every Setup.. ervey Ship Combo.. every Fleet is vincible.
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There will never be "best of all time fleet", but we can have "best of the month fleet" if in sto there was some kind of official tournament mechanism or territory control between fleets.
i think many kdf, none less so than myself, developed a distaste for feddies in kerrat back in the days when everyone reset in the kdf spawn.
nearly every round went the same:
1 feds and kdf reset and warp into kdf spawn
2 most feddies sit at spawn and camp the kdf they outnumber 4:1
3 a handful of feddies evasive out and begin scanning borg
4 any feddies killed spawn safely unmolested in fed spawn, while kdf respawn into tractor pets, warp plasma, mines, and faw.
5 zone resets; goto 1
sometimes the kdf could go an hour without ever getting out of the spawn. the only real solution was to call in more kdf to push the feddies out of kdf spawn. it didnt take a whole lot of us either; even outnumbered 2:1 we could turn the tide, push the nub feddies back into their spawn, and basically sit on them for ages without resetting the zone.
i think thats the spirit of 'the kdf spawn camp', and i dont think any of us feel too bad about for doing it even today.
...was intended for nothing more then to troll... If a troll thread gets made then trolls will turn up to feed. No?
On this occasion it happened to be me, as well as other.
So.... I am sorry if I upset anyone, but I take exception to the second post. It simply was't necessary, so not entirely my fault if the train left the rails over there bud.
It don't happen often, an I hope the above goes someway to explaining 'The Why' as it were.
As you said that thread has now been closed, an for good reason.
I haven't said anything untoward in here though, plz keep that in mind.
Agreed, that did foster bad blood, but it was hardly the Fed's fault, more poor map design. Since then there have been good times and bad times on both sides, but the problem is HOBOs take it to another level, they are the proverbial gang land style bully boys who spawn camp, spam zone chat and in some cases make disgusting and highly insulting remarks against feds in zone chat. .
Agreed, the other non-HOBO KDF are fine, no issues with them at all in Kerrat. I have a KDF friend, a Bug ship pilot, whom I beat up all the time in Kerrat and he would call me a *troll* in open chat but everyone knows it's tongue in cheek. He even asked me to craft him an Aegis Engine. There is really no bad blood between Feds and Klinks per say in Kerrat these days, with the notable exception of HOBOs. Occasionally, we'll get some loud QQers like Seval (marconius) but that is to be expected in a game with a lot of players under 18.
They then go around stating they are the best PvP fleet and promptly get their bottom handed to them by the Panda's. They are a laughing stock when they should be a proud house of the Klingon Empire, if I were a member of HOBO I'd be looking for new leadership about now.
You really nailed the essence of the reactions in this thread. The reason why this thread is getting so much reactions that some would term as *celebrations* is not because the Sad Pandas are loved or cherished, it's because they humiliated the HOBO. It speaks volume about the bad blood HOBO has created in the 6 months that Sad Pandas disappeared, now that the Pandas returned and put HOBO in their place - all the people who were abused by HOBO in one form or the other can't help but cheer.
This is a good point, however I have to take issue with your first statement, I am in kerrat every day at some point, and I'm usually there for at least an hour, sometimes many hours, I've been going there for over 3 years. In that time I have seen both sides camp for sure, but none more than the KDF. There were fleets in the past on the FED side, I won't name them but one was German and one was Australian, that constantly sat over klink spawn, and you know what they got a lot of abuse from us Feds in there because it basically ruined the evening for all, we certainly didn't join them.
Sorry, gotta somewhat disagree with your first part of your post here.
Even with how much you are in Ker'rat, you are still not there 24/7, and even if you were, you'd still ONLY be seeing one zone at a time. Point is that you might have 'seen' more KDF spawn-camping over the years, but it doesn't mean that it is true.
I'm not denying that spawn camping happens. There are no 'innocent sides' in that no matter what people might say. I'm saying that claiming 'X side spawn camps more than Y side' is really a futile matter because in the end you are only looking at it from one person's POV, and not even on a truly game-wide view or a long-term scale.
i think many kdf, none less so than myself, developed a distaste for feddies in kerrat back in the days when everyone reset in the kdf spawn.
nearly every round went the same:
sometimes the kdf could go an hour without ever getting out of the spawn. the only real solution was to call in more kdf to push the feddies out of kdf spawn. it didnt take a whole lot of us either; even outnumbered 2:1 we could turn the tide, push the nub feddies back into their spawn, and basically sit on them for ages without resetting the zone.
I do agree with that. Getting constantly camped back in ye-olden days got really tiring.
But that wasn't the only way of breaking a spawn camp. There were other things one could do. My personal favorite being:
Tricobalt Mines
Oh yes, nothing like a B'rel...tac officer (in the days before Nausicaan BOFFs were fixed), go run out and purposefully die so I can be sent back to spawn. Then fully buff up and launch a DPB 4 of Tric mines, followed up by a normal single mine, and wait for the reset then...
KABOOM!!!
On a good hit, I could easily break 6 digits per mine back then, even on a non-tac if I was really lucky. A tac could get it super-easy. What Feds didn't die would either be weakened or at the very least, alone and easy to take down.
It was a good solid way of breaking a hard spawn camp by yourself, though another person dropping even one tric mine would help as well. Did people do this and pre-mine the spawn to be *******s sometimes, camping or no? Yes, again, like camping itself, there were NO innocent sides in all this either. But at least mining the spawn was a good way of breaking a camp if you needed to.
I remain empathetic to the concerns of my community, but do me a favor and lay off the god damn name calling and petty remarks. It will get you nowhere.
I must admit, respect points to Trendy for laying down the law like that.
That was when I got disgusted.. Not because of the PVP. But because of the Chat conversation. So sorry if I personally don't find that kind of conversation to be considered good sportsman ship. Or if it then makes me dislike the person that makes those comments. But hey.. I guess you have to be your self at least some of the time, right brah?
Next time.. Try to heed your own Signature.. Because you should know.. your never supposed to go Full ******. Yet.. You did.
You think that your beta test was bad?
Think about this: American Football has been in open beta for 144 years. ~Kotaku
I was wondering how does a team this disorganized on the t.s. put up the numbers they do?
but I suppose if your only job is to point the ship in a direction and push 2 buttons and some clicky consoles, then ya, you can just react pretty fast, to opportunities that pop up in the 5v5
still an awsome match to watch, was nice and close there in the beginning, gg
I was wondering how does a team this disorganized on the t.s. put up the numbers they do?
but I suppose if your only job is to point the ship in a direction and push 2 buttons and some clicky consoles, then ya, you can just react pretty fast, to opportunities that pop up in the 5v5
still an awsome match to watch, was nice and close there in the beginning, gg
This comes up every 2-3 months or so, I usually ignore it, but you don't appear to making any assumptions based on a 3rd party "re-creation"
That program was a thing, it did not auto-heal or anything that video suggests. It was simply a way to emulate a gaming keyboard without actually having one. It did nothing that couldn't be done on any macro-capable keyboard. Plain and simple. If you want to check out our Youtube channel, you can plainly see in our premade matches that abilities are being clicked.
Frankly, that type of "auto-pilot" that is being suggested in that video would be more of a hindrance in PvP since it has no skill, intuition or ability to change it's plan. It just wouldn't be worth it and definitely wouldn't help win high-level matches.
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There is no " the best Fleet " here,..
every Setup.. ervey Ship Combo.. every Fleet is vincible.
greetings
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There will never be "best of all time fleet", but we can have "best of the month fleet" if in sto there was some kind of official tournament mechanism or territory control between fleets.
nearly every round went the same:
1 feds and kdf reset and warp into kdf spawn
2 most feddies sit at spawn and camp the kdf they outnumber 4:1
3 a handful of feddies evasive out and begin scanning borg
4 any feddies killed spawn safely unmolested in fed spawn, while kdf respawn into tractor pets, warp plasma, mines, and faw.
5 zone resets; goto 1
sometimes the kdf could go an hour without ever getting out of the spawn. the only real solution was to call in more kdf to push the feddies out of kdf spawn. it didnt take a whole lot of us either; even outnumbered 2:1 we could turn the tide, push the nub feddies back into their spawn, and basically sit on them for ages without resetting the zone.
i think thats the spirit of 'the kdf spawn camp', and i dont think any of us feel too bad about for doing it even today.
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This is flaming...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hBiJlipZf14&feature=youtu.be
I agree.
Close the thread. It ain't going anywhere...
[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
Please keep the QQ to a minimum.
>>>PUNISH THE FEDs<<<
>>>Positive Feedback from a PvE HERO<<<
In before close.. Your the last one that really has the right to agree with a close after the way you behaved in the last one brah. :cool:
Think about this:
American Football has been in open beta for 144 years. ~Kotaku
I'm pleased you of all people replied to me, on this occasion.
This was my original reply to this thread - Page #4 / Post #35 >>> http://sto-forum.perfectworld.com/showpost.php?p=18643391&postcount=35
Hope you will agree there ain't nothing wrong with that.
In-fact a pretty respectful response to what I consider to be a legit 1st post >>> http://sto-forum.perfectworld.com/showpost.php?p=18638161&postcount=1
Pandas had every right to make THIS thread, they wanted somewhere to host the video.
The ribbing, along with the vid in this post, was totally fine as well.
Bragging rights are a part of the game etc etc...
So again nothing wrong with the OP. Hence my reply...
Now this thread on the other hand >>> http://sto-forum.perfectworld.com/showthread.php?t=1197401
...was intended for nothing more then to troll... If a troll thread gets made then trolls will turn up to feed. No?
On this occasion it happened to be me, as well as other.
So.... I am sorry if I upset anyone, but I take exception to the second post. It simply was't necessary, so not entirely my fault if the train left the rails over there bud.
It don't happen often, an I hope the above goes someway to explaining 'The Why' as it were.
As you said that thread has now been closed, an for good reason.
I haven't said anything untoward in here though, plz keep that in mind.
D,
[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
Please keep the QQ to a minimum.
>>>PUNISH THE FEDs<<<
>>>Positive Feedback from a PvE HERO<<<
Agreed, the other non-HOBO KDF are fine, no issues with them at all in Kerrat. I have a KDF friend, a Bug ship pilot, whom I beat up all the time in Kerrat and he would call me a *troll* in open chat but everyone knows it's tongue in cheek. He even asked me to craft him an Aegis Engine. There is really no bad blood between Feds and Klinks per say in Kerrat these days, with the notable exception of HOBOs. Occasionally, we'll get some loud QQers like Seval (marconius) but that is to be expected in a game with a lot of players under 18.
You really nailed the essence of the reactions in this thread. The reason why this thread is getting so much reactions that some would term as *celebrations* is not because the Sad Pandas are loved or cherished, it's because they humiliated the HOBO. It speaks volume about the bad blood HOBO has created in the 6 months that Sad Pandas disappeared, now that the Pandas returned and put HOBO in their place - all the people who were abused by HOBO in one form or the other can't help but cheer.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hBiJlipZf14&feature=youtu.be
Not entirely helpful...
As I said before, please close this thread.
D,
[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
Please keep the QQ to a minimum.
>>>PUNISH THE FEDs<<<
>>>Positive Feedback from a PvE HERO<<<
Sorry, gotta somewhat disagree with your first part of your post here.
Even with how much you are in Ker'rat, you are still not there 24/7, and even if you were, you'd still ONLY be seeing one zone at a time. Point is that you might have 'seen' more KDF spawn-camping over the years, but it doesn't mean that it is true.
I'm not denying that spawn camping happens. There are no 'innocent sides' in that no matter what people might say. I'm saying that claiming 'X side spawn camps more than Y side' is really a futile matter because in the end you are only looking at it from one person's POV, and not even on a truly game-wide view or a long-term scale.
I do agree with that. Getting constantly camped back in ye-olden days got really tiring.
But that wasn't the only way of breaking a spawn camp. There were other things one could do. My personal favorite being:
Tricobalt Mines
Oh yes, nothing like a B'rel...tac officer (in the days before Nausicaan BOFFs were fixed), go run out and purposefully die so I can be sent back to spawn. Then fully buff up and launch a DPB 4 of Tric mines, followed up by a normal single mine, and wait for the reset then...
KABOOM!!!
On a good hit, I could easily break 6 digits per mine back then, even on a non-tac if I was really lucky. A tac could get it super-easy. What Feds didn't die would either be weakened or at the very least, alone and easy to take down.
It was a good solid way of breaking a hard spawn camp by yourself, though another person dropping even one tric mine would help as well. Did people do this and pre-mine the spawn to be *******s sometimes, camping or no? Yes, again, like camping itself, there were NO innocent sides in all this either. But at least mining the spawn was a good way of breaking a camp if you needed to.
That was when I got disgusted.. Not because of the PVP. But because of the Chat conversation. So sorry if I personally don't find that kind of conversation to be considered good sportsman ship. Or if it then makes me dislike the person that makes those comments. But hey.. I guess you have to be your self at least some of the time, right brah?
Next time.. Try to heed your own Signature.. Because you should know.. your never supposed to go Full ******. Yet.. You did.
Think about this:
American Football has been in open beta for 144 years. ~Kotaku
Skills and key-binds thats how they do it !!!
This comes up every 2-3 months or so, I usually ignore it, but you don't appear to making any assumptions based on a 3rd party "re-creation"
That program was a thing, it did not auto-heal or anything that video suggests. It was simply a way to emulate a gaming keyboard without actually having one. It did nothing that couldn't be done on any macro-capable keyboard. Plain and simple. If you want to check out our Youtube channel, you can plainly see in our premade matches that abilities are being clicked.
Frankly, that type of "auto-pilot" that is being suggested in that video would be more of a hindrance in PvP since it has no skill, intuition or ability to change it's plan. It just wouldn't be worth it and definitely wouldn't help win high-level matches.