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Flagships should be full T6 ships.
senatorvreenak
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They are supposed to be Flagships, top-of-the line of the fleets.
Just seems completely wrong for them to be inferior to a new line of ship and not have the bells and whistles of them.
Just seems completely wrong for them to be inferior to a new line of ship and not have the bells and whistles of them.
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Flagships are already inferior, ships like the Mogh and the Avenger put the Bortasque and Oddessy to shame.
Do you think the Galaxy was top of the line right before the D was destroyed in Generations? Do you think the E was top of the line with all the new ships and tech that has came out up until the F was made?
the Odyssey scimitar and borta'squ are the flagships of each faction.
and which exception to the scimitar both the fed and KDF one are less than a year old and are now outdated which is insane.
"It appears we have lost our sex appeal, captain."- Tuvok
What are you basing your thoughts on this?
See here:
http://img3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20130815124007/transformers-legends/images/thumb/c/c4/Triple-facepalm.jpg/640px-Triple-facepalm.jpg
Exactly, there is no logic to it.
Seriously It takes more than just a year to completely design, build and introduce a new fleet of starships that outclasses everything that came before.
None of which were made obsolete less than a year after the introduction of their CLASS. :rolleyes:
a valid argument.
however both the galaxy and Constitution were many years old by then in the st timeline, where as the Odyssey is technically only a year old if even that.
"It appears we have lost our sex appeal, captain."- Tuvok
The Scimitar joined the Romulan fleet in 2379, and in game it is 2410. Making the Scimitar 31 years old.
It has been available for people to play for a year now.
Time for a new flag ship.
I believe that was my point, the Scimitar is the only current flagship that is a outdated vessel.
and where is your basis for that?
starfleet has a huge amount of shipyards and vast production and designers in a time of war it isn't far fetched that new ships could be designed and made in a year.
"It appears we have lost our sex appeal, captain."- Tuvok
Either way in the next gen series they stated very early on the the Galaxy class was the most advanced ship and the Enterprise E was still the most advanced ship after a year cannon.
"It appears we have lost our sex appeal, captain."- Tuvok
No. No. NO.
There are always a generation of ships in development ahead of the flagship. Top of the line yes? bleeding edge tech no.
Idk about you guys but it beres a strong resemblence to the USS Vengeance in JJ Trek?
Norway and Yeager dammit... I still want my Typhoon and Jupiter though.
JJ Trek The Kelvin Timeline is just Trek and it's fully canon... get over it. But I still prefer TAR.
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The basis comes from established backstories for existing ship classes, which typically took a few years of development, let alone the actual construction. The Galaxy class, for example, had a design phase of roughly 5 years (give or take a couple), and the Enterprise-D itself took at least a full year to be built and commissioned.
However, it should be noted that most of the newer designs have ben released over the course of the past 15 years, rather than the assumed two-year timespan. The USS Rapier, for example, is established in one of the Cardassian-series missions as having been lost for "almost 10 years", which means the Rapier class ships were first activated in 2399. Other ships like the Luna and Vesta have been around since the 2380's (despite the latter being released to us later than that).
At least some of the "new" ships that have been released in the last game year or so are likely also existing ships that have recently become available. However, the Odyssey and later classes like the Regent, Avenger, Tempest, and Armitage are all firmly established as being brand new classes.
Basically, any ship that came out at launch is likely more than a few years old, and the ships released between then and now were all in development up until recently, with construction on the first batches finishing this past year.
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Again, the most advanced ships don't become "obsolete" a mere year after their introduction. :rolleyes:
why not?
technological advances are not on a time table. In RL ships become obsolete soon after launching. Is it impossible that a year after the ENT E launched another group of scientists and engineers got together and designed and built a ship more advanced then it?
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Well, the new Intelligence class is looking to throw a wrench into that.
No, actually, it isn't, because the Scimitar isn't a flagship. The Lleiset is a Tulwar-class, a new design based on the Scimitar chassis.
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1) I don't think old = obsolete.
2) That carrier was decommissioned and a new Enterprise is scheduled to be built
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Enterprise_(CVN-80)
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Obsolete to some simply means "not the most advanced design". There are newer ships with improvements over older ships - but that doesn't mean the old ships get thrown away and forgotten. They stay in service, get upgrades - they may lag behind, but they are still useful.
But in a STO, people often really want to use the best there is - because they rae not commanding a fleet of dozens of ships, and having one old and the new one together is better than just the new one. You can fly only one at a time, and there is no reason to take the weaker ship.
yes and no
flagship has two meanings....the commander of the fleet's ship and the ship that is the best of the best
in STO it means the best of the best
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