LTS only have TWO exclusive perks over Gold, Liberated Borg and LTS combadge.
You dont see how it hurts? you are turning those two perks into a 1000 day vet reward as well making it so you now gain 500 Zen each month because LTS is a LIFETIME subscription.
Right now you want to turn LTS into being the 1000 Vet reward and you dont see a problem with that? How about the people that brought LTS per-launch and the ones pre-F2P?
As I said, Subscription was NEVER meant to pay for LTS in installments and I also will just say again that LTS ISNT a Veteran Reward.
you forgot the most important one after 1000 days you don't go back to being a free to play player.
what it was once meant to be is one thing, things change all the time.
what can be added in the way of rewards can always change, if a company sees an opportunity to make some extra money why would they not change their policy's.
if they added this reward would it hurt you or me or any other lifetimer, no it would not, are we so elitist as to consider anyone who for one reason or another is unable to pay the full price undeserving or below us in some way, surly not.
surly someone who has paid a greater amount in subscription fees then any lifetimer should get some recognition for their contribution.
if I as a lifetime member can see this surly there is hope that others can too.
would it cost anything for cryptic to give this gift to past and future 1000 dayers no it would not all the perks are virtual anyway even the zen
I see a chance here to make some money for cryptic and perfect world, quite a lot of money actually.
if only one free to play player is tempted into subscribing if they introduced this that is money they would not have got before.
say though as few as 10% of free players were to take up the offer, that's a heck of a lot of capital coming into the company as a result.
and the more money cryptic and perfect world make the better it is for us players, it will help the game to continue longer.
as far as I can see cryptic and perfect world has nothing to loose and everything to gain.
if the worst happens and a few subscribers fall back to free to play along the way nothing has been lost but they still gained the few months of subs they might not have got before.
if they choose to implement it is entirely up to them but I happen to think its a very good idea and would please a heck of a lot of people not least the sharholders of the company.
When I think about everything we've been through together,
maybe it's not the destination that matters, maybe it's the journey,
and if that journey takes a little longer,
so we can do something we all believe in,
I can't think of any place I'd rather be or any people I'd rather be with.
So if they lose the stipen and EC limit, just make a new gold reward, LTG (Life Time Gold), and let them keep the stipen and limit, but do not receive all the LTS (Life Time Subscription) rewards.
If players want the Borg and combadge (that's really all we get extra?), let them pay for the LTS sub.
They might make the EC cap increase a veteran reward which will cause some people that already bought it to get mad, but Cryptic will never give the stipend to current F2Pers.
If STO didn't have LTS, then they game would be completely F2P.
So if they lose the stipen and EC limit, just make a new gold reward, LTG (Life Time Gold), and let them keep the stipen and limit, but do not receive all the LTS (Life Time Subscription) rewards.
If players want the Borg and combadge (that's really all we get extra?), let them pay for the LTS sub.
is that all you have to worry about that they might get the Borg and combadge, that's really sad.
When I think about everything we've been through together,
maybe it's not the destination that matters, maybe it's the journey,
and if that journey takes a little longer,
so we can do something we all believe in,
I can't think of any place I'd rather be or any people I'd rather be with.
They might make the EC cap increase a veteran reward which will cause some people that already bought it to get mad, but Cryptic will never give the stipend to current F2Pers.
If STO didn't have LTS, then they game would be completely F2P.
I had already bought the EC cap before I went lifetime and it didn't bother me.
so if they didn't have LTS there would not be any monthly subbers, think again.
had enough of this conversation.
When I think about everything we've been through together,
maybe it's not the destination that matters, maybe it's the journey,
and if that journey takes a little longer,
so we can do something we all believe in,
I can't think of any place I'd rather be or any people I'd rather be with.
lifetime "Veterans"/members get a combage, borg character, and all vet awards instantly, so thats 3 benefits not 2. Sure people who played and were subscribed 1000 days now have all those vet awards. But im willing to bet all you LTS people did not buy the LTS at 1000 days, your probably bought it a couple 100 dayys in sparing you 800 days of subbing. Im also willing to bet that not everyone here has actually played 1000 days and that goes for all lifetime members.
So thats 3 benefits, the 3rd one being the most important. Sure are you awarding the people who subbed 1000 days, sure. Maybe it was a stupid idea sure. But like 1 guy said, not everyone can shell out 300 dollars up front, and maybe some want to pay the sub so that the game can last longer and possibly get better, but idk because im apparently stupid.
I really honestly dont care if you guys think my decision was incredibly stupid. All im asking is for one small small thing for paying it. I dont care if its a carrier or a 10% bonus trait or a extra trait slot or even a small unique phaser pistol or a extra character slot, I would be happy for any of these.
Will this rip off LTS people, no it wont, I dont know where you guys are getting this from. I will even add a 4th benefit that lifers have, they never have to pay a sub or pay anything at all ever again and get the same benefits gold players get for free.
So thats 4 exclusive benefits.
Was staying gold stupid. It could have been possibly. But nobody knows if it was, because they dont know WHY the person paid it. So when you say its "stupid", i assume you have a reason for why every person who paid monthly did it, and i guess it has to be stupid.
No, you are asking for LTS because thats what you are asking, the rest is part of the Veteran Program.
LTS and Subscription are not equal, LTS have all subscription perks plus those two unique perks ... removing then to make then 1000 day veteran rewards is simply taking away LTS perks to give it away, LTS does not equal to just Veteran rewards, it have two unque perks.
I suggested it as a option, but i said in my OP that i knew people probably would not like that and it turns out to be that way. Im not asking for your borg or your combage. So im guessing your pretty torn up about that small single special weapon that I am suggesting that probably wont convince people to go gold anyway.
I also see your trying to read peoples minds, nice try, but it did not work.
Thats not exactly true, Neverwinter had no problems with their "Hero of the North" thats pretty much their LTS and Neverwinter is F2P without ever having a sub model.
STO still have subs, otherwise STO LTS would be akin to Neverwinter Hero of the North pack and it just would not have the striped.
But their is a huge difference between the LTS and the Hero of the North pack. The LTS main sell point was paying once for the subscription and never pay again for it. The Hero of the North is just a bunch of ingame items and perks.
STO is a Freemium model where there is a mixture of subscribers and F2Pers while Neverwinter is just F2Pers. Lifers paid for a lifetime subscription to the game so if the game went completely F2P, then their lifetime subscription would be cancelled. The only two PWE games that are Freemium are Star Trek Online and Champions Online due to them having Lifetime Subscriptions. Therefore, if Star Trek Online and Champions Online didn't have Lifetime Subscriptions, then they would be F2P just like every other PWE game.
Of course, STO could have something similar to the Hero of the North pack since they already did it with the Legacy Pack. There is a good chance that Expansion 2 will have something similar.
So im very happy at this accomplishment. I know this is late saying it but i really am lol. I did not buy lifetime but was gold from day 1 to 1000 and counting.
So, i was thinking about everyone else who did this. So as we all know, 1000 day is the last 100 day thing where we get awards. And for those still paying gold the only good advantage is having 500 zen per month. So it kinda gets pointless after 1000 days.
So i was thinking to award these people who did this, why not give them a award for going 1000 days gold?
I see 3 options:
-They get lifetime free or atleast the in game stuff lifetime members get, this i believe would not be popular but im throwing it out there anyway or get lifetime but without any of the titles or items, just play for free and get 500 isk stipend.
- They get special items of their own and a exclusive title.
- or a special trait or something that might be a 5 or 10% bonus to *blank* or multiple *blanks*.
I mean at least the 3rd or 2nd option. Just as a small reward for being gold that long.
Gratulations OP for having the patience and reaching the 1k without resorting to the easy way; I doubt there are many subbers at that point. My guess is that most are either LTS or F2P with any random number below 400 days subbed.
And thats why there would probably no new rewards. LTS(ubscription) is all regular sub rewards going into it. Its part of the deal. With more ppl at 1k+ days having LTS than regualr subs and not paying monthly that would be something done for free.
Your option one is the only thing I can think off which could make them a bit more if they add a LTS as, for example, 1100 day reward.
Gratulations OP for having the patience and reaching the 1k without resorting to the easy way; I doubt there are many subbers at that point. My guess is that most are either LTS or F2P with any random number below 400 days subbed.
And thats why there would probably no new rewards. LTS(ubscription) is all regular sub rewards going into it. Its part of the deal. With more ppl at 1k+ days having LTS than regualr subs and not paying monthly that would be something done for free.
Your option one is the only thing I can think off which could make them a bit more if they add a LTS as, for example, 1100 day reward.
Just saying pre-order packs exist, LTS when originally was available only given those 2 perks ... Veteran rewards is simply a thing LTS have access because of STO subscription model.
If we remove the Vet rewards you just get unique combadge and Borg race outside the titles, Hero of the North have Drow Renegade and Panther, Drow was unlocked later but Panther is still exclusive .. plus they get a exclusive fashion outfit and access to a VIP rooms, they are pretty much the same except they get a exclusive companion and we get a exclusive race option.
Hero of the North still have their exclusive Drow race. There is a free Drow race, but the HotN drow has some exclusive tattoos and a different racial ability. It would be the same as the difference between an Alien using the 7 of 9 costume implants and the Liberated Borg race.
There is the priority login, some extra character slots, some other exclusive items, 2 million Astral Diamonds (their version of dilithium), and some bonuses for other PWE games like the Andorian Light Escort. The HotN has far more bonuses than the LTS simply due to the fact that they are for different things. Most of the value for the LTS is strictly for subscription while its other benefits are merely a bonus.
I am F2P, but if you went 1000 days as Gold, then, by my math, you almost doubled the LTS. IMO, I think any one that gets 1000+ days Gold should be promoted to the LTS, free of charge.
Just my 2 EC worth.
THIS!!
And without our "poor financial decision" this game wouldn't even still be afloat.
And without our "poor financial decision" this game wouldn't even still be afloat.
It is lockboxes that are keeping this game afloat. There are just not that many people that see the point of the LTS after the game went F2P. A lot of the Lifers that bought it pre-F2P wouldn't have bought the LTS if we started playing after the game went F2P. I would certainly have given far more thought into purchasing it than the impulse buy that it was. Seeing myself playing the game for years and it costing $240 for the subscription compared to whatever it would have been was a very good deal at the time. Right now, the main reason for purchasing the LTS no longer exists.
The less I say about the LTS changes, the better. When I got to 999 days, they released the news about a new LTS reward. My hopes were quickly destroyed when every Lifer would get every veteran reward and someone who started playing the game a month ago would get to mess around with the Chimera before me even if it was a lousy ship. A lot of this pain could have been averted if they made the LTS changes a month later.
Who cares? Why does it matter so much?
That's one thing I've never understood about you elitists. It's like, why do you care so much about what someone else has?
♪ I'm going around not in circles but in spirographs.
It's pretty much this hard to keep just one timeline intact. ♪
Because the 1000 day vets think they are special, but it doesn't matter how much they spend on a monthly sub they are no better than anyone else. Poor guys.
That's one thing I've never understood about you elitists. It's like, why do you care so much about what someone else has?
When did I say I was an elitist? Hard work should be rewarded. If you ran 500 Elite STFs to finally get that final STF piece and the next day Cryptic announced that players will just need to do one STF to get each piece of equipment, then all the effort you put into the game would have been pointless. Obviously Cryptic made it require some serious effort through the Reputation system instead of keeping it excruciatingly painful for some players.
I went a little more than 1100 plus days and was playing from day one. I gave it to 1100 days paid gold just to see if they would reconsider & respect people that payed monthly to play. They answered that question when they tossed Gold and Life under the shuttlecraft by giving new life people all the vet rewards from first day they buy life. Also the fact that they could not bother making a simple shirt or belt every 100 days past 1000 for people paying. So my 6 month sub ran out and now I'm a freebe!
They have these life sales and it's like I want to do it! Just give me a real reason! But the fact is there is no reason for 1000 day plus people to go life. Free zen? Tell me how much zen you can buy at the $70 plus one spends on a 6 month sub. More than you get free;). Oh bank cap?? I fixed that first day I was free. Buying that fix at the zen store was way cheaper than the 70 plus 6 month sub.
I'm a hardcore trek guy. I love this game but Cryptic really made me dislike them with the above. Now getting rid of exploration I just don't know anymore. I still play but damn it's getting upsetting with some of the stuff they do. Thinking of taking a break after Risa. Log weekly until 10 comes out. I was not a crafter before. If I find that the gear is better than Maco or fleet maybe. If not what's the point.
I am F2P, but if you went 1000 days as Gold, then, by my math, you almost doubled the LTS. IMO, I think any one that gets 1000+ days Gold should be promoted to the LTS, free of charge.
Just my 2 EC worth.
Yeah, announcing that you paid 2x the rate of a LTS for only 1000 days doesn't seem like something you'd want to throw a party over.
Sometimes I think I play STO just to have something to complain about on the forums.
let's see.. you get career officer on the Forum.. you get a real playable borg.. and you get a hideous combadge..
and you get all the 1000 day vet stuff RIGHT NOW.
I think that's bout it.
Think about this, nothing here is much of a loss.
Forum Title: Yah like anyone really cares about these and frankly, i think the **Faction** Veteran title just looks better anyways if you care that much.
Playable Borg: Ok so look at this, whats really that special about this species? Nothing it just gets a fancy root effect every one minute. Make an alien, a romulan, or buy zen and make a caitian all would be better (aliens get the extra trait thing which is great).
Combage: I'm sorry but i must agree this is, like the vet ships, nothing to write home about. I mean if your jelous of these few small things I start to question if you have a good taste in looks. The vet ships (I got off topic) are terrible ships endgame and a combadge... well who looks and cares.
THAT BEING SAID
While i am an LTS and do understand why others complain about this kind of request (well I really don't), I think that them spending considerably more should reward them with something. So I take this event, get it for $200 vs idk what it is but lets say they spend $600... over many years... why should I be any more rewarded than them I gave Cryptic less, I didn't have to wait or really think about it, they should get something special like their own free combadge or a special place at the captains table who knows. $200 in 10 seconds is a lot smaller commitment than $300 in a little under 3 years... both sides of the argument are valid as far as im concerned.
As you said/asked earlier in the thread because of your status as a disabled vet do you deserve more, yes you do deserve more and I salute you for serving your country. This statement is not meant to be an insult and if I have offended you please accept my most humble apology.
On the topic at hand IMHO if you go the monthly route to get the vet rewards yes you do deserve some recognition like what one poster suggested call it Lifetime Gold or something and give them a stipend, say half the standard amount, more for having the stamina to continue paying for a sub long enough. Personally I do not think that they should get the the borg or the combadge
so he should get more because he sub knowing the game is free to play <<getting vet rewards along the way >> also <<500 zen for every month he was sub>>.................. when their are people that dump 100$ in this game on a daily bases.................. and borg captain is one of the top reason to get a life time sub...................
think some also forget that vet rewards are meant for ppl who subs not for life timers we just happen to get them as well some forget you didnt get vet rewards day one of becoming a lifer ya back in the day kids we had to be sub for the same amount days as a regular subscriber cryptic thought it be a cool thing to now as soon as you buy a lifetime sub now you get access to all veteran rewards day 1 of becoming a lifetime sub
When did I say I was an elitist? Hard work should be rewarded. If you ran 500 Elite STFs to finally get that final STF piece and the next day Cryptic announced that players will just need to do one STF to get each piece of equipment, then all the effort you put into the game would have been pointless. Obviously Cryptic made it require some serious effort through the Reputation system instead of keeping it excruciatingly painful for some players.
The words "hard work" and "effort" shouldn't even enter the equation. You bought your vet rewards, one month at a time. The LTS person bought them all at once. There is effectively no difference beyond the fact that yours came slower.
♪ I'm going around not in circles but in spirographs.
It's pretty much this hard to keep just one timeline intact. ♪
As you said/asked earlier in the thread because of your status as a disabled vet do you deserve more, yes you do deserve more and I salute you for serving your country. This statement is not meant to be an insult and if I have offended you please accept my most humble apology.
To rephrase one of his statements:
Why should he be rewarded or be special for making poor life decisions?
If your poor financial decisions were enough to keep this game afloat Atari wouldn't have been forced to sell the game to PWE, and PWE wouldn't have had to convert it to F2P and bring in lock boxes.
:P
All of that Atari stuff was all Cryptic's baby, we subscribers have kept the game afloat despite their business decisions long before F2P and lockboxes.
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Wow!
you forgot the most important one after 1000 days you don't go back to being a free to play player.
what it was once meant to be is one thing, things change all the time.
what can be added in the way of rewards can always change, if a company sees an opportunity to make some extra money why would they not change their policy's.
if they added this reward would it hurt you or me or any other lifetimer, no it would not, are we so elitist as to consider anyone who for one reason or another is unable to pay the full price undeserving or below us in some way, surly not.
surly someone who has paid a greater amount in subscription fees then any lifetimer should get some recognition for their contribution.
if I as a lifetime member can see this surly there is hope that others can too.
would it cost anything for cryptic to give this gift to past and future 1000 dayers no it would not all the perks are virtual anyway even the zen
I see a chance here to make some money for cryptic and perfect world, quite a lot of money actually.
if only one free to play player is tempted into subscribing if they introduced this that is money they would not have got before.
say though as few as 10% of free players were to take up the offer, that's a heck of a lot of capital coming into the company as a result.
and the more money cryptic and perfect world make the better it is for us players, it will help the game to continue longer.
as far as I can see cryptic and perfect world has nothing to loose and everything to gain.
if the worst happens and a few subscribers fall back to free to play along the way nothing has been lost but they still gained the few months of subs they might not have got before.
if they choose to implement it is entirely up to them but I happen to think its a very good idea and would please a heck of a lot of people not least the sharholders of the company.
When I think about everything we've been through together,
maybe it's not the destination that matters, maybe it's the journey,
and if that journey takes a little longer,
so we can do something we all believe in,
I can't think of any place I'd rather be or any people I'd rather be with.
They might make the EC cap increase a veteran reward which will cause some people that already bought it to get mad, but Cryptic will never give the stipend to current F2Pers.
If STO didn't have LTS, then they game would be completely F2P.
is that all you have to worry about that they might get the Borg and combadge, that's really sad.
When I think about everything we've been through together,
maybe it's not the destination that matters, maybe it's the journey,
and if that journey takes a little longer,
so we can do something we all believe in,
I can't think of any place I'd rather be or any people I'd rather be with.
I had already bought the EC cap before I went lifetime and it didn't bother me.
so if they didn't have LTS there would not be any monthly subbers, think again.
had enough of this conversation.
When I think about everything we've been through together,
maybe it's not the destination that matters, maybe it's the journey,
and if that journey takes a little longer,
so we can do something we all believe in,
I can't think of any place I'd rather be or any people I'd rather be with.
So thats 3 benefits, the 3rd one being the most important. Sure are you awarding the people who subbed 1000 days, sure. Maybe it was a stupid idea sure. But like 1 guy said, not everyone can shell out 300 dollars up front, and maybe some want to pay the sub so that the game can last longer and possibly get better, but idk because im apparently stupid.
I really honestly dont care if you guys think my decision was incredibly stupid. All im asking is for one small small thing for paying it. I dont care if its a carrier or a 10% bonus trait or a extra trait slot or even a small unique phaser pistol or a extra character slot, I would be happy for any of these.
Will this rip off LTS people, no it wont, I dont know where you guys are getting this from. I will even add a 4th benefit that lifers have, they never have to pay a sub or pay anything at all ever again and get the same benefits gold players get for free.
So thats 4 exclusive benefits.
Was staying gold stupid. It could have been possibly. But nobody knows if it was, because they dont know WHY the person paid it. So when you say its "stupid", i assume you have a reason for why every person who paid monthly did it, and i guess it has to be stupid.
Not what I'm worried about, just addressing concerns of others. I'm all for 1000 day Golds getting LTS, see post #2
I suggested it as a option, but i said in my OP that i knew people probably would not like that and it turns out to be that way. Im not asking for your borg or your combage. So im guessing your pretty torn up about that small single special weapon that I am suggesting that probably wont convince people to go gold anyway.
I also see your trying to read peoples minds, nice try, but it did not work.
But their is a huge difference between the LTS and the Hero of the North pack. The LTS main sell point was paying once for the subscription and never pay again for it. The Hero of the North is just a bunch of ingame items and perks.
STO is a Freemium model where there is a mixture of subscribers and F2Pers while Neverwinter is just F2Pers. Lifers paid for a lifetime subscription to the game so if the game went completely F2P, then their lifetime subscription would be cancelled. The only two PWE games that are Freemium are Star Trek Online and Champions Online due to them having Lifetime Subscriptions. Therefore, if Star Trek Online and Champions Online didn't have Lifetime Subscriptions, then they would be F2P just like every other PWE game.
Of course, STO could have something similar to the Hero of the North pack since they already did it with the Legacy Pack. There is a good chance that Expansion 2 will have something similar.
Gratulations OP for having the patience and reaching the 1k without resorting to the easy way; I doubt there are many subbers at that point. My guess is that most are either LTS or F2P with any random number below 400 days subbed.
And thats why there would probably no new rewards. LTS(ubscription) is all regular sub rewards going into it. Its part of the deal. With more ppl at 1k+ days having LTS than regualr subs and not paying monthly that would be something done for free.
Your option one is the only thing I can think off which could make them a bit more if they add a LTS as, for example, 1100 day reward.
I second. Good job.
Hero of the North still have their exclusive Drow race. There is a free Drow race, but the HotN drow has some exclusive tattoos and a different racial ability. It would be the same as the difference between an Alien using the 7 of 9 costume implants and the Liberated Borg race.
There is the priority login, some extra character slots, some other exclusive items, 2 million Astral Diamonds (their version of dilithium), and some bonuses for other PWE games like the Andorian Light Escort. The HotN has far more bonuses than the LTS simply due to the fact that they are for different things. Most of the value for the LTS is strictly for subscription while its other benefits are merely a bonus.
THIS!!
And without our "poor financial decision" this game wouldn't even still be afloat.
It is lockboxes that are keeping this game afloat. There are just not that many people that see the point of the LTS after the game went F2P. A lot of the Lifers that bought it pre-F2P wouldn't have bought the LTS if we started playing after the game went F2P. I would certainly have given far more thought into purchasing it than the impulse buy that it was. Seeing myself playing the game for years and it costing $240 for the subscription compared to whatever it would have been was a very good deal at the time. Right now, the main reason for purchasing the LTS no longer exists.
Who cares? Why does it matter so much?
That's one thing I've never understood about you elitists. It's like, why do you care so much about what someone else has?
It's pretty much this hard to keep just one timeline intact. ♪
Because he thought he was special, but now he is no better than a LTS. Poor Guy.
I hear that. PT Barnum would be proud.
When did I say I was an elitist? Hard work should be rewarded. If you ran 500 Elite STFs to finally get that final STF piece and the next day Cryptic announced that players will just need to do one STF to get each piece of equipment, then all the effort you put into the game would have been pointless. Obviously Cryptic made it require some serious effort through the Reputation system instead of keeping it excruciatingly painful for some players.
They have these life sales and it's like I want to do it! Just give me a real reason! But the fact is there is no reason for 1000 day plus people to go life. Free zen? Tell me how much zen you can buy at the $70 plus one spends on a 6 month sub. More than you get free;). Oh bank cap?? I fixed that first day I was free. Buying that fix at the zen store was way cheaper than the 70 plus 6 month sub.
I'm a hardcore trek guy. I love this game but Cryptic really made me dislike them with the above. Now getting rid of exploration I just don't know anymore. I still play but damn it's getting upsetting with some of the stuff they do. Thinking of taking a break after Risa. Log weekly until 10 comes out. I was not a crafter before. If I find that the gear is better than Maco or fleet maybe. If not what's the point.
Yeah, announcing that you paid 2x the rate of a LTS for only 1000 days doesn't seem like something you'd want to throw a party over.
Think about this, nothing here is much of a loss.
Forum Title: Yah like anyone really cares about these and frankly, i think the **Faction** Veteran title just looks better anyways if you care that much.
Playable Borg: Ok so look at this, whats really that special about this species? Nothing it just gets a fancy root effect every one minute. Make an alien, a romulan, or buy zen and make a caitian all would be better (aliens get the extra trait thing which is great).
Combage: I'm sorry but i must agree this is, like the vet ships, nothing to write home about. I mean if your jelous of these few small things I start to question if you have a good taste in looks. The vet ships (I got off topic) are terrible ships endgame and a combadge... well who looks and cares.
THAT BEING SAID
While i am an LTS and do understand why others complain about this kind of request (well I really don't), I think that them spending considerably more should reward them with something. So I take this event, get it for $200 vs idk what it is but lets say they spend $600... over many years... why should I be any more rewarded than them I gave Cryptic less, I didn't have to wait or really think about it, they should get something special like their own free combadge or a special place at the captains table who knows. $200 in 10 seconds is a lot smaller commitment than $300 in a little under 3 years... both sides of the argument are valid as far as im concerned.
As you said/asked earlier in the thread because of your status as a disabled vet do you deserve more, yes you do deserve more and I salute you for serving your country. This statement is not meant to be an insult and if I have offended you please accept my most humble apology.
On the topic at hand IMHO if you go the monthly route to get the vet rewards yes you do deserve some recognition like what one poster suggested call it Lifetime Gold or something and give them a stipend, say half the standard amount, more for having the stamina to continue paying for a sub long enough. Personally I do not think that they should get the the borg or the combadge
think some also forget that vet rewards are meant for ppl who subs not for life timers we just happen to get them as well some forget you didnt get vet rewards day one of becoming a lifer ya back in the day kids we had to be sub for the same amount days as a regular subscriber cryptic thought it be a cool thing to now as soon as you buy a lifetime sub now you get access to all veteran rewards day 1 of becoming a lifetime sub
system Lord Baal is dead
The words "hard work" and "effort" shouldn't even enter the equation. You bought your vet rewards, one month at a time. The LTS person bought them all at once. There is effectively no difference beyond the fact that yours came slower.
It's pretty much this hard to keep just one timeline intact. ♪
To rephrase one of his statements:
Why should he be rewarded or be special for making poor life decisions?
All of that Atari stuff was all Cryptic's baby, we subscribers have kept the game afloat despite their business decisions long before F2P and lockboxes.