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why is the mood here so negative?
deaftravis05
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On the forums, it's apathy, depression, negativity... it's like we've given up on discussions here... why is that?
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A fair number of old-time players who were a bit thrown by 9.5 and are on the verge of giving up hope that the game will ever be more than a shallow game that's fun to dip into now and then. The next expansion is going to be a watershed for them.
Mostly they don't get everything they want, or they are pissed off at a Director of certain movies... or something else.
I shall attempt to counter such negativity with this piece of music!
I can start a versus thread if you'd like.
If I was a new player - this game would be amazing. A ton of content; 3 races to play; and a lot to try to learn.
Given that I've done everything on 7 alts, even managing NWS with my fleet no less without the aid of the 30billiondps channel, all we have to look forward to is new content.
Although I am enjoying the year long grind for crafting.
Expansion 2 (x2) is where my hopes are.
The dev's really haven't been good to us. Some things they'e said we'd see and/or get ended up not happening for reasons not always laid out to us. Other times they have flat out lied to us. Then there's the bugs that they know about (meaning the ones in STFs, Defera, costumes, etc). Yes, it's there. But no, they don't care about what quality of product they are releasing. As long as it's labeled "content" they can say they're been releasing things consistently. How well it actually plays doesn't factor in.
There's also the obvious cash grab F2P/P2W dynamic most of us despise. Or the exploitation of a game with a Star Trek label that no longer has ANYTHING to do with Star Trek.
So yeah, cynicism is common and generally shared.
This, pretty much. Although, for me, things started going downhill already in Season 9.
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"Why is the mood here so negative?"
Well to be honest there are plenty of reasons, but lets break them down to the most "basic" or possibly the most "understandable"
1: Here at STO aka Star Trek Online, thousands of players come on here with the hope of getting a "full immersion" experience of a ST MMO that both has the context and feel of the Star Trek Universe itself.
Fortunately, that's just the dream Utopia of the "player base expectations" that most or a portion of gaming community on here would like to have. Which to be honest is well as best said it, "Lipstick on a Pig". What I am trying to say there are folks on here that STO should feel more like Star Trek itself, and less like another "Average Joe" MMO that has lately become the common formula on many MMO's anymore. Hell that has even become the formula for the MMO industry itself anymore. BRILLIANT!
2: Perfectworld is only a label, and not a licensed fact of how the reputation of their MMO's run.
Now one thing that has become the common "stereotype" of Perfectworld and not just about the company name. Which for all intensive purposes even changing it at this point wouldn't help it as well is the fact that Perfectworld should be more defined as "Im-Perfectworld". See it is like this; you come onto a Free-To-Play MMO and after downloading, and even starting to play you are hounding with countless bugs, glitches, and the overwhelming sense well.........this game is not what it's all cracked up to be. So you go onto the forums or even write a ticket there is next to no response or on the forums if you complain there is trolling, flaming or even just disgruntlement in regards to STO. And.................this is also what brings about the mood being so "Negative"!
3: Perfectworld or STO is not taking time to hear out the community at all. Or they just don't care to.
Again this is also what seems to be a common conception both about Perfectworld and also about STO as well. Again when a ticket is written to Perfectworld do they respond? No! Do they have a phone service to call them? No! Do they want your money and will try every addictive way for you to give them money and sucker you into it? Oh definitely yes! It is because of this very reason if the player base community cannot and I mean "CANNOT" get a response or even any form of communication from Perfectworld? Well then prepare to go to forums and flaunt that frustration of freedom. Well more like flaunt that frustration of rage at the forums. Which thus again is why the mood is mostly negative.
4: Grind, Craft, Slot, Repeat!
This is also another concern found here on Perfectworld and their many disgruntled games as well. From the moment you create and also start playing until you hit level 50 the "Episodes" are a wonderful adventure to experience on STO. However, much after reaching level 50 then and only then come the epic "STF's" or "Special Taskforce Missions". Now it might not seem much. But the issue that players have here is the fact of constantly doing the same "STF's" over and over. And to add insult to injury create it as a means to earn special marks, or even items that are applied to assist in crafting "Reputation Based Equipment" that help assist your captain or ship. Now doing the STF's is not a major bum, but when you start to factor doing the same mission over and over, just to craft a reputation item and then slot it on a ship and repeat. Well all this cooking and crafting begins to feel like a rat race grind or another day at work on an MMO.
Overall this concern is one open both to interpretation as well as debate when it comes to varying opinions on the matter.
5: PVP feels more and more like Gladiator.
Now this should be an interesting one to really start rubbing salt in old wounds.
So here you have it players crafting and building their ships and what for? Why for the bragging rights and the ego's to be satisfied when it comes to MMO's and well those like STO.
The problem of course with this issue is the fact that PVP is more of well an "Arena" based gameplay where you go to a Warzone where Romulan, Federation, and Klingon ships all go to see who can outshoot who. The problem is also well there is a large majority with in the PVP base that like to see Fleet PVP become more broader and not just reserved to Warzone or even Invitational PVP matches. In this case it feels more like a gentleman's fight of put up your dukes and see who is the best one standing.
Now of course there is also a group in the PVP community that really want to see fleets going at other fleets or even fight for sectors or even locales with in the STO galaxy just reserved for PVP that would be part of an ever evolving immersion environment for STO itself. Course again this one is open to debate.
So there you have it. The reason why the mood is so negative. Take your pick but hey if you were me? Just accept it all as one giant fact that makes Perfectworld, PERFECTWORLD!
Now if you excuse me? Ghobepong wants to ghobe on out of here. :P
agreed the next expansion will be very important. However, based on the last dev interview I heard, they seem to think everything is going great and the stuff they push onto holodeck is top noch.
As much as hope it will, I don't think the next expansion will change the current course of STO.
It makes us feel good to rant, and its easy to do it here because many people will join in with you
Where you able to rank up to level 60 or 70?
Did you use them to obtain a new rank above admiral?
Did you save the Federation from the Klingons?
Did you save the Federation from the Voth?
Did you save the Federation from the Tholians?
Did you save the Federation from the Borg?
Did you escalate the war with the Klingons?
Did you escalate the war with the Voth?
Did you escalate the war with the Tholians?
Did you escalate the war with the Borg?
Did you use diplomatic means to encourage peace?
Did you cause a war with one of the game species/factions?
Did you engage in meaningful dialogue, which will help influence the endgame solution?
Did you engage in NPC companion relationships?
Did your NPC engage in random dialogue about your command tactics?
Did you discover new lifeforms on a distance planet?
Did you study anything specific about new lifeforms, which will allow you to save their species?
Did you learn a new language and use it to negotiate for resources?
Did you become the hero of the Milkyway Galaxy?
Did you come up with a scientific or engineering solution for a planetary problem?
Did you solve a geological crises?
Did you open up negotiations between two factions?
Did you discover anything that will give you a new philosophy about life?
Did you learn anything about your particular species?
Where you able to command the Enterprise, Defiant, or Voyager?
Did you build a Data like companion, so you can use him to solve an issue?
Did you learn about another culture's rituals?
Do you know what you actually did? Instead of earning valuable rewards from overcoming difficult odds, your function is to grind tiny amounts of resources to unlock stores - to purchase your rewards.
C-store items, reputation items, fleet items, lobi store items, and high-end R&D items are different types of reward shovels, which players will purchase and use for filling up buckets - and, to obtain more reward shovels.
...and, that is the hollow nature of "Star Trek: Online's" endgame.
...and, that is why people are getting upset.
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FYI - Regardless about what faction you use (or, Cryptic comes up with), the endgame content and goals are all the same. Once you complete the rep system for one character type, you will know how it is for all faction/character types. Grind yourself into oblivion.
People are spending hundreds of dollars on the purchasing of items, which are solely used for the grinding of more resources and items.
...and, to make maters worse - you have to wait through malicious timegates.
Dumb.
*watches as a Dino with lasers walks by*
Someone 'nuked the fridge' and 'jumped the shark' all at once.
I think you just won the thread.
The planet of the mobsters called. They say everybody was seriously overreacting about the dinosaurs.
Blame a lot of that on one of Roddenberry's weirder ideas, that being convergent cultural evolution.
I have great respect for the setting Roddenberry came up with, but the man himself was an ego case with good ideas, stupid ideas, and some difficulty telling which was which.
— Sabaton, "Great War"
Check out https://unitedfederationofpla.net/s/
I'm affected by it just as much as anyone else.
My evidence?
Cognitive dissonance. Players of STO become psychologically discomforted when exposed to facts and 'reality' that makes them question their currently-held beliefs, and attempting to somehow justify the existance of both beliefs, even if they're completely contradictory to one another.
Whether it be wanting free things from Cryptic without needing to pay for it or spend time eanring it.
Or dinos with laz0rs when there's plenty of absurdity and farce in Star Trek as it is.
Or in my case... people who apparently love the message of Star Trek which praises intellectualism and logic, but act completely contrary to it.
And Apollo and Space TRIBBLE are on the other line.
F*ck the grind. I'd rather have a job that actually pays cashy money.
— Sabaton, "Great War"
Check out https://unitedfederationofpla.net/s/
Because...Iconians?
My character Tsin'xing
Nobody 'talked and pantomimed' a planet of the mobsters. It was there. Kirk went down to it and put on a fedora and faced dudes with tommy guns. If that's not Trek then Trek isn't Trek.
In conclusion: iconians.
I am holding out hope for Season Ten. If all we are going to get are more grinds, I think the best thing for me to do is to drift quietly away.
I think it might be time to do something entirely new.
*watches blogs closely*
THIS. IS. A. GAME.
If you want to "make a difference", this planet is almost literally crawling with organizations that need your help, whether that help be financial, backbreaking labor, or the invention of a new device to make life a little easier in the Third World. The kid that invented a cheap, easy-to-use filter that turned filthy, polluted water into potable water in eastern Africa? He accomplished something.
Me? I sat on my rapidly-expanding butt and played a computer game. Well, among other things, some of which actually were important, but the point is that I never expected this to be anything but a diversion, a fun way to while away an hour or so at a time. If you were expecting anything to did to make anything different, well, all I can say is that maybe you should temper your expectations.