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macronius
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So I see how Cryptic is going to get the elite players to do the whole crafting non sense. There are consoles on the exchange already which provide:
31.9 shield emitters
31.9 Particle generators
20% shield capacity
+10 weapon power
Wtf! That is like 3-4 consoles all rolled into one. So much for choosing builds and trade offs. If this keeps going eventually the elite ships will have science / engineering consoles that will boost all their stats and the power creep will be beyond imagination.
Is this really working as intended? I know these things are super rare now ... but what about in 6 months when you have hundreds making them. *facepallm* at latest Cryptic failure!
31.9 shield emitters
31.9 Particle generators
20% shield capacity
+10 weapon power
Wtf! That is like 3-4 consoles all rolled into one. So much for choosing builds and trade offs. If this keeps going eventually the elite ships will have science / engineering consoles that will boost all their stats and the power creep will be beyond imagination.
Is this really working as intended? I know these things are super rare now ... but what about in 6 months when you have hundreds making them. *facepallm* at latest Cryptic failure!
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Since they're doing that, can I get my 3 Oddy consoles rolled into one so I can free up 2 console slots?
The consoles are limited to 1 per ship. But I could see players mixing and matching different versions of them. Completely ridiculous. Of course this undermines fleet and rep consoles. I am starting to really be scared at what's coming with season 10 ... especially with Geko saying power creep won't matter.
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The stuff is ridiculously OP. Its not even kidding around like fleet engi consoles are ~120% of primary and ~50% secondary, it is ~120% on three things. There isnt any kind of trade-off for any of it, its just "here's three consoles in one slot enjoy"
Ask for crafting so people would have an alternative to fleets, and we get crafting gear that is not available to fleets. So you cant choose if you want to be indy player or group player, you have to do both of them to get full competitive end-game gear.
Meanwhile the noob lvl 50 is even further behind the fleet vet... gap was huge before now its a canyon
And that is only about half of it.
As well they should. If all this grind doesn't give any advantage what point is there in doing it. If there is no point in the grind then there is no point in this game. Not like they release new content regularly to keep things interesting, no the grind is all this game is and that grind has to count for something for the game to survive. If your some newbie or someone who wants to be casual and not spend much time in the game you should get your TRIBBLE handed to you by someone who has taken the time to do all this grind.
Worthless? That's a great console for players that use the Scimitar with the full set and Science ships.
Players that use scimitar with the full set, I can't even tell you how moronic that is. As to that console being worthless I didn't say it was, I said the individual consoles are worthless. The new ones with 3 worthless consoles wrapped into 1 are actually worth slotting in some cases, just not something i'd use.
I started a new toon, partly because one of my old ones had gotten boring and partly to check out low-level crafted gear. A Miranda with two Mk II antiproton beams, a Mk II photon-torpedo launcher with some bonuses, and a Mk II covariant shield with a couple of bonuses kicks serious NPC!
I think I like this new system...
Yup, I'd love to get my hands on two Collimator ones (and RCS and a sci one)
It's a unique console...can only slot one.
When you get into what is required to craft it - actually getting the one you want from the Research&Gamble System - while taking a look at some of the things you can get, it might look awesome...
Embassy Sci Consoles...been around forever...providing +Sci Skill, +/- Threat, and then [ShH] - [HuH] - [Pla]...well, maybe not so much. Check out the Dyson Eng and Sci Consoles, eh? Check out the Advanced Tac Consoles, right?
Well, you can slot multiples of those...that's going to add up. You can only slot a single one of these. And with their being 11 mods (should be 12, still don't know why there's no Regen); you're looking at a 1 in 11 chance of getting the one you want...9.1% chance.
Sure, you might get something somebody else wants...or...you'll get the equivalent of vendor trash.
Worthless to you maybe, but it's great for someone who is a Sci a plays PVP. Both the Sci console and the RCS are useful.
But you can slot complementary consoles. Example would be rcs with a bunch of add dons and neutronium console with turn and other add ons. Same goes for science consoles. Even if we agree that PvP is dead this will further trivialize PvE content and make balancing future content extremely difficult. No MMO has ever embraced power creep to this extreme.
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Now I don't really care - I mean for PvE what does it matter? Cryptic wants to focus on Solo Queues and players that come in and dump some cash and then leave. They are not really interested in long-term retention. Frankly without a new T.V. series after the next movie in 2016 for the 50th Anniversary of ST:TOS , this game will be in maintenance mode within 1 year(or 2017) That would be an 8 year run for a niche market MMO, all and all not bad I would say.
Whats interesting in this context, its always the oldies who are buying all the new shinies. Two in my fleet that I know of already dropped the coin for the new carrier. How many 30-day newbies did that?
I have seen things, like the boss man goes to a seminar where somebody has worked out the logical argument that keeping customers for too long is harmful to a company's operating margins, and the boss buys the logic instead of considering the stupidity of the conclusion in isolation. Not saying that happens at Cryptic, I dont know anything about anything that happens there. Just saying, smart people do stupid sh$t all the time.
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Can only go with what Geko said until it doesn't happen...and as long as he's not talking about KDF ships, whatever he talks about - whether anybody wants it or not, it ends up in the game. He's not Stahl telling us all the awesome stuff that will never be...he's Geko...so I figure we are going to see the more difficult Elite content as he talked about it while talking about dealing with power creep in that last podcast.
It would be interesting to have a reason to use high end gear than stepping on ants. We shall see :cool:
"How I learned to stop worrying and love the power creep!"
One thing I like about Geko is he rarely Bull$%^&s - he says what he's going to do with the game and your going to get it that way whether you like it or not. Stahl kept saying "its coming" and it never did. So if Geko says a 5/2 Raptor is coming - I believe him. He says he wants to add solo Queues - I think we will see those as well.
To be brutally honest in some ways if you look at the bortasqu' and how crappy its set is and taking up 3 consoles it wouldn't be too far fetched imo for them to roll the ody and bortasqu' sets into one or atleast make one of them a console, weapon, and device set instead of 3 consoles.
I've always disagreed with the designs of both ships though because they kind of let a very small group dictate how they were both setup and they even said early on the klingon version was not designed to use any freaking cannons but they make one of the consoles a cannon rofl. Then the ody is mainly designed to be a tank where this game pretty much has no use for a tank. Even an escort in this game its not like the old days so you can pretty much tank in any class even a bop lol.
As far as crafted gear for the most point what it does is just stuff annoyances to annoy an enemy but a good player won't be underpowered if yer worrying about the stuff from a pvp perspective. Although regardless if the crafted gear is OP or not the sets need to be rolled into one or something that isn't consuming 3 console spaces for crappy set effects that were setup before f2p changes even came to the game. So they need to either redo all of what these consoles do or roll them up into one as suggested lol
I have just as much fun with the character creator/tailor and community as I do with the pew-pew, if not more, so there is more to this game then grind. Other players may completely disregard these aspects, but ignoring something doesnt mean it doesn't exist
...unless you're the Devs, whom I'm sure many PvP players feel do ignore that aspect, rendering it nearly non-existant. BOOM! *throws a Jon Stewart air-punch in celebration of a mediocre joke*
I got 1 of them fancy utltra-rare Sci consoles today (don't ask me what I paid for it). They're supercute.
Settle down, elitest.
It isnt anymore moronic then min-maxing in a social themepark game and studying for hours on end, grinding for months or spending money on the persuit to eek out that last percentile of critical hit chance so you can get moar deepz. no more moronic then treating STO like some binary system that you may as well not even look at your monitor to play because you can just faw and forget, and then post your ACT log in team chat (but only if you had the most deepz, oc.) berating everyone for not being as good as you.
Sure, I could get more damage not using the silly consoles, but I want to use them because they are fun. Maybe I want to use them because min maxing sucks the fun out of the game for me, and I would rather play within a theme, or within the canon, or maybe I just wasnt to deliberately handicap myself a bit so I dont just faceroll content.
I use the 3 piece Scimitar consoles. I use tetryons on my Recluse. I use Polarons and the mk12 JH set on my Bug. I use the whole temporal set on all 3 temporal ships, I even use antiprotons on them. I rolled a sci just to open my galor on so I could use the photonic displacement console and photonic fleet because Martok said thats what pissed him off the most about Cardassians. You know what, champ? That silly t'varo mega torpedo? you know I use that. I dont feel one bit moronic having fun.
And yea brah, I can get into dps30k. Check the roster. Min'd there, Max'd that. Fell asleep.
To tell a whole community that its moronic to use a console set designed specifically for the ship they bought is pretty crass, and I submit that the idea that people acually use the 3 console set isnt the most moronic thing in this thread.
We already steam-rolled STF for years and 2 years from now we still going to be grinding the same 2-3 STF maps for dil, so what's the point !!!11! /fatalism
I will just say though nothing without an animation is worth 339 days of timegated projects however. I don't care how OP it makes you
Just for a bit of clarity the bottom two are only applied when you are healed in a specific way (this one is probably shield healed)
it then applies the 20% and the bonus weapon power for 15 seconds, and then it cant be applied for a short time after.
so its not always there and you could go an entire mission and only have it apply a couple of times. the shield capacity might be totally irrelevant a lot of the times if you still have your shields in decent condition (especially directly after a heal) unless you are getting smashed by the enemy and the 10 weapon power wont be amazingly significant.
so yes its powerful as it should be for an ultra rare that has taken a lot of time to craft but i dont think its quite as amazing as you think.
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Then it would get nerfed...
Given the choice between that console and an additional 1.8 crit chance + 32% weapon base damage boost, i'd say most people would opt out of the sci-console.
What i really, really don't understand is the engineering RCS console from crafting. Why does it get sci skills? Why not engineering skills? I'd kill for a 30 skill point boost to pretty much any single engineering skill there is.