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Star Trek 3' Will Be Closer to TV Series Than Ever
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According to this article...
I hope that is true. I wonder what TOS species they will encounter or if they will come up with an original alien culture for the 3rd film...The third installment of the rebooted franchise, which Orci is tipped to direct, taking over from J.J. Abrams following the latters move to Lucasfilm's Star Wars: Episode VII, will show the Enterprise crew "closer to the original series characters than you have ever seen," the Amazing Spider-Man, Transformers, Star Trek screenwriter and producer said. "They have set off on their five-year mission, so their adventure is going to be in deep space."
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I'm cautiously optimistic so far.
"Critics who say that the optimistic utopia Star Trek depicted is now outmoded forget the cultural context that gave birth to it: Star Trek was not a manifestation of optimism when optimism was easy. Star Trek declared a hope for a future that nobody stuck in the present could believe in. For all our struggles today, we haven’t outgrown the need for stories like Star Trek. We need tales of optimism, of heroes, of courage and goodness now as much as we’ve ever needed them."
-Thomas Marrone
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Ok... then after the Kazon have taken over DS9, the klingons attack the planet it's orbiting (risa) and seed targ on the planet.
This will lead a fleet of ships there, led by Admiral Pike and Captain Sisko in the defiant.
Reset the reboot. I like it.
JJ Trek Must Die! :mad:
- Judge Aaron Satie
Norway and Yeager dammit... I still want my Typhoon and Jupiter though.
JJ Trek The Kelvin Timeline is just Trek and it's fully canon... get over it. But I still prefer TAR.
#TASforSTO
'...I can tell you that we're not in the military and that we intend no harm to the whales.' Kirk: The Voyage Home
'Starfleet is not a military organisation. Its purpose is exploration.' Picard: Peak Performance
'This is clearly a military operation. Is that what we are now? Because I thought we were explorers!' Scotty: Into Darkness
'...The Federation. Starfleet. We're not a military agency.' Scotty: Beyond
'I'm not a soldier anymore. I'm an engineer.' Miles O'Brien: Empok Nor
'...Starfleet could use you... It's a peacekeeping and humanitarian armada...' Admiral Pike: Star Trek
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The Transformers fanbase is even worse.
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They can leach off of the TOS series so they wont need any good writers just copy and past the origional shows like they did the last movie
They will have transporters that can reach 90 light years...good way to get crew replacements from earth...just beam cadets strait from starfleet academy save lots of time
They can travel 90 light years in 2 minutes ( Warp 200 ? ) so exploration will be realy fast...and if there is trouble in the federation they can get home in a few minutes...even if there 400 or 1000 light years away
starfleet has that huge battleship thats bigger than a Excelsior which hasnt been invented yet..... so they will replace the enterprise pretty quick
going to be interesting for sure...I cant wait
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I know right, it would be like the Warp 14 engines from TOS, the ones that can travel from Sol to the galactic barrier, right into the centre of the galaxy to meet god.
Why bother building any other ships if a constitution can reach the edge of the galaxy right.
Stupid Janeway, why did she not just strap a pair of constitution nacelles onto Voyager again?????
Norway and Yeager dammit... I still want my Typhoon and Jupiter though.
JJ Trek The Kelvin Timeline is just Trek and it's fully canon... get over it. But I still prefer TAR.
#TASforSTO
'...I can tell you that we're not in the military and that we intend no harm to the whales.' Kirk: The Voyage Home
'Starfleet is not a military organisation. Its purpose is exploration.' Picard: Peak Performance
'This is clearly a military operation. Is that what we are now? Because I thought we were explorers!' Scotty: Into Darkness
'...The Federation. Starfleet. We're not a military agency.' Scotty: Beyond
'I'm not a soldier anymore. I'm an engineer.' Miles O'Brien: Empok Nor
'...Starfleet could use you... It's a peacekeeping and humanitarian armada...' Admiral Pike: Star Trek
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Do you mean the USS Vengeance? I think that was classified as a dreadnought. At least it was called a Dreadnought class, which sounds a bit off, as it was supposedly the first in the line, and Star Fleet names a class after the first ship in that grouping. So there should be a USS Dreadnought floating around somewhere.
You do make good points though. You might add keeping pints of cloned "miracle blood" on hand so that few, if any, crew dies.
I know!! had Voyager, and crew known that, they would not have to use Magic Borg blood to save Neelix... Stupid JJ Writers making stupid things up after Voyager writers already made good writing decisions.
Which is kind of ridiculous, when you think about it, as there isn't a ship type called a 'Dreadnought'. The 'Dreadnought' was the name given to Battleships designed similarly to the HMS Dreadnought, which was so revolutionary that all battleships built prior to it were dubbed 'Pre-Dreadnought'. But, they were still Battleships. Therefore, the Vengeance should be a Vengeance-Class Battleship, or Dreadnought-Class Battleship.
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The transporters: in TNG it was used to cure Dr. Pulaski of an aging virus, and bring Picard back from being scattered across space. From TNG on they should be able to cure everything , and bring back anyone to life, yet we still got episodes where the Enterprise needed to rush for a cure, and many many helmsmen died off.
It ends with the crew talking about the fact that they're being sent on a five-year-long exploratory mission, as Starfleet becomes less militarized. It's not exactly subtext.
Also, the beaming thing is handled - when Section 31 learned of Scotty's development, they took all his research notes and work on it away from him, built one prototype, and lost that when Khan was shot down during the attack on Starfleet Headquarters near the beginning. The only part that's left to the imagination is that Marcus probably took all the S31 files about it with him on the Vengeance, so they would have been destroyed when it crashed. Boom, no more magic transporter. They also lost Khan's magic blood in the same incident. (What makes you think that just any old Augment's blood will suffice? That was never stated in the movie.)
I just hope that there'll be someone involved in the production who can tell Orci "no". It's been demonstrated in every single incarnation of Trek that if nobody tells the guy in charge that something's a bad idea, it turns to TRIBBLE. (I'm also hoping that Orci isn't involved in writing it, because I have come to the conclusion that Robert Orci is not a very good writer.)
Oh. Wait. JJVerse. The only thing that matters is PLOT. Reason, logic, and canon be damned. :P Two points:
--Season 1 of TNG. SG-1's Ori arc* and that godforsaken episode in season 1 with the misogynist idiots. The ENT temporal cold war arc. Voyager in general. "Spock's Brain". Star Wars prequel trilogy. Not having someone to say "no, that's moronic" makes ANY SF franchise bad.
--Robert Orci is not so much not a very good writer as he is a complete imbecile.
I'd rather have whatever idiot wrote "Threshold" doing the writing than Orci.
*I must note that the ACTING of the principal folks of that arc (Morena Baccarin, Claudia Black, Ben Browder, Christopher Judge, and of course Cliff Simon) was terrific. It's just that the plot of the story arc was to SF TV plots as a bargain-basement "Picasso" painted by a seizure-ridden chimp is to art.
The same Section 31 that walked into one of the oldest traps in the book by sending Sloan to Julian Bashir to look for the cure to the morphogenic virus that didn't exist?
Or the same Section 31 that lets Luther Sloan simultaneously portray an Admiral that doesn't exist, a Cartographer, and an ominous guy without insignia wearing all black that just kind of comes and goes where he pleases in a secure military base setting?
Can't exactly support the speculation that Section 31 isn't stupid enough to put all their eggs in one basket -- or painting the basket an ominous black color that sticks out like a sore thumb...
... or re-using the same basket over and over again once people already know nothing good is going to come from that basket.
I did say JJVerse.
But Section 31 is like Whack-A-Mole. They just keep coming back. I find it completely unrealistic that they didn't kidnap and sedate Khan, then use him as a magic-blood-production machine. Same with the super-transporter. SOMEbody must've kept the files somewhere nice and secure. Maybe even made another couple of prototypes...
And kidnapping Khan again would be kind of difficult, after Kirk and company got done with him. Particularly considering that after Marcus' fiasco, the Section was in total disarray, if not completely gone. And they wouldn't have set up "a magic-blood-producing machine", because they had no idea he even had magic blood - that only happened because McCoy randomly injected a blood sample into a tribble. Khan knew he had magic blood, of course, but why on earth would he share this data with the folks who were holding everyone he knew and loved hostage? I doubt that I would cooperate any further than absolutely necessary under those circumstances, and if nobody asked me about any strange properties my blood might have, I certainly wouldn't volunteer the information...
Usually when the cover of such an unethical operation is blown completely and fully, it is dismantled and destroyed in its entirety to cover the afts of the people involved.
While I have no doubt Admiral Marcus and Khan weren't the only people involved -- the investigation would have resulted in co-conspirators burning their files and projects before the investigation hit them (which could have been at any moment).
When J. Edgar Hoover died, Helen Gandy spent a good week destroying most of his files before the new FBI Director was able to secure them (since Nixon wanted access to them).
Keeping projects such as Khan's magic blood, transwarp beaming device, or secret archives hidden only would invite the hammer to be brought down harder if they were discovered.
Sure, they're idiots, but they're like a bad cold, or HIV; they're always popping back up when you think you've beaten them.
Look, it's just lazy writing to have Kirk et al toss Khan back into cryostorage and pretend that the magic transporters didn't happen. ESPECIALLY when they assume that nobody's going to question how Kirk took that much radiation and lived, or how Khan convinced that guy to blow himself up.
My central point is that JJTrek is lazily-written hash with more holes than a Dutch dam made of Swiss cheese to begin with. And nothing can change that now.
They dont need Kahn for the blood
They have 72 just like him on ice
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JJ-Verse will never be Canon or considered Lore...It will always be JJ-Verse
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"Critics who say that the optimistic utopia Star Trek depicted is now outmoded forget the cultural context that gave birth to it: Star Trek was not a manifestation of optimism when optimism was easy. Star Trek declared a hope for a future that nobody stuck in the present could believe in. For all our struggles today, we haven’t outgrown the need for stories like Star Trek. We need tales of optimism, of heroes, of courage and goodness now as much as we’ve ever needed them."
-Thomas Marrone
Facts hurt huh
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JJ-Verse will never be Canon or considered Lore...It will always be JJ-Verse
1) Time travel forward, meet the Enterprise D, and Kirk gets a schooling by Picard.
2) Kirk finally dies for good, and that's the end of that.
Hopeful Enterprise crew coming back from a peaceful mission of exploration and coming back to find a Federation at war with Klingons and Romulans (also at war with each other), with Starfleet even more militarised than in ID, having to stop the war.
That way you get all the cool lasers and war stuff, and a Trek like diplomacy plot, everyone's happy.
Norway and Yeager dammit... I still want my Typhoon and Jupiter though.
JJ Trek The Kelvin Timeline is just Trek and it's fully canon... get over it. But I still prefer TAR.
#TASforSTO
'...I can tell you that we're not in the military and that we intend no harm to the whales.' Kirk: The Voyage Home
'Starfleet is not a military organisation. Its purpose is exploration.' Picard: Peak Performance
'This is clearly a military operation. Is that what we are now? Because I thought we were explorers!' Scotty: Into Darkness
'...The Federation. Starfleet. We're not a military agency.' Scotty: Beyond
'I'm not a soldier anymore. I'm an engineer.' Miles O'Brien: Empok Nor
'...Starfleet could use you... It's a peacekeeping and humanitarian armada...' Admiral Pike: Star Trek
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