fleet version wasn't so freekin expensive ALL my toons would be flying it.
so they released info today feds get yet another ship Dauntless to me it looks bad but thats not the issue. its the fact feds get yet another freaking ship LOL .
Get used to it. Feds are ALWAYS gonna be more supported because the franchise always has featured them as protagonists.
This is just like when Cryptic had COH/COV. They largely ignored COV for so long, people left in droves. All the while, they were saying "But there arent as many people playing COV. So we won't add nearly as much there."
5f-2k-2r is a bit ridiculous for something as big as an expansion, IMO.
This is just like when Cryptic had COH/COV. They largely ignored COV for so long, people left in droves. All the while, they were saying "But there arent as many people playing COV. So we won't add nearly as much there."
5f-2k-2r is a bit ridiculous for something as big as an expansion, IMO.
my experience here has totally soured me to cryptic. i will never take up one of their games ever again. in fact, its soured me to factional gameplay full stop. i know i will never choose the 'heroic' faction, so i cant see putting myself at risk of factional neglect ever again.
my experience here has totally soured me to cryptic. i will never take up one of their games ever again. in fact, its soured me to factional gameplay full stop. i know i will never choose the 'heroic' faction, so i cant see putting myself at risk of factional neglect ever again.
I wouldn't let it bug you too much.
I think out of all the MMOs I played that was factional, this one got away with favoritism the most.
But thats because its based off a television series where 95% of the series' content is just one faction. So they can get away with favoritism.
Other companies won't be able to get away with it though. Imagine Blizzard trying to do that to their behemoth of a game and the likes. Ouch.
I still have dwindling hopes there will be 1 extra kdf and rom ship making it 5/3/3 but i shouldn't get my hopes up. I think they done hit their peak for a sell pack thats only 125 USD.
But thats because its based off a television series where 95% of the series' content is just one faction. So they can get away with favoritism.
You over-estimate the non-Federation content in the franchise.
TOS - 79 episodes
TAS - 22 episodes
TNG - 179 episodes
DS9 - 173 episodes
VOY - 168 episodes
ENT - 97 episodes
10 (+2 JJ) movies, 718 episodes.
Only maybe 1% of the franchise weren't about Starfleet (or its predecessor), and that's not including the movies. Were there even 8 episodes where Starfleet wasn't involved? I can only really recall Quark's misadventures. Even when Worf got out, the episodes still involved the rest of the TNG main cast.
They get away with "favoritism" because the franchise itself (Memory Alpha content) is entirely about Starfleet, and the vast majority of the Star Trek fanbase are focused on the Federation.
I was extremely surprised there was even a second faction in STO. The KDF seemed like it was just shoehorned in to appease the hardcore fans (who tend to be the only people who care about the Klingons), and even then just so there would be some form of PvP.
Thanks for pointing out the Dyson ships are garbage. I've been on the fence about buying those for a few weeks now, and replaying 'a step between stars' just to get a feel for the Dyson ship had me wondering if I've been away too long as it's just a clumsy weapons platform (on it's best day).
I got the free Fed DSD from the 4th year Anniversary event. I didn't create my KDF toon soon enough to collect all the Qmmendations for the free KDF DSD.
I never bothered to even take my Fed DSD out of spacedock. It does not seem like anything special to me. I will likely delete it if I start running out of ship slots.
Bah...the Federation can take their shiny new piece of filth...I will fly my Qin into the heart of the Delta Quadrant
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I believe what we should be really keen on learning is not how many ships a faction has.... but rather how good the available ones are.
The new KDF raptor seems interesting. I for one am hoping for a 5fore/2 aft weapon layout with 5 tac consoles. As for the bridge layout, I don't mind specialization, but too many tactical abilities get cumbersome. Especially the spare rank 1 tac ability. I was hoping for a special disruptor cannon like the andorian has the phaser wing cannons. But we can't have everything I suppose. Gimmick consoles bore me, so I can care less about it.
I believe what we should be really keen on learning is not how many ships a faction has.... but rather how good the available ones are.
The new KDF raptor seems interesting. I for one am hoping for a 5fore/2 aft weapon layout with 5 tac consoles. As for the bridge layout, I don't mind specialization, but too many tactical abilities get cumbersome. Especially the spare rank 1 tac ability. I was hoping for a special disruptor cannon like the andorian has the phaser wing cannons. But we can't have everything I suppose. Gimmick consoles bore me, so I can care less about it.
you have a point but after a while the sheer number imbalance, plus alot kdf ship being somewhat weaker. gets rather discouraging. don't get me wrong I love my kdf ships but they could at least pretend they're trying to be fair. at this point throwing in cheap copy and paste ships as filler would be welcome.
and you can bet on it not getting 5 tact slots... they do everything they can to avoid giving the warlike faction the best warships.
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why not? they let the feds do it in General Discussion all the time. we atleast have it in the klingon section.
Ok let me clarify, this type of thread, from anyone, in any part of the forum.
Anyhow, I love the fact that the KDF and Romulans have so few ships when compared to the Feds. My head wants to explode at how many Fed ships I have, and it seems so much that I don't even try to play any of them but maybe two. Switching around and trying them all in the other two factions seems doable. The issue, to me, is that Feds have too many ships, not that the other two factions need more.
Well the Feds will certainly know the klinks exist when they are fighting Kazon, they'll hear them QQing all the way from the Alpha quadrant!
Part of the problem, aside from the 1% of the shows that were actually about Klinks, is the attitude of the QDF players, feddy bear this, sheeple that, it's the same in pvp and places like kerrat. Many of the people who play the now dishonoured race of thugs act that way in chat too, they are insulting, they gank and mob average or noob players, then they come onto the forums and QQ the feddy bears get all the toys, qqq it's not fair, we want moar, etc after tired etc.
Do what Blue Geek suggested, support the KDF side, try to persuade some feddy bears to join you, and change your ingame attitude to that of a mature player rather than a bunch of mardy prepubescent whiners and perhaps then you'll recruit a few more players.[/QUOTte]
most feds are called feddy bears because they act just like you. Klink is a derogatory word and you dont even realize it.
only way to supposedly gank these noobs would be in the WAR ZONE and guess what fighting is how you learn to fight. not from reading a book.
and many of us are insulting to those who cant see we are different. the supposed faction that embraces diversity wants us all to be the same go figure.
and yes we can come into the forums in the Klingon section and we still have the FEDDY BEARS sticking noses places they shouldn't.
and personally no not gonna listen to the Blu[redacted]eek , THe feds come here and demand we change who and what we are to be more like them. call us names and dont even know it and then wonder why we dont like that sort. go figure.
if you don't want to be called sheeple then get out of that line where they all beat the same drum. its always nerf what they have or give it to us also. they dont have as many players so cater to us. they are not like us make them act like us. well if you think kerrat is rude just ask a simple question in ESD sometime. and remember thats your own faction acting that way not the Enemy. then go to the 1st city and ask the same question and see what you get, and remember that those answering you politely and in a very helpful way are the most likely the same sort your bashing in your post.
Trophies for killing FEDS ahh those were the days.
I am a lifer, and stopped playing when the Klingons had nothing after a year. I constantly wrote about the need for Romulan and Klingon stories. When they added the Romulans I came back and am generally very happy. I have one Fed toon Vice Admiral because that's all we had. I have all Romulans now, which is my favorite faction. Federation has the most players because that's all the game was at the start and folks don't want to re-roll new toons to attempt to regain comparable accomplishments and power that their fed toon has on one of the others. It is absolutely ridiculous to have the disparity between the new fed ships and the two Klingon and two Romulan ships that currently seems planned. The fed ships look great while the other two factions get slightly different skins. Its for that reason I boycott the fed. I play Romulan exclusively now. As a lifer I expect to have my opinion heard. As a person who has spent thousands of dollars supporting the game I expect to be heard.
ATTENTION- There are two other factions that you Devs need to pay attention to. I hated Voyager personallty, mostly because it was yet another federation centric show with a very unlikable captain. All the rest of her crew were so much better. Those of us spending money on your game demand more attention to the two red headed step child factions. It's insulting to see 5 fed ships with unique skins and then two each for the other factions that are minor changes to existing skins.
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I have supported the kdf i got that TRIBBLE kdf dyson 3 pack + 6 other kdf ships plus 2 fleet upgrades i spent more time on kdf.
ive opened more lockboxs kdf side thats why both my kdf have lockbox ships. I have payed for more respecs more bank space kdf side.
My only Rom is kdf but has it done kdf any good no it has not.
As for kdf players calling feds stuff well its roleplay plus a bit of fact. Pug cse with 4 feds higher chance of mission failing then with a pug kdf team. This has not changed since i started playing im feb 2012 but it all so helps that kdf players 95% of the time dont ignore team chat like 50% of feds do.
Is this what has come to the proud Klingon Empire? Whining about a few scraps of shiny plastic? We are Klingon warriors. We do not need a new ship. It is not the bat'leth that makes the warrior...it is the warrior that makes the bat'leth. Do not forget the battle of Veridian III...where a single 'old' Bird of Prey took out the pride of Starfleet.
J'mpok has said we will align with the Federation against the our foes. Fine. I say give them 100 new ships so they can keep up.
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blah blah blah.
its easy to say these things when you get all the toys.
imo the only reason cryptic even kept a 2nd faction is because they had to. they have demonstrated their resentment ever since. the only other plausible reason for the shabby treatment is outright incompetence.
Nina is correct in the note that we the KDF have purchased all the items have come out.
The KDF has done their part and supported all the cash items but we can't spend money on stuff that never comes out. I think it is silly that people are getting mad at a group that want to give cryptic money for ships and items. All we are asking is for items to spend out money on.
blah blah blah.
its easy to say these things when you get all the toys.
imo the only reason cryptic even kept a 2nd faction is because they had to. they have demonstrated their resentment ever since. the only other plausible reason for the shabby treatment is outright incompetence.
Actually I play the Romulan Faction and like you we only get two ships in the Tier Six lineup.
I'm not complaining because I know that the Federation is the main Faction in the game naturally since the franchise is based on the Federation most people will play as the Federation and so Cryptic needs to do what is best to satisfy the majority of players.
In the words of a wise Vulcan "The needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few"
actually for all my TRIBBLE talking I will probably have to get one of the new ships for my KDF...im still flying my lvl 40 Qin...so I'll either get a new ship or buy one of the current T5's
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Maybe it is not late and it can be changed from a fed ship to a all faction ship.
Why sell a ship to a single faction when you can sell it to three?
I refuse to be content https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FwI0u9L4R8U
Last time they did that was with that TRIBBLE dyson ship
but my self i only buy and fly ships of Klingon design, not gorn no flavor of the month lockbox no nausicaan ONLY KLINGON now i know that my choice but the idea is Klingons are differnt from the feddy bears, like the dyson ship being bad. if i am gonna run it in tac mode the proprietary weapon sucks so id take a different ship altogether. and if i run it sci mode im still not happy with because as a Klingon the WARRIOR RACE even a science ship would be armed to the teeth not this 3/3 BS even if it meant giving up a little hull to make room for it .like our paper thin BoPs that are so outgunned and outclassed by others now that it is ONLY the warrior heart and skill that keeps them even somewhat viable.
Thanks for pointing out the Dyson ships are garbage. I've been on the fence about buying those for a few weeks now, and replaying 'a step between stars' just to get a feel for the Dyson ship had me wondering if I've been away too long as it's just a clumsy weapons platform (on it's best day). I'm trying to change my playstyle as the TAC 'pew-pew' bores the TRIBBLE outta me. I'm having a great time with my engie tossing GW's from the freebie kamarag tho, and if the fleet version wasn't so freekin expensive ALL my toons would be flying it.
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5f-2k-2r is a bit ridiculous for something as big as an expansion, IMO.
my experience here has totally soured me to cryptic. i will never take up one of their games ever again. in fact, its soured me to factional gameplay full stop. i know i will never choose the 'heroic' faction, so i cant see putting myself at risk of factional neglect ever again.
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I wouldn't let it bug you too much.
I think out of all the MMOs I played that was factional, this one got away with favoritism the most.
But thats because its based off a television series where 95% of the series' content is just one faction. So they can get away with favoritism.
Other companies won't be able to get away with it though. Imagine Blizzard trying to do that to their behemoth of a game and the likes. Ouch.
I still have dwindling hopes there will be 1 extra kdf and rom ship making it 5/3/3 but i shouldn't get my hopes up. I think they done hit their peak for a sell pack thats only 125 USD.
You over-estimate the non-Federation content in the franchise.
TOS - 79 episodes
TAS - 22 episodes
TNG - 179 episodes
DS9 - 173 episodes
VOY - 168 episodes
ENT - 97 episodes
10 (+2 JJ) movies, 718 episodes.
Only maybe 1% of the franchise weren't about Starfleet (or its predecessor), and that's not including the movies. Were there even 8 episodes where Starfleet wasn't involved? I can only really recall Quark's misadventures. Even when Worf got out, the episodes still involved the rest of the TNG main cast.
They get away with "favoritism" because the franchise itself (Memory Alpha content) is entirely about Starfleet, and the vast majority of the Star Trek fanbase are focused on the Federation.
I was extremely surprised there was even a second faction in STO. The KDF seemed like it was just shoehorned in to appease the hardcore fans (who tend to be the only people who care about the Klingons), and even then just so there would be some form of PvP.
I got the free Fed DSD from the 4th year Anniversary event. I didn't create my KDF toon soon enough to collect all the Qmmendations for the free KDF DSD.
I never bothered to even take my Fed DSD out of spacedock. It does not seem like anything special to me. I will likely delete it if I start running out of ship slots.
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The new KDF raptor seems interesting. I for one am hoping for a 5fore/2 aft weapon layout with 5 tac consoles. As for the bridge layout, I don't mind specialization, but too many tactical abilities get cumbersome. Especially the spare rank 1 tac ability. I was hoping for a special disruptor cannon like the andorian has the phaser wing cannons. But we can't have everything I suppose. Gimmick consoles bore me, so I can care less about it.
you have a point but after a while the sheer number imbalance, plus alot kdf ship being somewhat weaker. gets rather discouraging. don't get me wrong I love my kdf ships but they could at least pretend they're trying to be fair. at this point throwing in cheap copy and paste ships as filler would be welcome.
and you can bet on it not getting 5 tact slots... they do everything they can to avoid giving the warlike faction the best warships.
if I stop posting it doesn't make you right it. just means I don't have enough rum to continue interacting with you.
why not? they let the feds do it in General Discussion all the time. we atleast have it in the klingon section.
if I stop posting it doesn't make you right it. just means I don't have enough rum to continue interacting with you.
Ok let me clarify, this type of thread, from anyone, in any part of the forum.
Anyhow, I love the fact that the KDF and Romulans have so few ships when compared to the Feds. My head wants to explode at how many Fed ships I have, and it seems so much that I don't even try to play any of them but maybe two. Switching around and trying them all in the other two factions seems doable. The issue, to me, is that Feds have too many ships, not that the other two factions need more.
ATTENTION- There are two other factions that you Devs need to pay attention to. I hated Voyager personallty, mostly because it was yet another federation centric show with a very unlikable captain. All the rest of her crew were so much better. Those of us spending money on your game demand more attention to the two red headed step child factions. It's insulting to see 5 fed ships with unique skins and then two each for the other factions that are minor changes to existing skins.
Thank you
ive opened more lockboxs kdf side thats why both my kdf have lockbox ships. I have payed for more respecs more bank space kdf side.
My only Rom is kdf but has it done kdf any good no it has not.
As for kdf players calling feds stuff well its roleplay plus a bit of fact. Pug cse with 4 feds higher chance of mission failing then with a pug kdf team. This has not changed since i started playing im feb 2012 but it all so helps that kdf players 95% of the time dont ignore team chat like 50% of feds do.
J'mpok has said we will align with the Federation against the our foes. Fine. I say give them 100 new ships so they can keep up.
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So naturally STO reflects that.
So get used to it, you call them "Feddy Bears" yet you're the ones crying
Typical KDF players it's what puts me off playing the KDF side
its easy to say these things when you get all the toys.
imo the only reason cryptic even kept a 2nd faction is because they had to. they have demonstrated their resentment ever since. the only other plausible reason for the shabby treatment is outright incompetence.
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The KDF has done their part and supported all the cash items but we can't spend money on stuff that never comes out. I think it is silly that people are getting mad at a group that want to give cryptic money for ships and items. All we are asking is for items to spend out money on.
Actually I play the Romulan Faction and like you we only get two ships in the Tier Six lineup.
I'm not complaining because I know that the Federation is the main Faction in the game naturally since the franchise is based on the Federation most people will play as the Federation and so Cryptic needs to do what is best to satisfy the majority of players.
In the words of a wise Vulcan "The needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few"
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The funny thing is that you're acusing people of making stereotypes while at the same time stereotyping people yourslef, all in the same reply.