if the klingons wont put aside their differences with the iconian threat, then really they may as well go hide under the bed. there is great honor by accepting new allies and facing ones own fear.
such a grandiose idea xD. canonically the klingons do join the feds, but for the moment thats a delusion.
On a personal note I totally agree , Just saying that the Klingon Empire is not so Universally enlightened as to accept anyone other than a Klingon as an Equal
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Allowing that would move the Klingon Empire into something like the Federation because Klingons are a feudal society to begin with.
The Gorn arent part of the Klingon Empire because they want to, STO made some kind of weird melting pot that come at the risk of turning the Klingons as some kind of Federation and we have one of those already, we dont need another.
what happens if and when the iconians are dealt with and all thats left is to absorb the empire into the federation as a part of the sto universe? so really it wouldnt make any difference now or later from the design point of view.
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Depending on you look at it, it would either make a lot of sense for the Gorn to have some sort of seat on the High Council (the Klingon Empire as a feudal federation view), or have no standing at all (the Klingon tradition trumps everything perspective).
Under the first perspective the structure of the middle Holy Roman Empire (pre-Hapsburg hegemony) is very enlightening. Under this view it is likely that the Klingon Empire would have two administrative levels: the 'Klingon' Empire and the overall Empire including formerly sovereign state. The HRE (as well as the Ottomans) had smaller semi-autonomous states whose ultimate goals were to become powerful enough to claim a seat as an Elector for Emperor (in this example analogous to the Chancellor). The Gorn Hegemony and the Orion Syndicate appear to be the only non-Great House political forces with enough clout to want a seat and ask for one.
Their qualifications for a seat on the Council depend somewhat on what one believes are the most relevant examples of Great House politics. It is telling that K'Eleyr was offered a seat on the Council as a bribe toward her cooperation though it is never implied that she was from a Great House while the Duras sisters were excluded from control of the Duras seat (which already existed). This might imply that the Chancellor has at least some control over the seats of the Council.
On the other hand the politics of the Klingon Empire are very much Klingon centered in general. On a related note the Council may not include all eligible Great Houses as Gowron is definitely at a level where he is eligible to become Chancellor through conventional means.
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On a personal note I totally agree , Just saying that the Klingon Empire is not so Universally enlightened as to accept anyone other than a Klingon as an Equal
what happens if and when the iconians are dealt with and all thats left is to absorb the empire into the federation as a part of the sto universe? so really it wouldnt make any difference now or later from the design point of view.
"the right person in the wrong place can make all the difference in the world." - g man
make of the quote as you will.
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Under the first perspective the structure of the middle Holy Roman Empire (pre-Hapsburg hegemony) is very enlightening. Under this view it is likely that the Klingon Empire would have two administrative levels: the 'Klingon' Empire and the overall Empire including formerly sovereign state. The HRE (as well as the Ottomans) had smaller semi-autonomous states whose ultimate goals were to become powerful enough to claim a seat as an Elector for Emperor (in this example analogous to the Chancellor). The Gorn Hegemony and the Orion Syndicate appear to be the only non-Great House political forces with enough clout to want a seat and ask for one.
Their qualifications for a seat on the Council depend somewhat on what one believes are the most relevant examples of Great House politics. It is telling that K'Eleyr was offered a seat on the Council as a bribe toward her cooperation though it is never implied that she was from a Great House while the Duras sisters were excluded from control of the Duras seat (which already existed). This might imply that the Chancellor has at least some control over the seats of the Council.
On the other hand the politics of the Klingon Empire are very much Klingon centered in general. On a related note the Council may not include all eligible Great Houses as Gowron is definitely at a level where he is eligible to become Chancellor through conventional means.