After not really paying attention for 2-3 months, I had a look at the tribble patch notes to see what their latest big thing was.
Crafting, not only crafting, but the wishy washy - what's the point? type feature that's thoroughly undermined by and bound by the same crummy rep-system with layers of RNG that you start to wonder whether they forgot the whole reason for the rep-store in the first place.
I pop over to the general forums to see no one is really happy.
Then I wonder what would have happened if a similar level of resources was focused on PvP....
hahaha...
Maybe we dodged a bullet...
...Well yes, metaphorically speaking, I'm well aware that you can't actually kill a rotting corpse.
I remain empathetic to the concerns of my community, but do me a favor and lay off the god damn name calling and petty remarks. It will get you nowhere.
I must admit, respect points to Trendy for laying down the law like that.
it and the doff system are in alpha right now, i wouldn't be surprised if the RNG all but disappears after all the feedback they will get for the next wile from people that care about this stuff.
it and the doff system are in alpha right now, i wouldn't be surprised if the RNG all but disappears after all the feedback they will get for the next wile from people that care about this stuff.
They have time if there shooting for end of July. They can still make changes and make the system not horrible.
Lets just hope they figured they would throw out the worst numbers they could imagine first to see how it would fly. Sort of like when you start a negotiation and quote triple the price to see how much profit you can really make. lol
My advice, Don't listen to forumite doom sayers, Get on tribble, decide for yourself
I've lost count of the number of posts containing misinformation on the revamp
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My advice, Don't listen to forumite doom sayers, Get on tribble, decide for yourself
I've lost count of the number of posts containing misinformation on the revamp
oh the last thing you want to do is go on tribble and look at it as it is NOW lol. its a bit horrifying curently, if it was near final doom would be right
oh the last thing you want to do is go on tribble and look at it as it is NOW lol. its a bit horrifying curently, if it was near final doom would be right
Still better than relying on often faulty second hand information
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...Well yes, metaphorically speaking, I'm well aware that you can't actually kill a rotting corpse.
dunno on that one crafting was dead most seem to consider the new system completely dead they killed something that was already dead..that takes skill :cool:
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I've lost count of the number of posts containing misinformation on the revamp
It's kind of a trip, a bad trip, how much of that was going on - much of it looking pretty purposeful and happening after a certain thread got shutdown.
PvC.. Player Vs Crafting.. And unless they impliment a way to convert large stacks of materials to the new system quickly.. macros WILL be required. :P
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dunno on that one crafting was dead most seem to consider the new system completely dead they killed something that was already dead..that takes skill :cool:
Remember, before embassy came out crafting gave you endgame kits, and before kit revamp crafting gave 2nd best kits, now crafting truly is dead. They managed to make something unimaginably useless even more useless
It was one of the things mentioned in the podcast for crafting. There are going to be special procs only available on crafting items. One that was mentioned was a proc that would make a beam hit into a BO beam hit. There were no details about it - it was just mentioned ever so briefly as an example.
It came up in one thread where we speculated madly about it, though - lol. Tidbits of info like that can be dangerous! :P
Hopefully we see the stuff and can test it while it is on Tribble, eh?
It was one of the things mentioned in the podcast for crafting. There are going to be special procs only available on crafting items. One that was mentioned was a proc that would make a beam hit into a BO beam hit. There were no details about it - it was just mentioned ever so briefly as an example.
It came up in one thread where we speculated madly about it, though - lol. Tidbits of info like that can be dangerous! :P
Hopefully we see the stuff and can test it while it is on Tribble, eh?
Typical Cryptic idea though... nothing better then that 1 in 100 hit that ends people. STO is one of the worst MMOs for the WTF was that junk.
Also , Craftable 360 degree arc Beams ( you can only slot one at a time) so if you like the Omi direction but would prefer say, a Polaron Variety, there you go, craft one
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saw some [arc] DHC, only 1 again. and some wired plasma torp and RCS console. this only 1 equipped at once TRIBBLE, will make crafting SUPER easy to ignore entirely.
saw some [arc] DHC, only 1 again. and some wired plasma torp and RCS console. this only 1 equipped at once TRIBBLE, will make crafting SUPER easy to ignore entirely.
Ignore it then, thats your prerogative to do so
I personally have an interest in in crafting these more niche weapons, more of which continue to be announced as time goes by
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So you can craft 5 more to go with the AP one...allowing you to run 6x 360 Arrays.
Dude, that's rainbow nonsense!
No, right now, you can only equip one of ANY of them. So you can use one - of whatever shade of rainbow you prefer - but you can't have a 360 degree beamboat. That'd be over the top.
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Hey Hawk, will the TR-116B's alternate sniper attack be similar to the old TR-116A's? By that I mean, will it not require Line of Sight to hit enemies? And it will be immune against Borg, correct?
No, right now, you can only equip one of ANY of them. So you can use one - of whatever shade of rainbow you prefer - but you can't have a 360 degree beamboat. That'd be over the top.
Awwwwww....totally misread that then. That's no fun! You suck! I'm going to tell everybody! :P
Heh, well then - I did totally misread that then...and...I'm glad you clarified it. Seriously, I am - cause looking at some of the stuff and wondering...
There's the RCS with weapon mods - which, perhaps somewhere down the line we might actually get to select them at additional cost (just based on the "future" possibilities stuff mentioned by Gekp in reference to other items - he in no way specifically said we would be able to do that with this specific gear, etc, etc, etc)...so we might [CrtH]x2 a RCS...might end up with Neuts and Monos too, right? CrtH or CrtD them up. Same for that Sci console, eh? Might be others along those lines?
Hard to believe it wasn't all that long ago that it was [CrtH] on weapons, Weapon Specialization, and the Borg module...and that was that.
Hrmm, sorry - I can't ramble in my normal way - I keep going back to just how poorly I misread that. And it was an obvious misread on my part - you were very clear. It was completely mea culpa, and I hate being the source of any bad info like that.
To be honest though... building a ship of 360 degree weapons would be dumb.
Thanks to faw and beam array arcs we already have 360 degree boats... why sacrifice an actual useful mod when... doing the disco ball is already the standards PvE mode of play.
To be honest though... building a ship of 360 degree weapons would be dumb.
Thanks to faw and beam array arcs we already have 360 degree boats... why sacrifice an actual useful mod when... doing the disco ball is already the standards PvE mode of play.
But haven't they been working on nuking the arc play? As in weapons that no longer continue to fire when out of arc? Heh, thought you were the one that brought that up with the problems I was having with my Torp Spreads dropping out fewer than anticipated torps because I was cutting the arcs and it had started to matter at some point.
Thus folks trying to dance arcs with FAW wouldn't be able to do so - they wouldn't have the fake overlap and would be limited to the actual 70 degree overlap.
But haven't they been working on nuking the arc play? As in weapons that no longer continue to fire when out of arc? Heh, thought you were the one that brought that up with the problems I was having with my Torp Spreads dropping out fewer than anticipated torps because I was cutting the arcs and it had started to matter at some point.
Thus folks trying to dance arcs with FAW wouldn't be able to do so - they wouldn't have the fake overlap and would be limited to the actual 70 degree overlap.
All they have to do is keep people broad side... hardly a hard thing to do.
To be honest the arch shutting off junk is totally exploitable (not that kind of exploit) by escorts anyway. Throw arrays on back instead of silly turrets... DBB in front and when you rock the arc plain all your weapon power comes back instantly and you can use it to time overloads ect.
IMO the change doesn't really hurt the silly beaming faw cruisers... and makes escorts with beams far more deadly as power return instantly and a weapon ready to go by doing a quick wiggle is OP.
All they have to do is keep people broad side... hardly a hard thing to do.
To be honest the arch shutting off junk is totally exploitable (not that kind of exploit) by escorts anyway. Throw arrays on back instead of silly turrets... DBB in front and when you rock the arc plain all your weapon power comes back instantly and you can use it to time overloads ect.
IMO the change doesn't really hurt the silly beaming faw cruisers... and makes escorts with beams far more deadly as power return instantly and a weapon ready to go by doing a quick wiggle is OP.
Hrmm, I probably haven't noticed it of late...I know I've grumbled about wiggling in the past, but my beamscort is mainly just a case of supporting my laziness. I fly around going wheeee.
No, right now, you can only equip one of ANY of them. So you can use one - of whatever shade of rainbow you prefer - but you can't have a 360 degree beamboat. That'd be over the top.
Have you given any thought to 360-degree beam turrets as a standard weapon type? By this, I mean a weapon that works like a turret except it has a different animation and works with beam abilities and consoles. The main purpose would be to allow people to equip DBBs in the front and beam turrets in the rear.
No, right now, you can only equip one of ANY of them. So you can use one - of whatever shade of rainbow you prefer - but you can't have a 360 degree beamboat. That'd be over the top.
they have the DPS of turrets, the last thing id describe an 8 omni beam boat as is over the top.
id ask for heavy single cannons being a craftable thing too, but you guys would probably ruin that by making them equip 1 only as well.
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They have time if there shooting for end of July. They can still make changes and make the system not horrible.
Lets just hope they figured they would throw out the worst numbers they could imagine first to see how it would fly. Sort of like when you start a negotiation and quote triple the price to see how much profit you can really make. lol
I've lost count of the number of posts containing misinformation on the revamp
oh the last thing you want to do is go on tribble and look at it as it is NOW lol. its a bit horrifying curently, if it was near final doom would be right
Still better than relying on often faulty second hand information
dunno on that one crafting was dead most seem to consider the new system completely dead they killed something that was already dead..that takes skill :cool:
It's kind of a trip, a bad trip, how much of that was going on - much of it looking pretty purposeful and happening after a certain thread got shutdown.
PvC.. Player Vs Crafting.. And unless they impliment a way to convert large stacks of materials to the new system quickly.. macros WILL be required. :P
Think about this:
American Football has been in open beta for 144 years. ~Kotaku
Remember, before embassy came out crafting gave you endgame kits, and before kit revamp crafting gave 2nd best kits, now crafting truly is dead. They managed to make something unimaginably useless even more useless
So uh...somebody doing FAW with arrays that can proc a BO hit is worthless?
There's going to be all sorts of nifty things to complain about!
....... wut?
It was one of the things mentioned in the podcast for crafting. There are going to be special procs only available on crafting items. One that was mentioned was a proc that would make a beam hit into a BO beam hit. There were no details about it - it was just mentioned ever so briefly as an example.
It came up in one thread where we speculated madly about it, though - lol. Tidbits of info like that can be dangerous! :P
Hopefully we see the stuff and can test it while it is on Tribble, eh?
Typical Cryptic idea though... nothing better then that 1 in 100 hit that ends people. STO is one of the worst MMOs for the WTF was that junk.
Ignore it then, thats your prerogative to do so
I personally have an interest in in crafting these more niche weapons, more of which continue to be announced as time goes by
Keeping this though...cause that's just cool, right?
"And oh man...Plasma Poo Torps?"
No, right now, you can only equip one of ANY of them. So you can use one - of whatever shade of rainbow you prefer - but you can't have a 360 degree beamboat. That'd be over the top.
Systems Designer - Cryptic Studios
Twitter: @JeffAHamilton
Awwwwww....totally misread that then. That's no fun! You suck! I'm going to tell everybody! :P
Heh, well then - I did totally misread that then...and...I'm glad you clarified it. Seriously, I am - cause looking at some of the stuff and wondering...
There's the RCS with weapon mods - which, perhaps somewhere down the line we might actually get to select them at additional cost (just based on the "future" possibilities stuff mentioned by Gekp in reference to other items - he in no way specifically said we would be able to do that with this specific gear, etc, etc, etc)...so we might [CrtH]x2 a RCS...might end up with Neuts and Monos too, right? CrtH or CrtD them up. Same for that Sci console, eh? Might be others along those lines?
Hard to believe it wasn't all that long ago that it was [CrtH] on weapons, Weapon Specialization, and the Borg module...and that was that.
Hrmm, sorry - I can't ramble in my normal way - I keep going back to just how poorly I misread that. And it was an obvious misread on my part - you were very clear. It was completely mea culpa, and I hate being the source of any bad info like that.
"any" instead of "each"...totally mea culpa.
Thanks, Hawk.
Thanks to faw and beam array arcs we already have 360 degree boats... why sacrifice an actual useful mod when... doing the disco ball is already the standards PvE mode of play.
But haven't they been working on nuking the arc play? As in weapons that no longer continue to fire when out of arc? Heh, thought you were the one that brought that up with the problems I was having with my Torp Spreads dropping out fewer than anticipated torps because I was cutting the arcs and it had started to matter at some point.
Thus folks trying to dance arcs with FAW wouldn't be able to do so - they wouldn't have the fake overlap and would be limited to the actual 70 degree overlap.
All they have to do is keep people broad side... hardly a hard thing to do.
To be honest the arch shutting off junk is totally exploitable (not that kind of exploit) by escorts anyway. Throw arrays on back instead of silly turrets... DBB in front and when you rock the arc plain all your weapon power comes back instantly and you can use it to time overloads ect.
IMO the change doesn't really hurt the silly beaming faw cruisers... and makes escorts with beams far more deadly as power return instantly and a weapon ready to go by doing a quick wiggle is OP.
EDIT: oh and my dsd will like a polaron one too
Looks like some neat stuff coming out
Hrmm, I probably haven't noticed it of late...I know I've grumbled about wiggling in the past, but my beamscort is mainly just a case of supporting my laziness. I fly around going wheeee.
Have you given any thought to 360-degree beam turrets as a standard weapon type? By this, I mean a weapon that works like a turret except it has a different animation and works with beam abilities and consoles. The main purpose would be to allow people to equip DBBs in the front and beam turrets in the rear.
they have the DPS of turrets, the last thing id describe an 8 omni beam boat as is over the top.
id ask for heavy single cannons being a craftable thing too, but you guys would probably ruin that by making them equip 1 only as well.