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What Kind of tier 6 ships do you want for the KDF?
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What Kind of tier 6 ships do you want for the KDF?
I'd like a new Orion Ship, but still a Flight Deck Cruiser or Carrier, otherwise I'll just Upgrade my Fleet Corsair, if I feel like it.
A Next Generation Nausicaan Ship could be interesting.
A tier 6 Felkri Ship would be cool.
As for pure KDF a BoP with fellow BoP wingman could be cool.
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I'd like a new Orion Ship, but still a Flight Deck Cruiser or Carrier, otherwise I'll just Upgrade my Fleet Corsair, if I feel like it.
A Next Generation Nausicaan Ship could be interesting.
A tier 6 Felkri Ship would be cool.
As for pure KDF a BoP with fellow BoP wingman could be cool.
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More realistically, I'd like a decent non-Dyson science Warbird.
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Bird of Prey, Raptor, Battlecruiser, Flight-Deck Carrier, Carrier, Science Ship, and Destroyer. The KDF kinds
Carrier - Personally I would like the Warbarge with 3-4 Fighter/shuttle bays because what are the chances they will remember to upgrade pets with the level cap.
Raptor - With an actual role on the battle field and not just a gimped escort because it has cloak.
Science Ship - The KDF needs something more than the DSD, temporal, and Gorn vessels. I find it hard to believe that the KDF would not build dedicated Science ships prior to the joint project that created the DSD.
Seige Destroyer - I am a little worried that it may come as a fleet refit otherwise and be overlooked by the T5 upgrades are competitive but we know no one will play them when you could be in a Tier 6 ship.
Bird of Prey - KDF needs a bop because one thing has been true in the cryptic KDF history. If you have a competitive Bop learn to build it and fly it. You can make the fedies cry for a nerf.
Destroyer/Raptor Carrier - Klingon for the raptor, Fersaian for the destroyer. I do like the escort carrier design concept enough firepower to hurt things, enough armor to get out, and a bay of pets to harass the enemy or intercept threats.
Flight Deck Cruiser - I love my Orion Marauder, but I do wish it had been a little bit more resilient to the power creep. Given we do not know what "competitive upgrade" will mean in dev vs player comparisons. I am a bit worried about a ship I have min/maxed to keep competitive and fun to play, becoming a chore and lessening the fun of my entire team as the ship can not cut it at 60.
After listening to some of the interviews and Q/A sessions I am worried by the word play some of the devs used that could hint that not all ships will have the upgrade to T6 available to them. I believe it was during a Q/A session for the announcement panel. Someone asked "Will all T5 ships have and upgrade option?" The answer was sounded like "you wont upgrade T5 to T6 ships but the T5 ships you can upgrade will be competitive to T6."
1 T6 BoP
1 T6 Battlecruiser
1 T6 True Klingon Science Ship
1 T6 Carrier
Maaaybe a T6 Dread of sorts, although I wouldn't shed any tears if it doesn't happen.
Bundle them together in a discount faction pack for the expanison like the Romulan LoR one.
What I'd also like, but can't see happening (I challenge you to prove me wrong, Cryptic
T6 variants of at least 1 affiliated species ship per race, at least the current contributors to the ship roster - Nausicaan, Gorn and Orion one.
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and fighters that can be launched while cloaked... what a man can dream can't he?
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BOP, raptor, battlecruiser, tank cruiser, carrier, science
if upgrading existing, hopefully
HH, quin, mogh, bort?, karfi, and ? varanus or VQ carrier?
Pretty much agree with everyone else.
T6 BoP with EBC, T6 BoP with normal Battle Cloak
T6 Escort
T6 KDF Sci ship
T6 Vor'cha/Tor'kaht/Mogh style BattleCruiser
T6 Negh'var/Bortasq style Cruiser
T6 Carrier < With Battle Cloak, the Romulans can cloak a freaking Scimitar surely we can cloak this if we can cloak the Bortasq. Give To'Duj Fighters and BoP frigates battle cloak and they cloak at the end of their run when the Carrier cloaks.
T6 Orion/Gorn/Nausican ships following the style we're accustomed to.
The Orion should be a Flight Deck Cruiser, Gorn should be Sci ships and Nausican should be a Javelin equipped Escort.
As for a Klingon Sci ship, I actually think it should have always been the Raptor 4/2 Weapons layout (Klingon Design) they where shown as Scout ships, and I see them working with a Sci heavy electronic Warfare idea leaving the BoP to be more like an Escort. For the life of me I can't think of the name but it's the Large BoP, that should have been our Escort with the current BoP keeping it's Universal Configuration and having the large one be an Escort style Layout.
Finally as much as I hate to say this, change Cloaking so Cloak is now Battle Cloak, Battle Cloak keeps 10% of your shields up and Enhanced Battle Cloak keeps up 5% shields and works as written. The only flaw with this plan is we give the Feds the Battlecloak they've been whinging for since day 1, although it still shouldn't be built into any Federation vessel.
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I'd like to say you can be deadly in a Bird of Prey, heck most of the Feds I find myself grouped with have pathetically low DPS in all their fancy C-Store ships with all of our best consoles installed. They don't learn how to play the game they just cry for more power.
Back when this game came out KDF was an easy win in PVP and I was a BoP pilot, it took a well coordinated Fed Team to make it a fair fight. Unless of course you found yourself in a 2 vs 5 match where the Feds taunted you and brought 4 friends to a 1 on 1 duel. But the moment you got a few friends the tables where turned.
Me and a Friend in a Vor'Cha R (not a Fleet Tor'kaht but the T5 Vor'cha) and a Carrier out DPS'd 3 Feds in a KASE we pugged. They couldn't handle probes with the 3 of them. We had our gate down before they could take down one cube. And we're not exactly armed to the teeth.
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Getting back on topic, I want a tier 6 negh'var that includes a disruptor lance, more tactical boff options (meaning at least one lt commander tac boff), and a torp attack console that fires a huge barrage of photon torpedoes.
If they won't give me a ferasan designed ship I could get behind this.
I wonder what the Bortas layout will/would look like when you use whatever system they implement to bring T5 to be " competitive/on par " with T6 ships.
I could totally get behind a 5/4 weapon layout. >_>
It doesn't have to be a "new" design, maybe a slight visual mod of the Ning'tao.
Up-scaled stats of the B'rel would suffice.
4/3 weapon layout BUT 1 weapon hardpoint would enable omnidirectional fire.
Consoles will be 3/4/5.
An "Enhanced Insulating Battle Cloak" that would render the BoP immune from power drains and emissions based detection while activated and for a short duration after decloak.
The BOff stations would be all universal with 2 Commander, 1 Lt. Commander and 2 Lt.
The special console would be a "universal adapting" console, meaning any console type can be used within the UA console.
For example, you can place the UA console in an Eng slot but can place another Tac console in the UA console giving you 6 Tac consoles.
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1 hangar
no less than 36000 hull
+10% shields
<Daydream> either 11th console slot or extra forward weapon (make it 5/3 if you must) </Daydream>
And most importantly...
universal boff setup that allows more tac boff skills if you desire. The K'tinga is SERIOUSLY being abused like a red-headed stepchild by Cryptic on this one. EVERY other fleet ship that costs modules has universal boffs, and this one doesn't even get a c-store discount because there's no tier4/5 ship for it! This thing has less hull than most escorts! It's just coded WRONG on so many levels. Let's fix that.
P.S. As for the hangar, the K'tinga line always had a big shuttle bay way back in the early designs. It's housed on the upper deck bulge, which I think Cryptic calls the Payload Module or some-such on the Vor'Cha class. It had more than the 6 shuttles that make up a single hangar's fighter compliment in this game, so I figure 1 hangar slot would be worthy of Tier6/Lvl60, in addition to a meager hull/boff update.
EDIT: Point of note: The K'tinga is the ONLY ship in the KDF battlecruiser lineup at Lieutenant General rank withotu universal boffs. SO horribly wrong. SO wrong.
Feds will get a TRIBBLE load of T6 ships. Then the romulans will get a few and then the KDF won't get any because they will say they couldn't put anything else on the schedule. Then they will say just go buy the items off the c-store to upgrade them 1:1 ratio lol.
Just don't expect anything for the KDF because its the expectation that pretty much causes no trust between the players and the developers.
You sound like a Cryptic employee when you say that. That's scarily similar to what they've said in past disconnected circular arguments they've tried to make.
T6 Klingon Science vessel. Something that's a leap forward for the Klingons, courtesy of help form their new allies. Maybe make it a full carrier as well.
Something (heck, anything) with 2 command-level boff slots.
T6 Command Battle Cruiser - 5/2 weapon slots with Advanced Battle Cloak and/or broadside cannons. There, I said it... BROADSIDE CANNONS.
T6 Bird of Prey Squadron. 1 Command ship plus 3 BOPS as pets that you can outfit with gear and abilities.
A carrier would be nice.
Also a ferasan ship.
^ this.
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The idea of BoP wingmen sounds great on paper. But you know what the AI is like, could end up more frustrating than useful.
My guess is we'll only get 3 T6 ships to begin with. And very probably some sort of battlecruiser hopefully with a science slant to it, a raptor and a BoP. Those are perhaps the main KDF archetypes of ships.
Then as time goes on, if we're lucky, they'll include other ship types and hopefully something from a race other than KDF. Orion, Nausicaan, Ferasan and Gorn are all valid alternatives.
To give one example: Right now, the only Federation carrier with strong Tactical boff seating is an escort. The KDF doesn't have a Tactical carrier at all. I'd love to see two of these "7 to 10" new ships be true Tactical carriers, so that there are options other than the Scimitar and the Jem'Hadar Dreadnought.