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tonyalmeida2tonyalmeida2 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
This thread is dedicated to negative feedback on Cryptic's communication as of late.

Since the last thread got closed for being too edgy, we'll try to keep this one more civilized since negative feedback is still allowed just as long as it is done respectfully.

I would like to remind Cryptic and its personnel that they do still have forums, and a website. All of which I am sure that they are paying money for, yet they haven't seemed to like to use as of late.

Cryptic has favored 3rd party websites, i.e. social media and podcasts more than their own website lately and quite frankly it is annoying. When I want to read up on what is happening with STO, I want to read about it on this website from the people who know what they're talking about as opposed to having to hunt through MULTIPLE other websites and having to even listen to other people's promotions and whatnot.

Using 3rd party websites to distribute information and promote marketing efforts is a fine tactic, HOWEVER, it should never be the sole means of information distribution. If there is only one place where information gets released it should always originate on their official website/forums.

#youhaveforums , #pleaseactuallyusethem
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  • a3001a3001 Member Posts: 1,132 Arc User
    edited July 2014
    Where do you think they post patch notes?
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  • generalmocogeneralmoco Member Posts: 1,634
    edited July 2014
    someone doesn't trust other websites... You no like looking for the answer, well sorry... what this guy said ^
  • tonyalmeida2tonyalmeida2 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited July 2014
    I'm well aware of where they post patch notes. However until it was posted solely on TWITTER I was not aware of s9.5's official release date. Had it not been for someone WHO DOES NOT work for Cryptic's posting it, I still wouldn't have known.
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  • azurianstarazurianstar Member Posts: 6,985 Arc User
    edited July 2014
    They do post on forums, it's just on Reddit. :P


    Seriously, they talked how there is a lack of information getting to the players (well those who don't visit the forum). Given the Risa event, people obviously have no clue about the Calender and looking up events to come.

    Maybe there should be a bulletin board that's very noticeable at Hubs. And since they are getting rid of the Dilithum Store, maybe replacing the Button with an Event Button would be a good thing.
  • john98837john98837 Member Posts: 761 Arc User
    edited July 2014
    What really grinds me gears is all the audio interview TRIBBLE they like to do, and won't provide a transcript. Like I really want to sit there and listen to a bunch of guys blather on for an hour to gleam some little nugget of info.
  • virusdancervirusdancer Member Posts: 18,687 Arc User
    edited July 2014
    You no like looking for the answer, well sorry...

    You have your website as your core. You can use social media to disseminate information released on the website to broaden the reach of that information reaching potential interested parties; but if you do not post that information on your own website or in your own forums - well, all sorts of expletives come to mind.

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    Husband: Maybe you should call around all the local restaurants to find out.

    Neighbor: Ted, sorry to hear that you're getting a divorce.
    Ted: What?
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    Ted: Don't you have to read me rights?
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  • atlantraatlantra Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited July 2014

    Wife: Where are we going to eat on our anniversary? You haven't told me.
    Husband: Maybe you should call around all the local restaurants to find out.

    Neighbor: Ted, sorry to hear that you're getting a divorce.
    Ted: What?
    Neighbor: I read a tweet from Danny down the block about it.

    Ted: Don't you have to read me rights?
    Police Officer: They're available for reading on a number of websites.

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  • malkarrismalkarris Member Posts: 797 Arc User
    edited July 2014
    I rather have to agree with the OP. I come to this site to find out what is going on in the game. Its fine you give out information on other sites, but don't you think it should be like ripples from a stone? The stone should be here, on this site, and all the ripples elsewhere should tell you to come here for the full story.

    EDIT:
    They do post on forums, it's just on Reddit. :P


    Seriously, they talked how there is a lack of information getting to the players (well those who don't visit the forum). Given the Risa event, people obviously have no clue about the Calender and looking up events to come.

    Maybe there should be a bulletin board that's very noticeable at Hubs. And since they are getting rid of the Dilithum Store, maybe replacing the Button with an Event Button would be a good thing.

    Honestly, that's not a problem with the website giving information, that a problem with people not knowing the game. Solve it with a new player pop up saying here is the calendar, they already have it for pretty much every other thing in the game.
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  • sle1989sle1989 Member Posts: 552 Arc User
    edited July 2014
    john98837 wrote: »
    What really grinds me gears is all the audio interview TRIBBLE they like to do, and won't provide a transcript. Like I really want to sit there and listen to a bunch of guys blather on for an hour to gleam some little nugget of info.

    Cryptic isn't actually responsible for the interviews though, they are done by third party people/web sites so it would be up to them to write a transcript and not Cryptic.


    I do agree that I wish they had announced the actual release date of 9.5 in a dev blog, but typically when they announce something on a third party site (say, Priority One Podcasts), they provide a link on their site, perhaps they could do that with Twitter and Facebook?
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  • rickeyredshirtrickeyredshirt Member Posts: 1,059 Arc User
    edited July 2014
    This is all giving me a chuckle (at Cryptic's expense). Why wait until Thursday for certain rage and doom? It happens all too frequently (and deservedly so) on these forums.
  • tonyalmeida2tonyalmeida2 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited July 2014
    This is all giving me a chuckle (at Cryptic's expense). Why wait until Thursday for certain rage and doom? It happens all too frequently (and deservedly so) on these forums.

    I'm not forecasting doom, I'm merely expressing my dissatisfaction and negative feedback about how certain issues are being handled recently.
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  • rickeyredshirtrickeyredshirt Member Posts: 1,059 Arc User
    edited July 2014
    I'm not forecasting doom, I'm merely expressing my dissatisfaction and negative feedback about how certain issues are being handled recently.

    I agree with you, I'm just saying that there will be that sect of posters here who will always call you a doomsayer for merely stating your opinion even when it's based on fact. #rosetintedglasses
  • tonyalmeida2tonyalmeida2 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited July 2014
    I agree with you, I'm just saying that there will be that sect of posters here who will always call you a doomsayer for merely stating your opinion even when it's based on fact. #rosetintedglasses

    Oh my mistake, I mistook you for one of Cryptic's yes men. My deepest apologies.
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  • rickeyredshirtrickeyredshirt Member Posts: 1,059 Arc User
    edited July 2014
    Oh my mistake, I mistook you for one of Cryptic's yes men. My deepest apologies.

    My sig and sigpic should have been a giveaway but I can see how my text could be misinterpreted. :D
  • rinksterrinkster Member Posts: 3,549 Arc User
    edited July 2014
    This thread is dedicated to negative feedback on Cryptic's communication as of late.

    Since the last thread got closed for being too edgy, we'll try to keep this one more civilized since negative feedback is still allowed just as long as it is done respectfully.

    I would like to remind Cryptic and its personnel that they do still have forums, and a website. All of which I am sure that they are paying money for, yet they haven't seemed to like to use as of late.

    Cryptic has favored 3rd party websites, i.e. social media and podcasts more than their own website lately and quite frankly it is annoying. When I want to read up on what is happening with STO, I want to read about it on this website from the people who know what they're talking about as opposed to having to hunt through MULTIPLE other websites and having to even listen to other people's promotions and whatnot.

    Using 3rd party websites to distribute information and promote marketing efforts is a fine tactic, HOWEVER, it should never be the sole means of information distribution. If there is only one place where information gets released it should always originate on their official website/forums.

    #youhaveforums , #pleaseactuallyusethem



    Customer relations is a full contact sport.

    Sadly, there seems to be a concerted move away from actual contact with the playerbase.

    This is not the way to get me to open my wallet.
  • daan2006daan2006 Member Posts: 5,346 Arc User
    edited July 2014
    I agree with you, I'm just saying that there will be that sect of posters here who will always call you a doomsayer for merely stating your opinion even when it's based on fact. #rosetintedglasses

    this be very true :)
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  • originalspockoriginalspock Member Posts: 809 Arc User
    edited July 2014
    Discussing moderation is a no no...
  • rinksterrinkster Member Posts: 3,549 Arc User
    edited July 2014
    Discussing moderation is a no no...

    Not moderation, announcements.
  • a3001a3001 Member Posts: 1,132 Arc User
    edited July 2014
    This thread is dedicated to negative feedback on Cryptic's communication as of late.

    Since the last thread got closed for being too edgy,
    Discussing moderation is a no no...

    i see what you did there...
    Rejoice JJ Trek people....

    http://www.arcgames.com/en/games/star-trek-online/news/detail/10052253

    Why are you not rejoicing?
  • tonyalmeida2tonyalmeida2 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited July 2014
    If stating that a thread got closed qualifies as discussing moderation then maybe Cryptic should stay on social media.
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  • azurianstarazurianstar Member Posts: 6,985 Arc User
    edited July 2014
    malkarris wrote: »
    Honestly, that's not a problem with the website giving information, that a problem with people not knowing the game. Solve it with a new player pop up saying here is the calendar, they already have it for pretty much every other thing in the game.

    If it was so simple, then we wouldn't have lost the Exploration clusters, "because people got lost in them". :rolleyes:
  • a3001a3001 Member Posts: 1,132 Arc User
    edited July 2014
    I think that everyone should calm down. Take a nap, run a lap, eat a cannoli or seven. Just chill guys...
    Rejoice JJ Trek people....

    http://www.arcgames.com/en/games/star-trek-online/news/detail/10052253

    Why are you not rejoicing?
  • mirrorchaosmirrorchaos Member Posts: 9,844 Arc User
    edited July 2014
    This thread is dedicated to negative feedback on Cryptic's communication as of late.

    Since the last thread got closed for being too edgy, we'll try to keep this one more civilized since negative feedback is still allowed just as long as it is done respectfully.

    I would like to remind Cryptic and its personnel that they do still have forums, and a website. All of which I am sure that they are paying money for, yet they haven't seemed to like to use as of late.

    Cryptic has favored 3rd party websites, i.e. social media and podcasts more than their own website lately and quite frankly it is annoying. When I want to read up on what is happening with STO, I want to read about it on this website from the people who know what they're talking about as opposed to having to hunt through MULTIPLE other websites and having to even listen to other people's promotions and whatnot.

    Using 3rd party websites to distribute information and promote marketing efforts is a fine tactic, HOWEVER, it should never be the sole means of information distribution. If there is only one place where information gets released it should always originate on their official website/forums.

    #youhaveforums , #pleaseactuallyusethem

    your not the only one. makes you wonder who actually runs the press release section of the team. why this whole thing hasnt been tweaked to bring all the information and detail in one location. instead you got geko who refuses to do anything other then podcasts, and the rest of us forumers here are the last to find out about anything for months.
    a3001 wrote: »
    Where do you think they post patch notes?

    patch notes is different from official news.
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  • a3001a3001 Member Posts: 1,132 Arc User
    edited July 2014
    patch notes is different from official news.

    So patch notes are therefore NOT official news, therefore not official, nor news. Duly noted.
    Rejoice JJ Trek people....

    http://www.arcgames.com/en/games/star-trek-online/news/detail/10052253

    Why are you not rejoicing?
  • jarodroto123jarodroto123 Member Posts: 1,337 Arc User
    edited July 2014
    a3001 wrote: »
    So patch notes are therefore NOT official news, therefore not official, nor news. Duly noted.

    You sir, win a cookie *hands a3001 a cookie* :D
  • thatcursedwolfthatcursedwolf Member Posts: 1,617 Arc User
    edited July 2014
    john98837 wrote: »
    What really grinds me gears is all the audio interview TRIBBLE they like to do, and won't provide a transcript. Like I really want to sit there and listen to a bunch of guys blather on for an hour to gleam some little nugget of info.

    Transcripts are like so Gen X? You should like down my app? It like uses speech to like text to send you tweets from the YouTube video in like unsearchable meme gifs?
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  • breadandcircusesbreadandcircuses Member Posts: 2,355 Arc User
    edited July 2014
    [EDIT] Oh never mind, I was going to play the flawed logic game, decided against it :P
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  • iconiansiconians Member Posts: 6,987 Arc User
    edited July 2014
    I'm going to reach for the low-hanging fruit, here.

    Imagine Joss Whedon is having an interview about reviving Firefly. Only the TV is muted, there is no way to unmute it -- and you don't know how to read lips.

    Now imagine you've been a Firefly fanboy/fangirl and have been waiting for this interview for years.

    Not a fan of Firefly? No problem.

    Imagine your favorite television network is picking up a new Star Trek series, but the entire interview is in sign language (and you don't know sign language). The entire interview is conducted in sign language. No vocals. No captions. No subtitles.

    How irritated would you be that you have to ask around for people who watched the interview and knows sign language as to give you that information?

    Because that's what it's like for people like me and others who find out a dev interview is audio-only.

    It's irritating. It's degrading. And it certainly is not helpful. It's the opposite of helpful.

    And PWE/Cryptic knows this. And they haven't done anything about it.

    I bet if there were a few thousand hearing impaired Star Trek fans in Las Vegas talking to each other through sign language, with Al Rivera sitting in the middle of them... he'd kind of want to know what they were talking about.

    I'd love to be there in Las Vegas just to walk up to the developers and just start talking to them with my hands. And then if they want a translator, to just tell them that I'll accept donations and their own volunteer time to translate what I'm saying to them.

    That's what it's like in those shoes.

    Of course, if they continue to simply not care and/or do anything about their policies, I know one hand gesture that they will more than likely understand (even if they don't know sign language!).
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  • annemarie30annemarie30 Member Posts: 2,700 Arc User
    edited July 2014
    They do post on forums, it's just on Reddit. :P


    Seriously, they talked how there is a lack of information getting to the players (well those who don't visit the forum). Given the Risa event, people obviously have no clue about the Calender and looking up events to come.

    Maybe there should be a bulletin board that's very noticeable at Hubs. And since they are getting rid of the Dilithum Store, maybe replacing the Button with an Event Button would be a good thing.

    something like those infomercials in starship troopers. "Kurland Here, Would you like to know MORE?"
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