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UUGGH! Four more weeks of this. :(
mhirtesc
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I know that the devs are still dev'ing, but I really do wish they would issue some sort of FAQ about all of these questions everyone have about Delta Rising and what it means to everyone's hard-earned inventory of items. People have a legitimate right to be very concerned about trying to keep their favorite gear relevant and it's only fair that they should at least have an inkling as to how such an upgrade will be performed.
So far, all we've got is a hint that Crafting is going to be revamped and all of our mats will have to be converted over to some new form of mats. And something about Research in order to upgrade our gear that sounds suspiciously like Crafting. I really, really, reallyreallyreallyreally do not want to have a Disruptor pressed against my head to grind Crafting. I hope that there will be an alternative way to get MK XIV stuff. I.do.not.like.crafting.
You'd think that Cryptic would prefer to have forum messages like "Oh man! I can't wait till Delta Rising is here!", but because of the mystery and lack of hard info, it's more like "Oh man! Cryptic is gonna shove it up our backsides!".
Sorry about the rambling, but it's after 2AM here and what little trickle of data that I can seem to get out of what's in store for us seems to be butt-ugly bad news about a good game being turned into a complete train wreck.
So far, all we've got is a hint that Crafting is going to be revamped and all of our mats will have to be converted over to some new form of mats. And something about Research in order to upgrade our gear that sounds suspiciously like Crafting. I really, really, reallyreallyreallyreally do not want to have a Disruptor pressed against my head to grind Crafting. I hope that there will be an alternative way to get MK XIV stuff. I.do.not.like.crafting.
You'd think that Cryptic would prefer to have forum messages like "Oh man! I can't wait till Delta Rising is here!", but because of the mystery and lack of hard info, it's more like "Oh man! Cryptic is gonna shove it up our backsides!".
Sorry about the rambling, but it's after 2AM here and what little trickle of data that I can seem to get out of what's in store for us seems to be butt-ugly bad news about a good game being turned into a complete train wreck.
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I'm sure cyptic would love a happy reaction to something they did... but they can't even give things away without some whining... which is why they treat us like mushrooms.
if I stop posting it doesn't make you right it. just means I don't have enough rum to continue interacting with you.
Then perhaps they should look back at some of the TRIBBLE they have released lately. Rushed, unfinished, badly-designed, bugged grindfests, that are getting further away from the IP and established ST design with every new season, some of which unneccesarily break features which have been working ok (e.g. Doff UI).
Just look at the new crafting system and the revamped doff UI: did anyone at Cryptic actually think that what they released was a well-designed, working mechanic that people would be having fun using and playing with? after all the flak they cought when it was released on tribble and with all the flak they're still catching?
If you release something where you didn't get a single positive reaction beforehand and you still go ahead and push it through, you simply don't deserve a "happy reaction"...
STO has had its up and downs, but I've been pretty satisfied with about 95% of it...
That said, even I think the new R&D Crafting addition leaves very much to be desired.
I was away from the game during the time it was introduced and have just within that last three weeks or so, been fiddling with it.
I am not impressed
I've pretty much given up on it since I discovered that even if I get to level 15 in a category...,
...If I don't have the Impossible Rare DOffs that are required, I won't be able to craft the stuff I want anyway.
That seems more than stupid to me.
Four to five months to get a discipline to Level 15 and once there, all I can do is manufacture the same stuff I was doing to get there in the first place.
WTH???
I Was A Trekkie Before It Was Cool ... Sept. 8th, 1966 ... Not To Mention Before Most Folks Around Here Were Born!
Forever a STO Veteran-Minion
considing the game is still here I'm going to say best most people don't care or actually like what their doing.
like doffing the complain were you can't sort and it's ugly... ugly is subjective so of limited use a not a week later the added sorting back and had originally done some under the hood changes so it now goes for crits. so the system it's self is actually better off. but people haven't let go and are determined to hold grudge even though it got fixed quickly. I swear if people on the forum put half as much energy into making a game as they do finding fault. we would have a perfect star trek mmo before the year was over.
crafting? very few people used it before so worse case, it changed nothing though I use the new system and didn't use the old one. and as I recall, ithe main complain was you can't choose your mod, I remember it being said thats coming in X2. but I don't remember where and it hasn't happened yet so think what you will about it.
and those are the only two good complains I've heard in two years. not counting make more of x ones.
if I stop posting it doesn't make you right it. just means I don't have enough rum to continue interacting with you.
Been around since Dec 2010 on STO and bought LTS in Apr 2013 for STO.
Sometimes, if you want to bury the hatchet with a Klingon, it has to be in his skull. - Captain K'Tar of the USS Danu about J'mpok.
there's white R&D doffs also. you just lose some of the bonus to crit
logically... if the doff costs less and can make you ec. even if you make only a few omni beams it could possibly make the cost back fairly easily.
if I stop posting it doesn't make you right it. just means I don't have enough rum to continue interacting with you.
If I get the materials, invest the dilithium (that I will need for gear upgrades in Delta Rising) etc....
Sometimes, if you want to bury the hatchet with a Klingon, it has to be in his skull. - Captain K'Tar of the USS Danu about J'mpok.
^^ Hear ye him!
I can wait till Delta Rising is here - I have a little virtue called "patience", unlike so many in the vocal minority on these forums...
I am, at the same time, looking forward to it...
Edit: sorry, tired and accessing forum from my phone. What I said is nonsense as has been revealed and players are discussing in other threads, the system is entirely connected to crafting, to the point you can't upgrade gear if that character isn't invested in that type. Imo, to the complete detriment of the game. I may be coming off sto for a while with this expansion at this rate.
I'm sitting with three at level 10 at the moment and not one bit of dilithium has been spent. There is always an alternative if you are willing to take it, some people are impatient though.
Level 10 is a joke. XP needed for level 10: 180,000. XP needed for level 15: 630,000. XP needed for level 20: 2,070,000.
they certainly wont ask the one big question I have.
how they felt it was fair and proper to give away so many free T5 upgrades but only to target the few select ships that users have already paid to use as the ones that players have to pay for an upgrade, essentially relegating these ships to third rate status for players who cant or wont pay for the upgrade.
When I think about everything we've been through together,
maybe it's not the destination that matters, maybe it's the journey,
and if that journey takes a little longer,
so we can do something we all believe in,
I can't think of any place I'd rather be or any people I'd rather be with.
Not 1 actual tester stated this. Those posts are by the usual doomsayers/trolls trying to get ppl upset.
Excuse me? I'm not trolling anything. I'm annoyed at the way that Cryptic is keeping us in the dark. I know that they're still working on code, but they could at least give us some sort of hint as to what they have in mind for the game after October 14th. The only fragments we have been able to get have been nothing but bad news of ugly ships and impending resource sinks.
For example, the idea of revamping the Crafting system all over again that will knock everyone back to Square One, and all Geko does is have the gall to say in so many words "Well, you get to keep the Aegis gear that you crafted". If I was one of those people who had dumped huge amounts of Dil to power-level during the Crafting Event last month only to find out that my levels were going to be reset to 0, I'd be royally p***ed at hearing this.
Cryptic needs to give us something GOOD to look forward to. Not news of "I hope you're rich cuz this stuff's gonna cost you a lot, and it's gonna take weeks for you to grind it".
Couldn't agree more. I was leveling and then i noticed these materials for crafting, I was like okay,,,where do those come from.... Elite only RNG drops. No thanks! I should be able to manufacture them! This is scifi not some magic game where I have to use enchants combined to get a higher random enchant. It's ridiculous.
Ummm... This is exactly what they are doing... Information is being released as they are ready to do so...
It's not Cryptic's fault you simply lack the patience to wait for information updates...
I'm presuming you're new to MMO's, as this is exactly the same process that every MMO I have ever played goes through, prior to an expansion... Even then, I never sat on the forums of my first MMO virtually demanding a developer speed up their information cycle during my first MMO expansion...
Further more, I'm noticing a pattern here with your posts... 'Instant gratification'... You complain that something may actually take time to obtain, however, you then complain that speeding it up through Zen purchases or Dilithium is apparently unfair and apparently want Cryptic just give it to you...
What the hell are you even talking about?
Firstly, it's not that hard to obtain them, especially when pairing the 'Request Addtional R&D Assistance' Doff recruitment assignment...
Secondly, you expect just to magicly 'manufacture' specialist materials from nothing, interesting considering your next comment...
Your point? Scifi is fantasy, but with phasers instead of swords...
Where are you getting this misguided idea that Cryptic is revamping the Crafting system? They might add some crafting project that gives a tradeable item that is part of the upgrade process, but that is not revamping. If the crafting system is Crafting 3.0, then we should eventually get Crafting 3.1 to 3.9, but never Crafting 4.0 since that would be a crafting revamp. It would be like Microsoft releases Windows 9 and a few months later releases Windows 10. No successful company would ever do something that stupid.
Most of us knew that this would not be the final revision of the Crafting system since Cryptic loves to beat systems to death (Reputation, Fleet Holdings, Lockboxes) if they are found to be successful and ignore (Interiors) or remove (Exploration, Terradome) systems if they aren't successful. After all, the last crafting equipment is unlocked at level 15, but the system goes up to level 20 so there should eventually be some crafting equipment available at level 20.
Cryptic has been more vocal about their plans in the past, but players have called the devs liars due to some planned feature being canned because it was unfeasible to accomplish. So they are damned if they are more vocal and damned if they are less vocal, but being cryptic is better than being called a liar. If Cryptic is not releasing certain information, then either it is Marketing's fault or they haven't finalized everything.
That's the thing that really pizzizz me off...
Even if you do really well in an Elite STF, you're not guaranteed anything but what you get, Doing Regular STF's.
Come on Cryptic, that IS NOT an incentive to do something I really don't like doing.
(and I kinda-sorta suk at anyway)
I've played 8 Elite STF's over the last few days (which is more than I've done in the last SIX months) and the best I got from 8 R&D crates was Five blue items... Total.
The rest were all Green or worse.
You already have a Craptastic money maker in the Lockboxes.
How about giving Your player-base a bone here???
<grumble..., grumble..., grumble...>
:rolleyes:
I Was A Trekkie Before It Was Cool ... Sept. 8th, 1966 ... Not To Mention Before Most Folks Around Here Were Born!
Forever a STO Veteran-Minion
The odds of getting the Purple R&D materials is ridiculously low.
I've also done at least 9 of the R&D Assignments over the last three weeks and again, the best I've received is Blue Quality only.
Tying up a DOff slot for 48 hours, at the least, should get a player ONE Purple crafting item.
The same with Elite STF's, every crate should give at the very least, ONE Purple item.
The way it is now..., there is really no incentive for a slightly-more-than-casual player, to even try anymore.
I Was A Trekkie Before It Was Cool ... Sept. 8th, 1966 ... Not To Mention Before Most Folks Around Here Were Born!
Forever a STO Veteran-Minion
If that is true, Cryptic has really come full circle in terms of how they felt about random drops.
It should never be random, and the player should know how much he/she needs to play a certain STF in order to earn whatever is needed to craft said gear. It honestly is better for both sides.
It's pretty obvious that you're attempting to be an apologist for Cryptic, and you completely overlooked what I had just written previously.
As I said, imagine burning through mountains of Dil during the Crafting Weekend and now you just found out that they're revamping crafting and putting everyone back to Zero. Talk about a punch in the junk to everyone who got suckered.
I have yet to see a Crafting system in ANY MMO that isn't designed on purpose to be a huge resource and time sink with very little payout in the end to justify it. The idea of selling boxes of mats through the C Store makes it even more obvious as to why Cryptic implemented such a thing.
And your accusation that I don't want to spend months doing the same mindless thing over and over is me wanting "instant gratification" is insulting. Imagine a looooooooong hallway that you have to walk down in order to reach a door at the far end, and when you get there and open that door, what you find is yet another long hallway with another door in the distance. Well guess what? We're sick of walking down hallways one after another! We want to start playing the game instead of working on it.
We aren't asking to be in the meeting room during development, but we DO want to have the freakin' foggiest of a clue as to WTF they have planned so we can at least spend these few remaining weeks preparing for it. Is that really too much to ask??
Which is why I only did the STFs a few times before Season 7 to get the Borg set. A guarantee is much better than a lousy RNG. 65 tries is far better than some people that did the same STF 300 times and no Mk XII STF drop.