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Ambassador S'taass for the Klingon high council
nickcastleton
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Surface Tension has the entire Klingon high council killed by the Iconian which means we require new members of the high council.
since the Gorn have been pushing for a seat coupled with their involvement in so many critical battles and important events i believe they have earned the respect of our fellow warriors, they have been such a crucial voice in the empire they have earned a seat and i think S'taass has earned the honor.
since the Gorn have been pushing for a seat coupled with their involvement in so many critical battles and important events i believe they have earned the respect of our fellow warriors, they have been such a crucial voice in the empire they have earned a seat and i think S'taass has earned the honor.
"It appears we have lost our sex appeal, captain."- Tuvok
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I assume you will be able to actually name some of these "critical battles and important events"?
I'll save you the time: There aren't any. Starfleet easily beat back the Gorn when they made a grab for Cestus in 2405, and their only appearances in any storyline has them as random nasties getting slaughtered by the various player characters.
In other news, King Slathis already holds a nonvoting seat on the high council, and S'taass is a closet Gorn nationalist who, when he's not acting in an official capacity, wants the Hegemony to be an independent nation again.
So, not happening six ways from Sunday. NEXT!
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king slathis's seat how ever should be change to voting when it directly effect the gorn, the chancellor says so, it's need to break a tie.
when whether or not he gets a vote is in question the chancellor or a duel decides.
if I stop posting it doesn't make you right it. just means I don't have enough rum to continue interacting with you.
The answer is (or should be) no.
This is not the European Union or the nice federation where race doesn't matter. He is not Klingon, him becoming part of the council should not be a matter of discussion outside bad jokes...
J'mpok, head of said council, lived. Not quite a complete wipe.
Wouldn't Melani get a representative first? I mean, the Orions joined the KDF of their own free will, while the Gorn were subjugated into their position. As others have so eloquently put it, the Empire is not a clone Federation with racial politics, etc. Gorn got to keep their king, he's able to talk to the Council, even though he don't have the ability to vote with them. I'd love to see how the 6 person council will handle matters of honor when you have Melani's person, S'tass, Lethian boy, and a Nausicaan pirate trying to make the call...
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What I can see happening though is Ja'rod since Duras lost their representative as well as everyone else.
I can see Ja'rod, Drex probably since the house of Martok is still around.
King slathis and Melani probably sit better as speaking but not voting advisors than actually on the council.
Sadly I have little clue as to who the other four houses are. . .
I wonder if they will ever let the captains officially join great or lesser houses?
Originally Posted by pwlaughingtrendy
Network engineers are not ship designers.
Nor should they be. Their ships would look weird.
Well, the feeling I always got from the main story is that your character from helping the House of Martok was at least kind of an 'ally' to them, and if we ever join a house, it'd probably be them.
J'empok (Chancellor)
Cha'lak (killed by Iconian)
K'lek (killed by Iconian)
Kriton (killed by Iconian)
S'kopa (killed by Iconian)
Terrath (killed by Iconian)
Woldan (killed by Iconian)
King Slathis (non voting)
As for Ja'rod he is a valid candidate for a seat on the high council, he is the head of house Duras and he has allied his house with J'empok giving him considerable political power.
Originally Posted by pwlaughingtrendy
Network engineers are not ship designers.
Nor should they be. Their ships would look weird.
Funny thing about Ja'rod, he personally doesn't feel he deserves a seat just yet. They tried to offer him one in the backstory and he declined.
And unfortunately the only things he's done since the Gorn-Klingon War is help defend New Romulus a couple times, get his TRIBBLE kicked by the Federation PC half a dozen times, and nearly get himself assimilated. Not exactly heroic.
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i know women are forbidden to serve on the high council but maybe its past time they also ended that so someone like Koren could serve (i suppose she doesn't qualify as she isn't the house leader but just using her as a point)
"It appears we have lost our sex appeal, captain."- Tuvok
Huh? ST VI - Undiscovered Country, Azetbur (Daughter of then-Chancellor) took over cause Dad was killed by Fed idiots...
Women can hold a seat, however, it's quite rare due to the backstabbing politics...
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ah u right my bad they generally could not serve on the Council, though there were exceptions.
"It appears we have lost our sex appeal, captain."- Tuvok
Or it is entirely possible that Azetbur was a political force to be reckoned with on her own.
Also, Grilka was permitted to serve as head of her house due to some.....unusual circumstances. Granted, that could make the case if favor of Lursa and B'tor, but neither of the were either the daughter nor the wife of the sitting "daimyo" of the House of Duras.
What's my position?
That people should know what they're screaming about!
(paraphrased from "The Newsroom)
One would think that, perhaps, there was that "period of enlightenment" where women served on the high council...
And while the classic "Hug and dagger" trick would work to get them into office, hanging on to said office once the first honor-bound-to-accept challenge came around...
Koren, though, is starting to seem to be an officer that could get on the council, and keep it...
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s'tass can make a claim for the council seat if he wants, but he has to beat other warriors to the seat first who also want that seat. due to j'mpoks politics i doubt worf would sit on the council as the honor maid to house martok as well as house rivalries with said leader of the empire.
ja'rod could make an appearance to try get a council position, he better then anyone isnt clouded over by the illusions put in front of him and his house has been redeemed recently as well, staying out of trouble, but knowing honor where it exists, even with enemies-turned allies at the end of the day. he is a strong contender for a position.
melani may not be suitable for high council duty, however one of her male lieutenants would be. besides the obvious wobbly green bits, orions can seduce and using such underhanded tactics would be considered dishonorable, one worthy of a romulan :P. one of her male lieutenants would fit the role better while melani can focus her matters elsewhere.
realistically you could get a gorn and orion on the council with ja'rod and 3 other random klingons but i can not see the other races noticed on the list as members of the council, the trill shouldnt even be a playable race in the empire when only one joined trill served in the empire and that was very temporary and there are not that may symbiotic creatures on trill to deal with the silliness, besides that it would be a conflict of interest with the federation council.
the lethens like the nausicaans dont have representation and even if they did, the latter like to get paid for work and the former we know next to nothing about.
Been around since Dec 2010 on STO and bought LTS in Apr 2013 for STO.
thinking about it Grilka husband died in a accident which is a unusual circumstance but Duras was killed in the right of vengeance by Worf which im guessing isnt classed as a unusual circumstance in Klingon society so it may be why Lursa and Betor were not allowed to lead the house.
"It appears we have lost our sex appeal, captain."- Tuvok
Also an interesting point about Melani's status - the Orions may be voluntary members of the Empire, but I get the impression the lack the raw resources of the Gorn. Remember that, unlike the Orions and Nausicaans, the Gorn were/are a power bloc in their own right who fought off the Klingons for years. J'mpok is no fool - Gorn autonomy keeps them as a fleet in being, aligned with the KSF, instead of being a major headache to keep subjugated. Giving the Orions more obvious power would hurt that delicate balance.
not really with s'tass, all he needs is the support of slathis as council representive of the empire and have all the gorn behind him which would make him a very powerful man, having such a powerful man and resources would go along way to the empire, but it would require slathis and considering the 8472 attempted attack, slathis would likely throw his effort into it more for mutual protection with the klingons then anything. j'mpok isnt a fool and he would see the potential of putting a gorn on the council because it would give every gorn a more powerful position within the empire as brave warriors rather then just another slave group within klingon rule, it would bring a new infusion the klingons would need to remain strong as an empire.
Been around since Dec 2010 on STO and bought LTS in Apr 2013 for STO.
That would have to be a carefully handled political move on J'mpok s part.
Think how the Klingons will react, Yes many would be honored to fight alongside brave warriors as equals, But many will not accept Gorns as a Klingons Equal.
Think how many people today are Terrified of Illegal immigrants taking their jobs and how this makes people feel ( and vote )
Do you think all klingons are going to be happy with their Under class rising up to a voting council seat?
if the klingons wont put aside their differences with the iconian threat, then really they may as well go hide under the bed. there is great honor by accepting new allies and facing ones own fear.
such a grandiose idea xD. canonically the klingons do join the feds, but for the moment thats a delusion.
Been around since Dec 2010 on STO and bought LTS in Apr 2013 for STO.
OR J'Mpok is acutely aware that Worf killed Duras, son of Ja'rod thereby making Gowron Chancellor. Likewise, he later killed Gowron and put Martok forward as Chancellor. In both cases, Worf could have claimed power, but did not. It is entirely possible that J'Mpok wants Worf as far away from politics possible, lest Worf decide that J'Mpok is not acting in the best intrest of the Empire. That is one sword of Damocles that J'Mpok doesn't need hovering over his head.
This is after all the Klingon Empire not the UFP.