What is going to be fantastic is when they get all mouthy thinking they have the new meta builds again... all ready to counter us. Then they get to see the next new meta team.
What is this meta people keep talking about? What does it really mean?
Don't worry, your precious tech doffs are safe. Devs know they can't force the training wheels off the majority of the player base.
Lol, good thing i dont use A2B on any of my toons or ships . I understand why it is so popular, but sometimes i wonder why people use it in the way they do, shrugs all well, if that is the way they wish to play i am all for it, everyone has their "staple" or "thing" with their ships.
This Panda has been using double TBR w/ pull doff since the day they were released. You might have noticed. Anyway, if people wanna go on thinking we got the idea for this build from an outside source, go ahead.
Yep, I remember bumping into you some time back in a pug match - had fun yanking away at each other, with me desperately chaining PH and BFI.
Anyways, if TBR pull is becoming FotM, looks like it's time for me to hunt for a different build. Pity, cause I've been using reverse TBR for about 4-6 months now.
Don't worry, your precious tech doffs are safe. Devs know they can't force the training wheels off the majority of the player base.
whats funny is how up in arms people are about this tac captain toy, wile sci rules the roost. pve'er logic i guess. with the way gecko handled an AtB question at the con, etc, its almost assured they are going to ruin it, and all the ships that cant be competitive without it.
Personally, I blame inner circle. The TRIBBLE shared their technology lol :P.
Actually IC had a very large roll in pointing out a very large weakness in alpha build of the team naz bieber and I spent the time since we've come back working on. Yes tbr is old meta. No we didn't come up with using tbr+pull, the team build however... sorry no other fleet "helped" us with it besides finding weak points to fix.
Suspiciously hobos came into the match with the perfect counter to our build, that we had already experienced and adjust for via IC practice matches. When they switched to drain builds.... yeah... you could hear how happy we were at how squish they made themselves.
Now what needs to happen is a Sad Pandas Vs Hobos in Ker'rat! See who can get more fleet mates into Ker'rat vs Quality PVP Setups! :P
We showed up... they headed to nvak. I hear they came back later after most of our guys where off for the evening... I understand they also enacted Attack pattern Zeta (Defensive pattern that involves filling a 20 man zone with 18 of your friends so you can properly protect yourselves from the evils of 2 enemy players, never hurts to have a couple of those friends on the other side as well so you can properly warn the team should danger enter).
All well forget the RP central stuffz... perhaps they will pull there S together a bit to a point where people won't have to stipulate no cheating rules like console swaps ect... and get enough good Private matches in vs actual pvpers that they can perhaps field a quality team where they can sub quality experienced players in any time they are needed to play with the big boys. It is easy to claim your undefeted if the only matches you claim as counting are the ones you win. If you loose of course there has to be a member on that isn't A-team material. Its a pretty easy out.
We showed up... they headed to nvak. I hear they came back later after most of our guys where off for the evening... I understand they also enacted Attack pattern Zeta (Defensive pattern that involves filling a 20 man zone with 18 of your friends so you can properly protect yourselves from the evils of 2 enemy players, never hurts to have a couple of those friends on the other side as well so you can properly warn the team should danger enter).
It gets better. They had a private match queued up so they could warp out on command from mid-battle.
No, I mean for the HoBos who were dogfighting with us, got down to 30% hull, warped out while at red alert while under fire, and warped back in thirty seconds later.
No, I mean for the HoBos who were dogfighting with us, got down to 30% hull, warped out while at red alert while under fire, and warped back in thirty seconds later.
Perhaps the private they did ended just that fast.
Congrats Guys, I really enjoyed the video, and watching you lot do that match in real time (in a sense) was very interesting.
Well done
Yes, i always love to see sad-panda's, im not a real pvp'r but played with you a couple times with you while being on your ts3, always make me fell happy !!!
I find it kind of odd...all the hatred being tossed around at HOBO - cause well, if they're not around; it's usually the Feds that are doing the exact thing to the KDF in Ker'rat. Massively outnumbering and camping the Hell out of the spawn...
...so yeah, sometimes it's a case of sending out the HOBOsignal in the hopes that they come and clear that Fed TRIBBLE out of the zone.
But it's Ker'rat - it's always been like that...one side outnumbering the other side and camping. Hell, if there are two zones - odds are the Feds are camping in one zone and the KDF are camping in the other zone.
There are some Feds that don't camp just like there are some KDF that don't camp - there likely the folks that would have glitched to the other side back in the day to try to help break the camp.
But there are a Hell of a lot of Feds that do camp...and there just aren't a Hell of a lot of KDF fleets to return the favor...so where there might be dozens of Fed fleets to share the blame on the Fed side so nobody really stands out, for the KDF it basically falls on HOBO - so they eat the blame.
I find it kind of odd...all the hatred being tossed around at HOBO - cause well, if they're not around; it's usually the Feds that are doing the exact thing to the KDF in Ker'rat. Massively outnumbering and camping the Hell out of the spawn...
for the KDF it basically falls on HOBO - so they eat the blame.
Thanks, this is true unfortunately. Whenever we do try to go in small numbers there are almost always fed ganksquads spawn camping. As one of the few KDF pvp fleets that has the numbers to always bring in reinforcements to break these situations we end up always being the "bad guy" by default.
Sometimes I go around cloaked just to watch these Feds and you can see them just circling above the KDF spawn and not even trying to farm borg so many of these so called victims are not angels either, Feds come to kerrat just to gank and camp too.
I find it kind of odd...all the hatred being tossed around at HOBO - cause well, if they're not around; it's usually the Feds that are doing the exact thing to the KDF in Ker'rat. Massively outnumbering and camping the Hell out of the spawn...
...so yeah, sometimes it's a case of sending out the HOBOsignal in the hopes that they come and clear that Fed TRIBBLE out of the zone.
But it's Ker'rat - it's always been like that...one side outnumbering the other side and camping. Hell, if there are two zones - odds are the Feds are camping in one zone and the KDF are camping in the other zone.
There are some Feds that don't camp just like there are some KDF that don't camp - there likely the folks that would have glitched to the other side back in the day to try to help break the camp.
But there are a Hell of a lot of Feds that do camp...and there just aren't a Hell of a lot of KDF fleets to return the favor...so where there might be dozens of Fed fleets to share the blame on the Fed side so nobody really stands out, for the KDF it basically falls on HOBO - so they eat the blame.
I don't think the hobo hate has anything to do with ruling kerrat. Your right Virus Kerrat ruling has nothing at all to do with anything at all accept numbers. It doesn't take skill to rule a kerrat zone it simply requires numbers. At some point the zone limit gets hit and one side or the other is going to be outnumbered until the other side gets bored and leaves. Yes that is standard kerrat lately. Sure there where spawn camps back in the day its always been a part of kerrat... I would say from what I have seen it has been ratcheted up to 10 by this particular bully fleet.
What I believe the hobo hate really comes down to Virus is the Attitude. Its not that they close down a zone its that they are plain mean in there implementation. Its one thing to roll play a bit in zone like say someone like Dagger used to do playing romulan and saying disparaging things about feds in general. It is something very different though when some of these guys start getting very personal in there verbal attacks. Or when they decide to do something asinine like spam zone chat.
A little role play fun is fine... a lot of nasty role play that cross over into harassment territory however is not cool.
I have played with and against some frankly insane folk over the life of STO... what I have been seeing though is really honestly some of the worst behaviour I have seen yet, and that's saying something.
There's a reason that I do not have any Fed toons. Hell, after 7 months (since deleting them at the end of last year - I ran 50/50 until then) I figured I'd go ahead and roll one. He lasted four days before I deleted him. Still kick myself for all the Zen, Dil, EC, resources that I wasted on him...but if I was stupid enough to roll a Fed again, I'd gladly accept having to kick myself for any resources after deleting the toon again.
It's not a blanket statement against all Feds. There are a bunch of great guys that roll Fed.
But there are enough Feds that aren't great guys...that I want nothing to do with the faction.
I'm not some Klingon fan...lol...Star Trek was about the Federation and Starfleet. I'd love to be flying around in a Cruiser getting my Kirk on. But I just don't want to be associated with the Feds in this game...and nothing that HOBO has done compares in the least to the garbage I've seen from Feds. Even the fine folks that do fly Fed...they just don't make up for all the TRIBBLE out there.
edit: There's no naming or shaming allowed, otherwise our more militant community team will start dropping out Warning Clusters that chain crit...but honestly, in the past couple of years there are at least three KDF fleets that come to mind that make the HOBOs look like they help little old ladies across the street every chance they get. Those were fleets that left me thinking about not running any KDF toons just like I don't run any Fed toons now.
There's a reason that I do not have any Fed toons. Hell, after 7 months (since deleting them at the end of last year - I ran 50/50 until then) I figured I'd go ahead and roll one. He lasted four days before I deleted him. Still kick myself for all the Zen, Dil, EC, resources that I wasted on him...but if I was stupid enough to roll a Fed again, I'd gladly accept having to kick myself for any resources after deleting the toon again.
It's not a blanket statement against all Feds. There are a bunch of great guys that roll Fed.
But there are enough Feds that aren't great guys...that I want nothing to do with the faction.
I'm not some Klingon fan...lol...Star Trek was about the Federation and Starfleet. I'd love to be flying around in a Cruiser getting my Kirk on. But I just don't want to be associated with the Feds in this game...and nothing that HOBO has done compares in the least to the garbage I've seen from Feds. Even the fine folks that do fly Fed...they just don't make up for all the TRIBBLE out there.
edit: There's no naming or shaming allowed, otherwise our more militant community team will start dropping out Warning Clusters that chain crit...but honestly, in the past couple of years there are at least three KDF fleets that come to mind that make the HOBOs look like they help little old ladies across the street every chance they get. Those were fleets that left me thinking about not running any KDF toons just like I don't run any Fed toons now.
i'd never connect that to factions as the fact stands: "specials" are everywhere! why border urself cause of their behaviour?
imo also the attitude of a well-educated (ingame lol) fleet stands out in comparison to those of the hordes of newbs.
...so i switched fleets rather than deleting my klink ...
The reason there is so much "forum pvp" is because there is no pvp content in game, Devs please add more content to keep pvpers busy Add at least a fleet leaderboard, so we can see on game numbers who really is best fleet. :cool:
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What is this meta people keep talking about? What does it really mean?
Don't worry, your precious tech doffs are safe. Devs know they can't force the training wheels off the majority of the player base.
Lol, good thing i dont use A2B on any of my toons or ships
Yep, I remember bumping into you some time back in a pug match - had fun yanking away at each other, with me desperately chaining PH and BFI.
Anyways, if TBR pull is becoming FotM, looks like it's time for me to hunt for a different build. Pity, cause I've been using reverse TBR for about 4-6 months now.
whats funny is how up in arms people are about this tac captain toy, wile sci rules the roost. pve'er logic i guess. with the way gecko handled an AtB question at the con, etc, its almost assured they are going to ruin it, and all the ships that cant be competitive without it.
Actually IC had a very large roll in pointing out a very large weakness in alpha build of the team naz bieber and I spent the time since we've come back working on. Yes tbr is old meta. No we didn't come up with using tbr+pull, the team build however... sorry no other fleet "helped" us with it besides finding weak points to fix.
Suspiciously hobos came into the match with the perfect counter to our build, that we had already experienced and adjust for via IC practice matches. When they switched to drain builds.... yeah... you could hear how happy we were at how squish they made themselves.
Think about this:
American Football has been in open beta for 144 years. ~Kotaku
We showed up... they headed to nvak. I hear they came back later after most of our guys where off for the evening... I understand they also enacted Attack pattern Zeta (Defensive pattern that involves filling a 20 man zone with 18 of your friends so you can properly protect yourselves from the evils of 2 enemy players, never hurts to have a couple of those friends on the other side as well so you can properly warn the team should danger enter).
All well forget the RP central stuffz... perhaps they will pull there S together a bit to a point where people won't have to stipulate no cheating rules like console swaps ect... and get enough good Private matches in vs actual pvpers that they can perhaps field a quality team where they can sub quality experienced players in any time they are needed to play with the big boys. It is easy to claim your undefeted if the only matches you claim as counting are the ones you win. If you loose of course there has to be a member on that isn't A-team material. Its a pretty easy out.
It gets better. They had a private match queued up so they could warp out on command from mid-battle.
No, we just left the zone.
No, I mean for the HoBos who were dogfighting with us, got down to 30% hull, warped out while at red alert while under fire, and warped back in thirty seconds later.
Perhaps the private they did ended just that fast.
i think he is talking about that console :[Console - Universal - Fluidic Phase Decoupler]
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Oh ok ya well I guess it has a 30s cool down.
I'm not. I know what a warp out looks like.
Yes, i always love to see sad-panda's, im not a real pvp'r but played with you a couple times with you while being on your ts3, always make me fell happy !!!
Maby deep inside me there is a pvp'r !!
...so yeah, sometimes it's a case of sending out the HOBOsignal in the hopes that they come and clear that Fed TRIBBLE out of the zone.
But it's Ker'rat - it's always been like that...one side outnumbering the other side and camping. Hell, if there are two zones - odds are the Feds are camping in one zone and the KDF are camping in the other zone.
There are some Feds that don't camp just like there are some KDF that don't camp - there likely the folks that would have glitched to the other side back in the day to try to help break the camp.
But there are a Hell of a lot of Feds that do camp...and there just aren't a Hell of a lot of KDF fleets to return the favor...so where there might be dozens of Fed fleets to share the blame on the Fed side so nobody really stands out, for the KDF it basically falls on HOBO - so they eat the blame.
Thanks, this is true unfortunately. Whenever we do try to go in small numbers there are almost always fed ganksquads spawn camping. As one of the few KDF pvp fleets that has the numbers to always bring in reinforcements to break these situations we end up always being the "bad guy" by default.
Sometimes I go around cloaked just to watch these Feds and you can see them just circling above the KDF spawn and not even trying to farm borg so many of these so called victims are not angels either, Feds come to kerrat just to gank and camp too.
I don't think the hobo hate has anything to do with ruling kerrat. Your right Virus Kerrat ruling has nothing at all to do with anything at all accept numbers. It doesn't take skill to rule a kerrat zone it simply requires numbers. At some point the zone limit gets hit and one side or the other is going to be outnumbered until the other side gets bored and leaves. Yes that is standard kerrat lately. Sure there where spawn camps back in the day its always been a part of kerrat... I would say from what I have seen it has been ratcheted up to 10 by this particular bully fleet.
What I believe the hobo hate really comes down to Virus is the Attitude. Its not that they close down a zone its that they are plain mean in there implementation. Its one thing to roll play a bit in zone like say someone like Dagger used to do playing romulan and saying disparaging things about feds in general. It is something very different though when some of these guys start getting very personal in there verbal attacks. Or when they decide to do something asinine like spam zone chat.
A little role play fun is fine... a lot of nasty role play that cross over into harassment territory however is not cool.
I have played with and against some frankly insane folk over the life of STO... what I have been seeing though is really honestly some of the worst behaviour I have seen yet, and that's saying something.
Just wish I could have been in there with you all...
RCK
It's not a blanket statement against all Feds. There are a bunch of great guys that roll Fed.
But there are enough Feds that aren't great guys...that I want nothing to do with the faction.
I'm not some Klingon fan...lol...Star Trek was about the Federation and Starfleet. I'd love to be flying around in a Cruiser getting my Kirk on. But I just don't want to be associated with the Feds in this game...and nothing that HOBO has done compares in the least to the garbage I've seen from Feds. Even the fine folks that do fly Fed...they just don't make up for all the TRIBBLE out there.
edit: There's no naming or shaming allowed, otherwise our more militant community team will start dropping out Warning Clusters that chain crit...but honestly, in the past couple of years there are at least three KDF fleets that come to mind that make the HOBOs look like they help little old ladies across the street every chance they get. Those were fleets that left me thinking about not running any KDF toons just like I don't run any Fed toons now.
i'd never connect that to factions as the fact stands: "specials" are everywhere! why border urself cause of their behaviour?
imo also the attitude of a well-educated (ingame lol) fleet stands out in comparison to those of the hordes of newbs.
...so i switched fleets rather than deleting my klink