On priority one the dev they had on did explain the future plans to help fix some of the listed problems and they do seem to have a good idea on what they are and how to solve them. Well that particular dev does at least.
As for feedback on the forums of extremely high quality be sure to check out the posts by 'frtoaster' as he/she gives concise rant free feedback. Their are many others, too many for me to remember offhand, but be sure to spot the ones from him/her.
Honestly the entire thing wasn't terrible. The question is what is the role or purpose you desire for the podcast to have? Do you want to be a source of news, hype, and information about STO? Nothing wrong with that by the way. Or do you want to be the more hard hitting reporter type where you dig into the details and ask the devs the hard questions with a mountain of research at your back for support?
The last podcast it seemed like you wanted to try being the hard hitting reporter style of host but you had the attitude? posture? tone? of a news/hype style host. That contrast created, in my eyes, the problem.
Either way, thank you for your effort and hard work.
All diplomacy aside, i want to move the show to a move to a more hard hitting direction. The problem becomes when i shed too much negativity ppl complain im too critical and ask why i even bother playing and reporting on sto.
And when i soften it up to create balance i get the label i'm Paid Cryptic Fan Boi PR, which aggravates me to no end. But i can see how it comes off on screen as soft and i will endeavor to more accurately relay, investigate and fairly report on the issues that plague the game.
All diplomacy aside, i want to move the show to a move to a more hard hitting direction. The problem becomes when i shed too much negativity ppl complain im too critical and ask why i even bother playing and reporting on sto.
And when i soften it up to create balance i get the label i'm Paid Cryptic Fan Boi PR, which aggravates me to no end. But i can see how it comes off on screen as soft and i will endeavor to more accurately relay, investigate and fairly report on the issues that plague the game.
I can be really honest , and hopefully not offend here.
For me , I love when you give all the facts, and express critical opinions.
That's valuable.
What happens for me is that many people in chat rooms don't have the kind of filter and ability to say things as diplomatically as you do, and it;s when you start reflecting the opinions of those folks, that it gets really negative.
You obviously LOVE the game, Mav. When you have in the past delivered hard hitting critical feedback, you often do it with an air of professionalism that gets lost when bringing in unfilitered opinions.
Thats been my experience as a listener.
Again, I hope that's not offending. It's not meant to be.
Mav you cant please everyone and its futile (see what i did there) trying. Best your guna get is if you do one week softly softly show and one week hard hitting. it wont satisfy everyone but to those who say your to soft you can say check out next/last week and those who say your too critical you can say the same thing.
It at least streamlines responses and time to respond lol
ohh and..... TARGIZARD!!!!
sorry i got you with that last time and I was just hoping it worked again Tee Hee.
All diplomacy aside, i want to move the show to a move to a more hard hitting direction. The problem becomes when i shed too much negativity ppl complain im too critical and ask why i even bother playing and reporting on sto.
And when i soften it up to create balance i get the label i'm Paid Cryptic Fan Boi PR, which aggravates me to no end. But i can see how it comes off on screen as soft and i will endeavor to more accurately relay, investigate and fairly report on the issues that plague the game.
I know that the forums are sometime referred to as the "sewers" by some:P - but you really should stop by more Mav - there are some long-time players here who do have good opinions and comments.
It is a hard line to walk between being critical and being a fanboy, it is certainly not an easy task. Perhaps the best thing to do in a lot of situations is just stick to the facts instead of an opinion show.
Keep at it though - 100 episodes is just around the corner:)
The show has been under Tom's control for over a year. He needs to polish up the look and mostly the audio of the show before he does anything else. Nikki sounds like she's talking with marbles in her mouth. Whenever she say's something i have to turn the volume way up. Fix the show and make it worth listening too. Right now its just to painful to watch.
I can be really honest , and hopefully not offend here.
For me , I love when you give all the facts, and express critical opinions.
That's valuable.
What happens for me is that many people in chat rooms don't have the kind of filter and ability to say things as diplomatically as you do, and it;s when you start reflecting the opinions of those folks, that it gets really negative.
You obviously LOVE the game, Mav. When you have in the past delivered hard hitting critical feedback, you often do it with an air of professionalism that gets lost when bringing in unfilitered opinions.
Thats been my experience as a listener.
Again, I hope that's not offending. It's not meant to be.
No offense taken, that was an honest assessment of the show and my performance. Thanks
The show has been under Tom's control for over a year. He needs to polish up the look and mostly the audio of the show before he does anything else. Nikki sounds like she's talking with marbles in her mouth. Whenever she say's something i have to turn the volume way up. Fix the show and make it worth listening too. Right now its just to painful to watch.
Im willing to take suggestions as what to fix.
As far as Nikkis voice there is not much i can do, her voical range is in the lower octaves like a baritone or tenor. I have a pro audio mixing board and if i remove the bass you wont hear her at all.
Other than that what other audio needs fixing in your opinion?
As far as the visuals, new visuals are under development for post STLV episodes starting with ep 100.
All diplomacy aside, i want to move the show to a move to a more hard hitting direction. The problem becomes when i shed too much negativity ppl complain im too critical and ask why i even bother playing and reporting on sto.
And when i soften it up to create balance i get the label i'm Paid Cryptic Fan Boi PR, which aggravates me to no end. But i can see how it comes off on screen as soft and i will endeavor to more accurately relay, investigate and fairly report on the issues that plague the game.
Here's how I heard it Mav, and I'm not trying to bust your chops or anything, just my view as an outside listener.
When you ask a question about what's your response to negative feedback on stuff, someone needs to have some specific examples on hand. When the dev asks for them, and all you can say is 'Uh, well, I'm not sure, but there was some complaining'...that's a problem. It comes across as either you're unwilling to ask something tough/expose the dev to something he doesn't want to hear, or you just failed to do your homework in finding that feedback. I don't pretend to know which, if either is true, it just comes across that way.
Nobody is saying you have to go hardcore and bust a dev's balls, just that if valid negative feedback is given, make sure the dev knows about some specific examples.
Also one thing that stood out is me is sometimes Al doesn't understand the intent of a question, or deflects, I'm not sure which. Specific example is when Nikki asked about the time cost/investment in crafting, and Al goes off on a tangent about dilithium costs. That wasn't what was asked, and nobody interjected. Just seems odd, I dunno.
I hope this comes across as the intent behind it, just my observations and not trying to jump you.
All diplomacy aside, i want to move the show to a move to a more hard hitting direction. The problem becomes when i shed too much negativity ppl complain im too critical and ask why i even bother playing and reporting on sto.
And when i soften it up to create balance i get the label i'm Paid Cryptic Fan Boi PR, which aggravates me to no end. But i can see how it comes off on screen as soft and i will endeavor to more accurately relay, investigate and fairly report on the issues that plague the game.
Trying to think of how to put it. I didn't get the impression that you were a Fan Boi as much as it seemed you were walking on eggshells and lacked the information necessary to be critical.
You don't have to be negative per-say, that won't be very enjoyable either. But you did not seem very critical. And in order to be critical you will need to have the relevant information which would require a good amount of time spent to get it.
Note this is a nit pick example merely used to illustrate my point and not a criticism. For example you mentioned people should not continue to ask questions that have already been answered. Yet you asked about the romulan boff that is not dismissible even though that has already been answered in the forums. I understand, you don't read the forum dev tracker all the time and that is perfectly fine but it made you appear a bit silly in comparison.
It is that disconnect creating the problem. You cannot ask hard hitting critical questions in an interview while appearing to be walking on eggshells without it being off a bit. Their is nothing wrong with having a show that is not critical either. If that is the kind of show you enjoy making then make that kind of show.
Stop worrying about the bashing you will *inevitably* get when you interview a dev. It doesn't matter how nice you are. It won't matter how "hard-hitting" you are. There WILL be a group of people in this forum who will send you hate mail, and threats of violence. There WILL ALSO be another group of people on this forum who will pat your back and say well done.
The fact is, you won't be able to please everyone. And that's OK. Keep doin' what you're doing and do it because you love it, not for anyone else.
Stop worrying about the bashing you will *inevitably* get when you interview a dev. It doesn't matter how nice you are. It won't matter how "hard-hitting" you are. There WILL be a group of people in this forum who will send you hate mail, and threats of violence. There WILL ALSO be another group of people on this forum who will pat your back and say well done.
The fact is, you won't be able to please everyone. And that's OK. Keep doin' what you're doing and do it because you love it, not for anyone else.
Terilynn
Quite so.
Make the podcast you'd like to hear.
Please don't try to predict what I, for example, might want.
If I feel strongly enough about it, I should make my own.
Of course, I'd never get a dev to speak to me more than once, but thats just me.
still there is alot i can still learn from everyone here and im willing to accept the challenge to produce that kind of show that i know i can. This was clearly not my best work and i know i could have done better. I do plan on taking all i have read here and make changes as needed to accommodate as many people as i can.
bottom line that i cant dispute, whether the listeners and viewers like or dislike the show, one thing is paramount, you all still took the time to attempt to watch and gave good critical criticism that i can take back with me and work on.
thanks everyone for still watching and giving your input
As long as your being honest and respectful to YOUR truth and Ideals and not knowingly compromising them against you beliefs, you're golden. It's easy to get lost in the expectations of others.
Integrity <
Aim for this
What do YOU think/believe about a situation? Really think about it.. and ask honest questions from there.
still there is alot i can still learn from everyone here and im willing to accept the challenge to produce that kind of show that i know i can. This was clearly not my best work and i know i could have done better. I do plan on taking all i have read here and make changes as needed to accommodate as many people as i can.
bottom line that i cant dispute, whether the listeners and viewers like or dislike the show, one thing is paramount, you all still took the time to attempt to watch and gave good critical criticism that i can take back with me and work on.
thanks everyone for still watching and giving your input
I have a question about the comments by Geko about the STO community if what is being posted is an exaggeration and being blown out of proportions or if the posts are correct in his exact wording?
still there is alot i can still learn from everyone here and im willing to accept the challenge to produce that kind of show that i know i can. This was clearly not my best work and i know i could have done better. I do plan on taking all i have read here and make changes as needed to accommodate as many people as i can.
bottom line that i cant dispute, whether the listeners and viewers like or dislike the show, one thing is paramount, you all still took the time to attempt to watch and gave good critical criticism that i can take back with me and work on.
thanks everyone for still watching and giving your input
I have just read a bit of your last conversation on your FB wall. A player says he got banned here by a VMod for having the guts to speak out. Well, A VMod can't ban someone, he reports them to the PWE Community Managers and they re-read his posts and decide to ban or to warn.
You get banned here for trolling and insulting players, Devs, and PWE/Cryptic. So there surely was a reason behind him getting banned, not just for telling his negative impressions..
As long as your being honest and respectful to YOUR truth and Ideals and not knowingly compromising them against you beliefs, you're golden. It's easy to get lost in the expectations of others.
Integrity <
Aim for this
What do YOU think/believe about a situation? Really think about it.. and ask honest questions from there.
Spot on, kimony. Integrity is definitely a key factor.
Stop worrying about the bashing you will *inevitably* get when you interview a dev. It doesn't matter how nice you are. It won't matter how "hard-hitting" you are. There WILL be a group of people in this forum who will send you hate mail, and threats of violence. There WILL ALSO be another group of people on this forum who will pat your back and say well done.
The fact is, you won't be able to please everyone. And that's OK. Keep doin' what you're doing and do it because you love it, not for anyone else.
I think once the heat dies down, the community is disappointed that those interviewing Geko don't take him to task. I think the worst part is the way he dismisses all the carefully thought out and respectful critique / feedback provided on Tribble and just accuses everyone of rambling.
You can't let someone get away with such falsehoods. I am not saying you should be rude but confronting the interview is part of the job. Otherwise you risk becoming their mouthpiece.
still there is alot i can still learn from everyone here and im willing to accept the challenge to produce that kind of show that i know i can. This was clearly not my best work and i know i could have done better. I do plan on taking all i have read here and make changes as needed to accommodate as many people as i can.
bottom line that i cant dispute, whether the listeners and viewers like or dislike the show, one thing is paramount, you all still took the time to attempt to watch and gave good critical criticism that i can take back with me and work on.
thanks everyone for still watching and giving your input
"With the first link, the chain is forged. The first speech censored, the first thought forbidden, the first freedom denied, chains us all irrevocably."
Stop worrying about the bashing you will *inevitably* get when you interview a dev. It doesn't matter how nice you are. It won't matter how "hard-hitting" you are. There WILL be a group of people in this forum who will send you hate mail, and threats of violence. There WILL ALSO be another group of people on this forum who will pat your back and say well done.
The fact is, you won't be able to please everyone. And that's OK. Keep doin' what you're doing and do it because you love it, not for anyone else.
Terilynn
This is very much true. I've done online radio for countless years, podcasts for years, and was even a DJ for an STO radio station for 3. :P I know how hard it is to try to "appease" everyone. You won't ever be able too. Do what YOU want to do if people don't like it then that's fine. If they do, then that's awesome.
Now yes, you should always listen to feedback. That's a critical thing to do, but also don't listen to every piece and take it all in to change YOUR show. Are there going to be woopsies? Damn skippy. No podcast/radio show/forum post is perfect. You will have boo boo's, people will then latch on to those and ride you for the rest of your time on it lol.
But rinkster said it best - If people don't like what you do they should make their own. It's not easy by a long shot.
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This is very much true. I've done online radio for countless years, podcasts for years, and was even a DJ for an STO radio station for 3. :P I know how hard it is to try to "appease" everyone. You won't ever be able too. Do what YOU want to do if people don't like it then that's fine. If they do, then that's awesome.
Now yes, you should always listen to feedback. That's a critical thing to do, but also don't listen to every piece and take it all in to change YOUR show. Are there going to be woopsies? Damn skippy. No podcast/radio show/forum post is perfect. You will have boo boo's, people will then latch on to those and ride you for the rest of your time on it lol.
But rinkster said it best - If people don't like what you do they should make their own. It's not easy by a long shot.
If you are referencing shows then yeah keep to your format. Podcasts and Radio don't make a bit of difference as they are not taken seriously. You do that for enjoyment and that's great and you do that for loyal listeners. Don't pretend podcasts matter outside of marketing.
you are also facing a problematic audience. Some of us try not to be totally negative. If I see something that irks me I at least try to suggest a solution if i see one. yes everyone nerd rages.
but even the ardent supporters are getting tired, and depressed about the game.
let me give you an example. from october, 2012
I was F2P until they gave me a reason to do the lifetime subscription. I didn't get all the extra slots my BF has on his pay account, and I get those. and all the veteran rewards!
and i get a borg character if I want!
but back to my lovely Chimaera... what a ship! i have not even played with the console, but a CDR tac, lt engy and sci, a Uni LCDR and ens... what's not to love? Do I make it a OMG what a choice for tactical abilities? do i may her survivable as heck with a engineer LCDR and LT?
Shield tank with a LCDR Sci and LT? how about a Escort with gravity well and Feedback pulse???
so wave hi to the giddy girl in the snow white destroyer!
yesterday:
well, considering I do not feel I am good enough for any elite level gameplay, and I have zero intention of paying for crafting materials that i may or may not get in the purchase, I'm officially done with the new crafting system.
and
it will get to the point that I cannot get the gear to be competitive. I.E. can't get it via a vendor with in game currency, or at a reasonable price on the exchange.
PWE is slowly going to drive a very larger percentage (read as the casual players) away
I know this person very well, and to see her enthusiasm for a game two years ago to the depressed messages of yesterday is a sad thing. and unfortunately I think it's widespread. people are getting frustrated by things being changed that don't need to be, and broken things never getting fixed. Although people were upset with the dilithium costs in the old crafting system, the real issue was there was nothing worth crafting.
if they had added Mk XII gear people would have been far happier., but I digress.
if you want to hit the devs with the hard question, ask them what they will do about the malaise people feel about PWE/Cryptic just wanting our dollars, and not doing anything to make us want to PLAY
Stop worrying about the bashing you will *inevitably* get when you interview a dev. It doesn't matter how nice you are. It won't matter how "hard-hitting" you are. There WILL be a group of people in this forum who will send you hate mail, and threats of violence. There WILL ALSO be another group of people on this forum who will pat your back and say well done.
The fact is, you won't be able to please everyone. And that's OK. Keep doin' what you're doing and do it because you love it, not for anyone else.
Terilynn
Indeed, can't please everyone. Even if God visited the internet, he would still get hate mail.
Personally, I don't blame Mav at all for the interview. I think people are just projecting their anger of Geko on him. Geko was in the wrong, not you.
ok, so I had typed out my thoughts on your show, and because I have been previously involved with it (well before chris left) I was gonna drop too much stuff that shouldn't be aired on these forums, so I am going to facebook them to you mav (in private don't worry lol)...
this show mav, was an all time low in my books, I listen to all of them, sometimes hop in the live stream.. but I know you had teeth out and what not, but it was a low... and I know youll pick it back up, you are crazy dedicated and I know you love trek, and I know you want the game to be better, and your doing your part (sometimes lol)..
that being said, check out my pm on facebook..
moving on..
we will in all likely hood not see teir 6 ships.. it was said in interviews that there would be no t6 ships.. mainly because they felt that 8 hardspots total on a ship was good enough. (had to do with a lot of factors) and that devalueing ships people have bought would not be a good idea.. not to mention, its not as easy as everyone thinks to just add slots and stats to a ship via crafting or what not.. it would take way way too much resources.. (as has been said in interviews..)
they always said yes to level cap increase (and if memory serves this will be the last one as they said they do not like level cap increasing). and no to t6 ships..
that being said..
Al "gecko" R. has always had this discontempt for the star trek fans/sto players.. in almost every interview he does, he tries to reverse our "problems" and "dislikes" right back on us.. he says that the fans are silly for wanting ships we like (like wolf 359 ships and other canon ships). he has always steered the game in his own personal direction. which you cant do as a gamer.. you have to understand there is different likes and dislikes out there, and you have to find common ground..
as far as people not likeing the new ui because of it being "different" well, maybe you should read into that.. maybe we liked the flow of the old ui better.. there has been changes that have been made that everyone loved, and there has been and will be changes people don't like.. this isn't about a dev thinking something is better, its about the community as a whole thinking it..
as far as the whining, and crying, and toxic nature of the forums.. well, I have played, and still do play a lot of games.. I am active on a lot of forums.. sto's is by far the worst by a whole heaping lot..
so should the devs be saying, they are whiners, and bit*hes, or should they say, how did it get to this point.. if you look, there is a breadcrumb trail starting from day one.. over the years, the negativity gets worse.. I used to be very friendly and accepting on the forums.. now im less so, and I find myself not making positive comments as much.. and when I look back, I see how as I had negative comments, they were not addressed, and so they build, and pile up, and now there is more negative than good.
this is not the players doing, this is the devs.. a prime and great example is the 4 year anniversary event.. never before had I seen so many people log in and give their pure disdain for how it was going to be run.. they kept saying they were listening to feedback and that nothing was set in stone.. except it was cause it released exactly the way they had said it would.. and it was well more than 90 percent of the feedback was negative..
and now with the crafting, it is going down a similier road, and they are saying the same thing they did then, and then doing the same thing (which is nothing..).
if I was the dev team, and I saw such an upheaval, I would stop and say, it isn't ready, we need to fix it, and we need to communicate that we are... you know, damage control.. instead, they hide, and say we are the problem when one of them is pusched out into the light.. which just adds gasoline to the fire..
the correct answer to the ui complaints is not, "oh, well they just don't like it because its new" no... its "hey, they don't like the new design, lets work on integrating the old design with the new functionality"... or " hey we need to ask questions that will help us understand what they don't like about it". no one asked the questions.. its easy to say we didn't give specifics (which a lot of players did), but that is no excuse, cause they never asked.. you cant claim we are at fault if you didn't ask.
if I put cloths on to go out to dinner with my significant other, and he says "oh, your going to wear that?".. I don't just say, well he didn't say what it was he didn't like, so ill just go to dinner in these cloths anyways.. I ask " what is it you don't like that im wearing?" and then I go in the bedroom and change what ever it is he thinks is meh. lol..
its the same thing here. cryptic has been really dropping the ball lately.. there was a day when they would release say, the excelsiors stats way way ahead of time on the forums, and ask what we thought...
now we get a dev blog a few days before, and there is no chance of getting feeback in before it goes live.. /facepalm
shame on you cryptic for failing, and then blameing your customers.. see how far that gets you...
that's my 2 cents.. I know its winded, sorry, but its the only way to get it across without peeps misinterpreting what im saying..
I think people are just projecting their anger of Geko on him. Geko was in the wrong, not you.
I think this is valid. There is a lot of anger at Geko and his influence on STO right now. If anything, people got upset at Mav for not voicing it, or at least not being aware of the specifics.
Indeed, can't please everyone. Even if God visited the internet, he would still get hate mail.
Personally, I don't blame Mav at all for the interview. I think people are just projecting their anger of Geko on him. Geko was in the wrong, not you.
no man, I love Mav, and I have enjoyed his show, and blah blah blah.. but this was one of his worst showings .. granted its a lot of easy fixes and he wasn't on his game (having just had oral surgery and what not).. but I felt like this was stoked radio with Al riveara (or however you spell his last name lol) as the host.. al hosted that show from the moment he got on..
not to mention, I think he was way too distracted by having to keep track of nikkis web cam (which is kind of getting old since every single episode she is in has her webcam problems playing tumpet in the back ground lol.. ) it breaks the show up too much, and throws things out of balance and cadence. which you can see effect Mav, weather he sees it or not, but his attention does wander when that happens..
a lot of people are saying 'oh you cant please everybody, so bugger em. just do what you want.'
we see where that line of reasoning has gotten cryptic. do you believe that your show has more appeal to your viewers than sto itself?
i do understand that you dont have the leverage to hold a devs feet to the fire geraldo-style, but letting geko off the hook with the 'lack of useful feedback' thing was a bit much.
a lot of people are saying 'oh you cant please everybody, so bugger em. just do what you want.'
we see where that line of reasoning has gotten cryptic. do you believe that your show has more appeal to your viewers than sto itself?
i do understand that you dont have the leverage to hold a devs feet to the fire geraldo-style, but letting geko off the hook with the 'lack of useful feedback' thing was a bit much.
Well he did preface it by saying something like "What I've seen...."
So he is obviously not actually reading the forums. He is browsing them and occasionally noticing the hate.
He is oblivious to the actual feedback, and stoked was not really prepared to educate him.
So I don't think it's a lie. It speaks to incompetence and disconnect. But it was "What I've seen is just ranting. What have you seen?" Stoked wasn't prepared for that, because they hadn't really read the threads either.
no man, I love Mav, and I have enjoyed his show, and blah blah blah.. but this was one of his worst showings .. granted its a lot of easy fixes and he wasn't on his game (having just had oral surgery and what not).. but I felt like this was stoked radio with Al riveara (or however you spell his last name lol) as the host.. al hosted that show from the moment he got on..
not to mention, I think he was way too distracted by having to keep track of nikkis web cam (which is kind of getting old since every single episode she is in has her webcam problems playing tumpet in the back ground lol.. ) it breaks the show up too much, and throws things out of balance and cadence. which you can see effect Mav, weather he sees it or not, but his attention does wander when that happens..
Can't comment on the webcam thing, since I listened while playing STO. But I can't disagree with the analysis. I would say it was one of those perfect storms, where a bunch of little things just came together, and Al's comments was the epicenter and just made it worse.
a lot of people are saying 'oh you cant please everybody, so bugger em. just do what you want.'
we see where that line of reasoning has gotten cryptic. do you believe that your show has more appeal to your viewers than sto itself?
i do understand that you dont have the leverage to hold a devs feet to the fire geraldo-style, but letting geko off the hook with the 'lack of useful feedback' thing was a bit much.
That's why I said I don't blame Mav. He was off his game and Al took advantage of it.
But Al hasn't got away with what he did either. He's going to the Trek Convention and he can't hide behind webcams or forums anymore, he has to account for his actions in public.
Well he did preface it by saying something like "What I've seen...."
So he is obviously not actually reading the forums. He is browsing them and occasionally noticing the hate.
He is oblivious to the actual feedback, and stoked was not really prepared to educate him.
So I don't think it's a lie. It speaks to incompetence and disconnect. But it was "What I've seen is just ranting. What have you seen?" Stoked wasn't prepared for that, because they hadn't really read the threads either.
STOked isn't the brown nosing toadies of the past, (wasn't a fan of old STOked). I won't blame the host for that. These forums are dangerous waters. Podcasts really aren't able to be hard hitting news they are the softball team if anything. Given that no dev will show up without softball questions is not the podcasts or host's fault.
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All diplomacy aside, i want to move the show to a move to a more hard hitting direction. The problem becomes when i shed too much negativity ppl complain im too critical and ask why i even bother playing and reporting on sto.
And when i soften it up to create balance i get the label i'm Paid Cryptic Fan Boi PR, which aggravates me to no end. But i can see how it comes off on screen as soft and i will endeavor to more accurately relay, investigate and fairly report on the issues that plague the game.
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I can be really honest , and hopefully not offend here.
For me , I love when you give all the facts, and express critical opinions.
That's valuable.
What happens for me is that many people in chat rooms don't have the kind of filter and ability to say things as diplomatically as you do, and it;s when you start reflecting the opinions of those folks, that it gets really negative.
You obviously LOVE the game, Mav. When you have in the past delivered hard hitting critical feedback, you often do it with an air of professionalism that gets lost when bringing in unfilitered opinions.
Thats been my experience as a listener.
Again, I hope that's not offending. It's not meant to be.
It at least streamlines responses and time to respond lol
ohh and..... TARGIZARD!!!!
sorry i got you with that last time and I was just hoping it worked again Tee Hee.
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I know that the forums are sometime referred to as the "sewers" by some:P - but you really should stop by more Mav - there are some long-time players here who do have good opinions and comments.
It is a hard line to walk between being critical and being a fanboy, it is certainly not an easy task. Perhaps the best thing to do in a lot of situations is just stick to the facts instead of an opinion show.
Keep at it though - 100 episodes is just around the corner:)
No offense taken, that was an honest assessment of the show and my performance. Thanks
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Im willing to take suggestions as what to fix.
As far as Nikkis voice there is not much i can do, her voical range is in the lower octaves like a baritone or tenor. I have a pro audio mixing board and if i remove the bass you wont hear her at all.
Other than that what other audio needs fixing in your opinion?
As far as the visuals, new visuals are under development for post STLV episodes starting with ep 100.
I am still open to suggestions/submissions.
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Here's how I heard it Mav, and I'm not trying to bust your chops or anything, just my view as an outside listener.
When you ask a question about what's your response to negative feedback on stuff, someone needs to have some specific examples on hand. When the dev asks for them, and all you can say is 'Uh, well, I'm not sure, but there was some complaining'...that's a problem. It comes across as either you're unwilling to ask something tough/expose the dev to something he doesn't want to hear, or you just failed to do your homework in finding that feedback. I don't pretend to know which, if either is true, it just comes across that way.
Nobody is saying you have to go hardcore and bust a dev's balls, just that if valid negative feedback is given, make sure the dev knows about some specific examples.
Also one thing that stood out is me is sometimes Al doesn't understand the intent of a question, or deflects, I'm not sure which. Specific example is when Nikki asked about the time cost/investment in crafting, and Al goes off on a tangent about dilithium costs. That wasn't what was asked, and nobody interjected. Just seems odd, I dunno.
I hope this comes across as the intent behind it, just my observations and not trying to jump you.
Trying to think of how to put it. I didn't get the impression that you were a Fan Boi as much as it seemed you were walking on eggshells and lacked the information necessary to be critical.
You don't have to be negative per-say, that won't be very enjoyable either. But you did not seem very critical. And in order to be critical you will need to have the relevant information which would require a good amount of time spent to get it.
Note this is a nit pick example merely used to illustrate my point and not a criticism. For example you mentioned people should not continue to ask questions that have already been answered. Yet you asked about the romulan boff that is not dismissible even though that has already been answered in the forums. I understand, you don't read the forum dev tracker all the time and that is perfectly fine but it made you appear a bit silly in comparison.
It is that disconnect creating the problem. You cannot ask hard hitting critical questions in an interview while appearing to be walking on eggshells without it being off a bit. Their is nothing wrong with having a show that is not critical either. If that is the kind of show you enjoy making then make that kind of show.
Stop worrying about the bashing you will *inevitably* get when you interview a dev. It doesn't matter how nice you are. It won't matter how "hard-hitting" you are. There WILL be a group of people in this forum who will send you hate mail, and threats of violence. There WILL ALSO be another group of people on this forum who will pat your back and say well done.
The fact is, you won't be able to please everyone. And that's OK. Keep doin' what you're doing and do it because you love it, not for anyone else.
Quite so.
Make the podcast you'd like to hear.
Please don't try to predict what I, for example, might want.
If I feel strongly enough about it, I should make my own.
Of course, I'd never get a dev to speak to me more than once, but thats just me.
bottom line that i cant dispute, whether the listeners and viewers like or dislike the show, one thing is paramount, you all still took the time to attempt to watch and gave good critical criticism that i can take back with me and work on.
thanks everyone for still watching and giving your input
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Integrity <
Aim for this
What do YOU think/believe about a situation? Really think about it.. and ask honest questions from there.
My 2 ec.
Keep on Truckin'.. You'll get there.
I have a question about the comments by Geko about the STO community if what is being posted is an exaggeration and being blown out of proportions or if the posts are correct in his exact wording?
I have just read a bit of your last conversation on your FB wall. A player says he got banned here by a VMod for having the guts to speak out. Well, A VMod can't ban someone, he reports them to the PWE Community Managers and they re-read his posts and decide to ban or to warn.
You get banned here for trolling and insulting players, Devs, and PWE/Cryptic. So there surely was a reason behind him getting banned, not just for telling his negative impressions..
nothing but love
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You can't let someone get away with such falsehoods. I am not saying you should be rude but confronting the interview is part of the job. Otherwise you risk becoming their mouthpiece.
- Judge Aaron Satie
This is very much true. I've done online radio for countless years, podcasts for years, and was even a DJ for an STO radio station for 3. :P I know how hard it is to try to "appease" everyone. You won't ever be able too. Do what YOU want to do if people don't like it then that's fine. If they do, then that's awesome.
Now yes, you should always listen to feedback. That's a critical thing to do, but also don't listen to every piece and take it all in to change YOUR show. Are there going to be woopsies? Damn skippy. No podcast/radio show/forum post is perfect. You will have boo boo's, people will then latch on to those and ride you for the rest of your time on it lol.
But rinkster said it best - If people don't like what you do they should make their own. It's not easy by a long shot.
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If you are referencing shows then yeah keep to your format. Podcasts and Radio don't make a bit of difference as they are not taken seriously. You do that for enjoyment and that's great and you do that for loyal listeners. Don't pretend podcasts matter outside of marketing.
but even the ardent supporters are getting tired, and depressed about the game.
let me give you an example. from october, 2012
yesterday:
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I know this person very well, and to see her enthusiasm for a game two years ago to the depressed messages of yesterday is a sad thing. and unfortunately I think it's widespread. people are getting frustrated by things being changed that don't need to be, and broken things never getting fixed. Although people were upset with the dilithium costs in the old crafting system, the real issue was there was nothing worth crafting.
if they had added Mk XII gear people would have been far happier., but I digress.
if you want to hit the devs with the hard question, ask them what they will do about the malaise people feel about PWE/Cryptic just wanting our dollars, and not doing anything to make us want to PLAY
Indeed, can't please everyone. Even if God visited the internet, he would still get hate mail.
Personally, I don't blame Mav at all for the interview. I think people are just projecting their anger of Geko on him. Geko was in the wrong, not you.
this show mav, was an all time low in my books, I listen to all of them, sometimes hop in the live stream.. but I know you had teeth out and what not, but it was a low... and I know youll pick it back up, you are crazy dedicated and I know you love trek, and I know you want the game to be better, and your doing your part (sometimes lol)..
that being said, check out my pm on facebook..
moving on..
we will in all likely hood not see teir 6 ships.. it was said in interviews that there would be no t6 ships.. mainly because they felt that 8 hardspots total on a ship was good enough. (had to do with a lot of factors) and that devalueing ships people have bought would not be a good idea.. not to mention, its not as easy as everyone thinks to just add slots and stats to a ship via crafting or what not.. it would take way way too much resources.. (as has been said in interviews..)
they always said yes to level cap increase (and if memory serves this will be the last one as they said they do not like level cap increasing). and no to t6 ships..
that being said..
Al "gecko" R. has always had this discontempt for the star trek fans/sto players.. in almost every interview he does, he tries to reverse our "problems" and "dislikes" right back on us.. he says that the fans are silly for wanting ships we like (like wolf 359 ships and other canon ships). he has always steered the game in his own personal direction. which you cant do as a gamer.. you have to understand there is different likes and dislikes out there, and you have to find common ground..
as far as people not likeing the new ui because of it being "different" well, maybe you should read into that.. maybe we liked the flow of the old ui better.. there has been changes that have been made that everyone loved, and there has been and will be changes people don't like.. this isn't about a dev thinking something is better, its about the community as a whole thinking it..
as far as the whining, and crying, and toxic nature of the forums.. well, I have played, and still do play a lot of games.. I am active on a lot of forums.. sto's is by far the worst by a whole heaping lot..
so should the devs be saying, they are whiners, and bit*hes, or should they say, how did it get to this point.. if you look, there is a breadcrumb trail starting from day one.. over the years, the negativity gets worse.. I used to be very friendly and accepting on the forums.. now im less so, and I find myself not making positive comments as much.. and when I look back, I see how as I had negative comments, they were not addressed, and so they build, and pile up, and now there is more negative than good.
this is not the players doing, this is the devs.. a prime and great example is the 4 year anniversary event.. never before had I seen so many people log in and give their pure disdain for how it was going to be run.. they kept saying they were listening to feedback and that nothing was set in stone.. except it was cause it released exactly the way they had said it would.. and it was well more than 90 percent of the feedback was negative..
and now with the crafting, it is going down a similier road, and they are saying the same thing they did then, and then doing the same thing (which is nothing..).
if I was the dev team, and I saw such an upheaval, I would stop and say, it isn't ready, we need to fix it, and we need to communicate that we are... you know, damage control.. instead, they hide, and say we are the problem when one of them is pusched out into the light.. which just adds gasoline to the fire..
the correct answer to the ui complaints is not, "oh, well they just don't like it because its new" no... its "hey, they don't like the new design, lets work on integrating the old design with the new functionality"... or " hey we need to ask questions that will help us understand what they don't like about it". no one asked the questions.. its easy to say we didn't give specifics (which a lot of players did), but that is no excuse, cause they never asked.. you cant claim we are at fault if you didn't ask.
if I put cloths on to go out to dinner with my significant other, and he says "oh, your going to wear that?".. I don't just say, well he didn't say what it was he didn't like, so ill just go to dinner in these cloths anyways.. I ask " what is it you don't like that im wearing?" and then I go in the bedroom and change what ever it is he thinks is meh. lol..
its the same thing here. cryptic has been really dropping the ball lately.. there was a day when they would release say, the excelsiors stats way way ahead of time on the forums, and ask what we thought...
now we get a dev blog a few days before, and there is no chance of getting feeback in before it goes live.. /facepalm
shame on you cryptic for failing, and then blameing your customers.. see how far that gets you...
that's my 2 cents.. I know its winded, sorry, but its the only way to get it across without peeps misinterpreting what im saying..
I think this is valid. There is a lot of anger at Geko and his influence on STO right now. If anything, people got upset at Mav for not voicing it, or at least not being aware of the specifics.
no man, I love Mav, and I have enjoyed his show, and blah blah blah.. but this was one of his worst showings .. granted its a lot of easy fixes and he wasn't on his game (having just had oral surgery and what not).. but I felt like this was stoked radio with Al riveara (or however you spell his last name lol) as the host.. al hosted that show from the moment he got on..
not to mention, I think he was way too distracted by having to keep track of nikkis web cam (which is kind of getting old since every single episode she is in has her webcam problems playing tumpet in the back ground lol.. ) it breaks the show up too much, and throws things out of balance and cadence. which you can see effect Mav, weather he sees it or not, but his attention does wander when that happens..
we see where that line of reasoning has gotten cryptic. do you believe that your show has more appeal to your viewers than sto itself?
i do understand that you dont have the leverage to hold a devs feet to the fire geraldo-style, but letting geko off the hook with the 'lack of useful feedback' thing was a bit much.
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I quite agree. It was a bald face lie.
Well he did preface it by saying something like "What I've seen...."
So he is obviously not actually reading the forums. He is browsing them and occasionally noticing the hate.
He is oblivious to the actual feedback, and stoked was not really prepared to educate him.
So I don't think it's a lie. It speaks to incompetence and disconnect. But it was "What I've seen is just ranting. What have you seen?" Stoked wasn't prepared for that, because they hadn't really read the threads either.
Can't comment on the webcam thing, since I listened while playing STO. But I can't disagree with the analysis. I would say it was one of those perfect storms, where a bunch of little things just came together, and Al's comments was the epicenter and just made it worse.
That's why I said I don't blame Mav. He was off his game and Al took advantage of it.
But Al hasn't got away with what he did either. He's going to the Trek Convention and he can't hide behind webcams or forums anymore, he has to account for his actions in public.
STOked isn't the brown nosing toadies of the past, (wasn't a fan of old STOked). I won't blame the host for that. These forums are dangerous waters. Podcasts really aren't able to be hard hitting news they are the softball team if anything. Given that no dev will show up without softball questions is not the podcasts or host's fault.