Do I need to worry yet about the new gun being a "new Lunge" one-shotting players through shields if it has enough buffs? I haven't seen stats for the new gun (are they even available? Tribble isn't showing stats for to-be crafted things) but "ShieldPenx4" seems a little concerning.
Considering the following rough/average values and speculation about the new gun:
**Fully Buffed** Kinetic Damage from New Gun: 1000 **speculation**
Shield Pen from New Gun: 50% **speculation**
Enemy's Shields: 400 (not affected by resistance)
Enemy's HP: 600
Enemy's Kinetic Resistance from Armor: 40%
That 1K shot will cause 360 damage to the enemy's armor.
Under above conditions the total kinetic damage needs to be 1.4K to deal 600 HP damage and potentially kill a player in one hit through full shields and health. (If my math is correct.)
Edit: Yes, because it's kinetic, Borg do not adapt to it. We may add Kinetic to their adaptation though, that seems like a kind of thing they'd be able to do.
The borg adapt to energy attacks. Kinetic energy is movement based. A punch or kick has kinetic energy. If I hit a borg, does it not bleed?
I remain empathetic to the concerns of my community, but do me a favor and lay off the god damn name calling and petty remarks. It will get you nowhere.
I must admit, respect points to Trendy for laying down the law like that.
There to stiff for those types of theatrics. Besides I think those trying to wrong the borg will find the experience quite unavailing. In the end revenge is futile... sort of like hoping for an advance in Cryptics general level of competency.
It does require line of sight. That's the tradeoff for the updated high-damage dealing, shield-penetrating, kinetic damage. It's generally pretty exploitative gameplay to shoot things through walls, and the original probably never should have been able to do that.
Edit: Yes, because it's kinetic, Borg do not adapt to it. We may add Kinetic to their adaptation though, that seems like a kind of thing they'd be able to do.
ROFL...
I guess this is a perfect example of where to re-educate devs on where people have such disgruntled feelings. Not sure what your level of Star Trek canon is but there is this little issue on your statement that would out right call this weapon a gimmick and pretty much pointless. The whole backstory behind that rifle is that you could use it to shoot thru walls which it technically didn't shoot thru walls it had a micro transporter in the weapon itself. Which instead of turning it into a gimmick the reason the weapon itself wasn't just mass produced for starfleet sniper schooling was that first off they were an organization of peace and exploration but the second is that pretty much sensor jamming/transporter jamming tech as well as a delay from the transporting and add a little dodge mechanic to the person on the other end and then its a balanced canon weapon. I can understand balance but at the same time just calling something exploitative just because its doing what it is modeled after in canon just doesn't make it so.
Again no disrespect intended just trying to establish a point of how and why something might be done when it is the entire purpose of said canon element. Maybe taking this into account with ships that come out as well that they might not come off as gimmicks so much when designing them imo. As well taking away the element of what it should have is just as bad as paying your customers to go play some other companies game imo as well.
Its a Television show... and they can't make it just like in the TV show for everything. Or the enterprise would just fly around one shoting everyone.
Also not that I intended to get into a canon debate. The TR rifle was designed by Star Fleet to operate when standard weaponry was an issue. As in Hazard areas, dampening fields ect.
Having said that...The episode it is featured in (DS9 Field of Fire) the transporter bit was ILLEGALLY added, to commit murders. The actual Star Fleet TR-116 does NOT have the ability to shoot though anything.
The idea that they are anti borg weapons comes from a DS9 Book, Mission Gamma I believe.
It may have been mentioned in one or two other books.
However point is its canon. The TR-116 is NOT a shoot though walls weapon. That was an illegal mod added by a nut job in one episode. It is also NOT an anti borg weapon... it is simply mentioned in one of the books as being effective vs borg.
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Considering the following rough/average values and speculation about the new gun:
**Fully Buffed** Kinetic Damage from New Gun: 1000 **speculation**
Shield Pen from New Gun: 50% **speculation**
Enemy's Shields: 400 (not affected by resistance)
Enemy's HP: 600
Enemy's Kinetic Resistance from Armor: 40%
That 1K shot will cause 360 damage to the enemy's armor.
Under above conditions the total kinetic damage needs to be 1.4K to deal 600 HP damage and potentially kill a player in one hit through full shields and health. (If my math is correct.)
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The borg adapt to energy attacks. Kinetic energy is movement based. A punch or kick has kinetic energy. If I hit a borg, does it not bleed?
If you wrong the Borg, shall it not revenge?
There to stiff for those types of theatrics. Besides I think those trying to wrong the borg will find the experience quite unavailing. In the end revenge is futile... sort of like hoping for an advance in Cryptics general level of competency.
ROFL...
I guess this is a perfect example of where to re-educate devs on where people have such disgruntled feelings. Not sure what your level of Star Trek canon is but there is this little issue on your statement that would out right call this weapon a gimmick and pretty much pointless. The whole backstory behind that rifle is that you could use it to shoot thru walls which it technically didn't shoot thru walls it had a micro transporter in the weapon itself. Which instead of turning it into a gimmick the reason the weapon itself wasn't just mass produced for starfleet sniper schooling was that first off they were an organization of peace and exploration but the second is that pretty much sensor jamming/transporter jamming tech as well as a delay from the transporting and add a little dodge mechanic to the person on the other end and then its a balanced canon weapon. I can understand balance but at the same time just calling something exploitative just because its doing what it is modeled after in canon just doesn't make it so.
Again no disrespect intended just trying to establish a point of how and why something might be done when it is the entire purpose of said canon element. Maybe taking this into account with ships that come out as well that they might not come off as gimmicks so much when designing them imo. As well taking away the element of what it should have is just as bad as paying your customers to go play some other companies game imo as well.
Canon...it's not real. It's fiction. It's subject to the writers' whims and what was needed to move the story along.
Also not that I intended to get into a canon debate. The TR rifle was designed by Star Fleet to operate when standard weaponry was an issue. As in Hazard areas, dampening fields ect.
Having said that...The episode it is featured in (DS9 Field of Fire) the transporter bit was ILLEGALLY added, to commit murders. The actual Star Fleet TR-116 does NOT have the ability to shoot though anything.
The idea that they are anti borg weapons comes from a DS9 Book, Mission Gamma I believe.
It may have been mentioned in one or two other books.
However point is its canon. The TR-116 is NOT a shoot though walls weapon. That was an illegal mod added by a nut job in one episode. It is also NOT an anti borg weapon... it is simply mentioned in one of the books as being effective vs borg.