Ba'al even you will fear the federation when they send thier giant purple dinosaur ambassador to your ship to teach about caring and sharing and love he will even sing you a song.
I can't take it anymore! Could everyone just chill out for two seconds before something CRAZY happens again?!
The nut who actually ground out many packs. The resident forum voice of reason (I HAZ FORUM REP! YAY!)
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Actually... the Federation sent what it could to help the Klingons after the Undine attack. Shon's willingness to sacrifice himself to save the Klingon homeworld reminded them that there is honor in the Federation.
That kind of thing doesn't go unnoticed. Captain Garrett showed that when the Enterprise-C fought to protect a Klingon colony, and now Captain Shon showed it fighting to protect Quo'nos.
LOL after the Undine attack. If they werent ignorant fools, both factions would welcome the Undine in far better shape.
Im still a loyal and proud Starfleet captian. But I strongly dissagre with the Fed council politics, and standing, behavior and "Im a Fed citizen egoism" among many Starfleet captians.
Ba'al even you will fear the federation when they send thier giant purple dinosaur ambassador to your ship to teach about caring and sharing and love he will even sing you a song.
LOL after the Undine attack. If they werent ignorant fools, both factions would welcome the Undine in far better shape.
Go reread the Path to 2409 again. I'll wait.
The Federation doesn't go to war unless it has no alternative, whereas the Klingons started shooting at the Gorn decades before the Undine were even known to be around, and took the Hobus supernova as a chance to snap up some Romulan territory. As for why the Federation didn't join in fighting the Gorn? Two words: Habeas corpus.* Nowhere is there any notion that the Klingons actually showed anybody else this proof that Ja'rod had supposedly gathered. Just like how they acted in "Diplomatic Orders" when they said, oh yeah, Sokketh's an Undine, just trust us on this. :rolleyes:
What the phekk did they think was going to happen, that the Federation would follow them to war on their say so, just like they did when Gowron invaded Cardassia? Oh wait, that didn't happen, because they had no evidence to support their claims, which were flatly false!
For God's sake, they've been dealing with the Federation for over two centuries! They should've figured out how their longtime allies and frequent enemies do business by now, and if they haven't they're even bigger frakking imbeciles than I thought. And their trying to take over the Hromi Cluster had absolutely jack-squat to do with the Undine and everything to do with J'mpok wanting to expand his borders, by his own admission!
No, the Federation isn't blameless in the colossal clusterfrak that was the past decade, but the Klingons were completely and utterly in the wrong. They started it, the Federation defended itself.
EDIT: And by the way? I think the handling of the armistice was complete garbage and that if Cryptic has any sense at all, this peace is only going to last as long as it takes the Undine to wipe themselves the frak out by beating their heads pointlessly against the Dyson spheres all day.
* Used here literally (Lat. "show me the body"), not in the sense of asking for a writ of habeas corpus.
"Great War! / And I cannot take more! / Great tour! / I keep on marching on / I play the great score / There will be no encore / Great War! / The War to End All Wars"
— Sabaton, "Great War"
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Ba'al even you will fear the federation when they send thier giant purple dinosaur ambassador to your ship to teach about caring and sharing and love he will even sing you a song.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XwLLH9EZiqc
see this intelligence file of his last assignment.
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LOL after the Undine attack. If they werent ignorant fools, both factions would welcome the Undine in far better shape.
Im still a loyal and proud Starfleet captian. But I strongly dissagre with the Fed council politics, and standing, behavior and "Im a Fed citizen egoism" among many Starfleet captians.
Know the difference
It could save your life...
Stay back! First Prime Teal'c is coming with the Superior Force to annihilate the immediate vicinity.
And we have the Tenth Doctor on standby just in case.
Hail Ba'al!
Go reread the Path to 2409 again. I'll wait.
The Federation doesn't go to war unless it has no alternative, whereas the Klingons started shooting at the Gorn decades before the Undine were even known to be around, and took the Hobus supernova as a chance to snap up some Romulan territory. As for why the Federation didn't join in fighting the Gorn? Two words: Habeas corpus.* Nowhere is there any notion that the Klingons actually showed anybody else this proof that Ja'rod had supposedly gathered. Just like how they acted in "Diplomatic Orders" when they said, oh yeah, Sokketh's an Undine, just trust us on this. :rolleyes:
What the phekk did they think was going to happen, that the Federation would follow them to war on their say so, just like they did when Gowron invaded Cardassia? Oh wait, that didn't happen, because they had no evidence to support their claims, which were flatly false!
For God's sake, they've been dealing with the Federation for over two centuries! They should've figured out how their longtime allies and frequent enemies do business by now, and if they haven't they're even bigger frakking imbeciles than I thought. And their trying to take over the Hromi Cluster had absolutely jack-squat to do with the Undine and everything to do with J'mpok wanting to expand his borders, by his own admission!
No, the Federation isn't blameless in the colossal clusterfrak that was the past decade, but the Klingons were completely and utterly in the wrong. They started it, the Federation defended itself.
EDIT: And by the way? I think the handling of the armistice was complete garbage and that if Cryptic has any sense at all, this peace is only going to last as long as it takes the Undine to wipe themselves the frak out by beating their heads pointlessly against the Dyson spheres all day.
* Used here literally (Lat. "show me the body"), not in the sense of asking for a writ of habeas corpus.
— Sabaton, "Great War"
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