In the past week or so, either my luck has taken a dump or...something else has been doing on. I'd usually hit up 6-11 Contra per toon per go round. In the past week or so though, I'm usually looking at 0-3 Contra with the odd toon getting 5.
Same missions I've always done - I'm pretty lazy about how I DOFF for the most part.
edit: Then again, my overall Dil rewards have dropped off significantly as well. Used to get 4-5k, and now I'm lucky to get 1-2k.
Shouldnt be changed, i am running the same assignments i ran when i created the chart several months ago and the rewards are totally within the same range
Thats kinda strange
And i am still getting 6-11 like you say
EDIT: There is no way you should be getting 0-5, 2 or 3 contraband assignments on success only will drop 5 and on crit you are looking at as much as 15 for 2-3 assignments.
Also 2 tips,
1) look around a few sector blocks, you can usuallly find 12-15 missions to run for contraband
2) Once you have sirius sector block unlocked (maruading T4), I find it to be the BEST sector block for DOFF assignments awarding contraband.
To give an idea of how lucrative contraband farming from DOFF missions is, in the past 3 days, with two fully functional toons and one barely functional one, i got 87 contraband
87/5=17 remainder 2=34000 dilthium and 2 contraband OR 3.48 million EC'
And by fully functional i mean only 100 DOFFs, only 1/3 or so of which can be used on these assignments (these are also mostly uncommons)
A single KDF toon with 200 Doffs of 1/3rd white, green and blue quality should get you about 30 contraband per day as long as you are actively looking for Doff missions that rewards contraband.
LOL - I know some KDF guys that are pulling in 2000+ contraband a DAY! - and selling it for $80 million+ every day - or over $2 billion every month! and they do almost no grinding or work of any kind. There are some crazy guys who are netting several Billion EC every month.
Thank the Elite Orion Slaver pets as well as the KDF Marauding doff missions.
This is no joke!
Fed side gets only 1/100th the contraband farming potential of the KDF player.
LOL - I know some KDF guys that are pulling in 2000+ contraband a DAY! - and selling it for $80 million+ every day - or over $2 billion every month! and they do almost no grinding or work of any kind. There are some crazy guys who are netting several Billion EC every month.
Thank the Elite Orion Slaver pets as well as the KDF Marauding doff missions.
This is no joke!
Fed side gets only 1/100th the contraband farming potential of the KDF player.
It pays - literally - pays big to roll KDF!
Slavers pull almost nothing. It is not possible to pull thousands of contraband a day unless they literally had the max amount of toons and that is all they did plus having the appropriate doffs to net good amounts. Of course they could also be gold farmers with multiple accounts.
Slavers pull almost nothing. It is not possible to pull thousands of contraband a day unless they literally had the max amount of toons and that is all they did plus having the appropriate doffs to net good amounts. Of course they could also be gold farmers with multiple accounts.
A crit on a 45min raid a Starfleet facility can give something like 10 contraband - I can easily load up 22 missions in a few minutes just doing the Eta to Regulus to Tau to Pi canis circuit.
The collection of contraband on KDF side can be shockingly high if you know what to do and want to put in the time.
My 10 high level KDF doffing toons can pull in 300-500 contraband per day.
that is $43k x 500 = $22 million EC a day - and I could easily expand that to another 10 toons - or 20 or 30 or 40
Now that is a trick i would like learn .... getting alot of contraband on my own....
While I have no idea how he pulls that much per toon, the chart should help choose the right assignment anyway.
Unless he mean 300-500 total between all in which case that is completely possible with the right DOFFs, to get 30 per toon he would have to get 2 contraband per assignment at 15 per toon, or 5 per assignment at 6 per toon.
That is completely within the realm of possibility with 10 farming toons.
Basically you take a KDF toon with 100-200 decent DOFFs and run the circuit he described, picking up all missions that reward contraband (ones the have guaranteed reward should be prioritized over those that only reward on crit)
Doing this multiple times per day is obviously optimal, but this can still net you 30-40 with a good team of DOFFs (per character) in one run
Something to think about, if you dont like KDF ships is that KDF Aligned Romulans can do this just as well.
A question for everyone who has seen the sheet, would it be helpful if i created a second sheet in the document with just the success/crit averages for each assignment?
An example has been created on a second sheet, called Averages
A question for everyone who has seen the sheet, would it be helpful if i created a second sheet in the document with just the success/crit averages for each assignment?
An example has been created on a second sheet, called Averages
Would also need the number of samples to make sense...
As an aside ... there is also the variables on the ampount of doffs used per mission, the rarity of the doffs, and the crit quality level when the assignment is started.
Would interesting to see if it can be "averaged" out.
As another point ... someone who can grind 250 contraband a day, earns 10M ec a day ... that goes a long way into buying the required purple doffs off the exchange to use in the marauding to maximise the contraband return.
Would also need the number of samples to make sense...
As an aside ... there is also the variables on the amount* of doffs used per mission, the rarity of the doffs, and the crit quality level when the assignment is started.
Would interesting to see if it can be "averaged" out.
As another point ... someone who can grind 250 contraband a day, earns 10M ec a day ... that goes a long way into buying the required purple doffs off the exchange to use in the marauding to maximise the contraband return.
Ill see if I can get that to work, i can start logging DOFFs, but honestly im using mostly uncommons with one or two success traits on these missions, so until my team gets better its not neccesarily worth specifics. What i could try to log is the +crit% that the mission has when i start it, see if that has an impact.
I also still need to expand these toons to 200 slots. Im grinding the dilithium for that now.
Yes, the quality reward definatly has impact on doff missions (not all ...like "turn in contraband". its locked to 2k dil).
For example, the turn in eppo tag doff mission ... quality on crit can make all the difference of starting a new eppo daily, or every few days. I believe that Crit's give u more of the purchase tokens, depending on quality.
While I have no idea how he pulls that much per toon, the chart should help choose the right assignment anyway.
Unless he mean 300-500 total between all in which case that is completely possible with the right DOFFs, to get 30 per toon he would have to get 2 contraband per assignment at 15 per toon, or 5 per assignment at 6 per toon.
That is completely within the realm of possibility with 10 farming toons.
Basically you take a KDF toon with 100-200 decent DOFFs and run the circuit he described, picking up all missions that reward contraband (ones the have guaranteed reward should be prioritized over those that only reward on crit)
Doing this multiple times per day is obviously optimal, but this can still net you 30-40 with a good team of DOFFs (per character) in one run
Something to think about, if you dont like KDF ships is that KDF Aligned Romulans can do this just as well.
Yes it is more than possible. I have not done it in awhile for 2 reason: A)I have a new job and game time has been severely cut back after $3 or $4 billion EC - it just not that interesting any more.
I have friends that use this and other methods to more or less control the prices of most things on the exchange. The amount of EC some people have is shocking - my $3 to $4 billion makes me seem like a shoe shine boy!! They spend 8 hrs a day running the games exchange - why? That is their STO game - for some people it's grinding STF's - for others is manipulating the virtual "stock" exchange. Seems like a waste of time to me - but hey - it's a game to them and if prices keep rising - people keep grinding and whipping out their credit cards to by Zen to convert to EC and Cryptic is happy - so alls good.
Later today I will go in and run the circuit on a few KDF toons just to get a feel for it again. But really it's just another form of grinding - and I am really tired of grinding.
But just keep this in mind - you can have 22 doff mission slots - almost all mission you pick pay avg of 2 contraband on a success - which is certain with the right purple doffs - so that is 40+ contraband per RUN!! Guaranteed! Before any crits. Just don't try raiding any Vulcans - they don't carry contraband:P:( (sometimes you have to go farther then the run I mentioned earlier - and add the blocks around Ds9 - but transwarping is free or as little as 500 ec)
Raid on Experimental Research Station - Success - No Quality Bonus
5 Dil, 49 MAR, 94 XP, 108 SP, 9 Commodities, 2 Contraband, 490 EC
Raid on Starfleet Photonics Research Center - Crit Success - 100% Quality Bonus
125 Dil, 176 MAR, 312 XP, 358 SP, 60 Commodities, 5 Contraband, 980 EC
Offensive on Federation Mining Colony - Succes - No Quality Bonus
5 Dil, 55 MAR, 106 XP, 133 SP, 20 Commodities, 2 Contraband, 490 EC
Unauthorized Raid on Illegal Bolian Farming Colony - Success - No Quality Bonus
5 Dil, 218 MAR, 746 XP, 855 SP, 5 Commodities, 2 Prisoners, 490 EC
Unauthorized Raid on Illegal Human Colony - Crit Success - 150% Quality Bonus
250 Dil, 835 MAR, 1945 XP, 2227 SP, 5 Commodities, 5 Prisoners, 980 EC
I have been trying it out the last 2 days to get a feel again. I thought on some crits that I had got 10 contraband in the past - but have yet to replicate that - could be my memory or a nerf - or a nerf to my memory:P
what you primarily want to load up on are all the 45 min -Raid/Assult/offensive/blockade/bombard - etc etc missions
Those provide 1 or 2 on success and 5 on a crit
Just remember No Vulcans as they DO NOT provide contraband
PS - in each sector or Regulus/ETA/Pi canis - don't forget to check you tactical dept head officer to find the forced labour camp missions - send 4 Fed prisoners off on each mission for 500 dilithium! Your Brig will hit it's 20 prisoner capacity fast!
A crit on a 45min raid a Starfleet facility can give something like 10 contraband - I can easily load up 22 missions in a few minutes just doing the Eta to Regulus to Tau to Pi canis circuit.
The collection of contraband on KDF side can be shockingly high if you know what to do and want to put in the time.
My 10 high level KDF doffing toons can pull in 300-500 contraband per day.
that is $43k x 500 = $22 million EC a day - and I could easily expand that to another 10 toons - or 20 or 30 or 40
To the best of my knowledge, no marauding mission rewards more than 5 contraband on critical success in my experience and according to the linked list of marauding missions below:
Unless he mean 300-500 total between all in which case that is completely possible with the right DOFFs, to get 30 per toon he would have to get 2 contraband per assignment at 15 per toon, or 5 per assignment at 6 per toon.
The poster stated that his 10 high level toons can pull in 300 - 500 contraband. That's 30 - 50 per toon and it totally within the realm of possibility since that ia what I can get with my single KDF toon. 30 contraband on a single KDF toon per day takes very little effort. However, to get 50 per day you need to put in some effort.
My Fed toon probably gets about 4 - 8 contraband per day. Sometime less since missions rewarding contraband are not easy to come by. For example, there are "Investigate Reports of Contraband Trafficking" (or something like that) which I have not seen in 5 days while flying through the sectors that I normal fly through every time I played STO during those days.
Any chance of adding a column for what sectors these appear in? I generally hover in Tau Dewa, and the areas around DS9 seem to be good, but a lot of sectors rarely seem to have any of these.
Also, I hadn't seen this fully mentioned, but I generally see these pop up under current map and first officer most often if that helps anyone.
Also, I hadn't seen this fully mentioned, but I generally see these pop up under current map and first officer most often if that helps anyone.
That's because those are the only two instances where you will see Marauding missions.
"Current Map" Updates every 4 hours. Doff missions available from your Boffs and personal tab should update every hour. The timers are in the lower left hand corner of the Doff window.
Any chance of adding a column for what sectors these appear in? I generally hover in Tau Dewa, and the areas around DS9 seem to be good, but a lot of sectors rarely seem to have any of these.
Also, I hadn't seen this fully mentioned, but I generally see these pop up under current map and first officer most often if that helps anyone.
I started to do that for some of them, the column directly to the right of the data has location data for a handful, I will start logging them in that column.
1st is that if you have questions/comments/suggestions and dont want to wait for me to check this thread, you can mail/PM me in game @jarodroto123 or e-mail me at jarod.roto@yahoo.com (I check my e-mail several times a day in places where i have plenty of time to answer mail but do not have access to STO
The other is that i noticed the n-word being commented on my spreadsheet, while i do know that some people use it as a synonym to "my boy" or "man" or "dude" ect. and i have no problem with it being used in that context; those comments can be seen by anyone, and I would rather not chance a stray comment offending someone. So please, if you are going to comment, refrain from using profanity.
I dont think enough people refine and convert an significant quantity, i doubt it has that much impact
Yeah but the thing is people who "grind" their dil are hardcapped by the refinery cap on their character. We contrabanders just circumvent that limitation entirely with our army of alts. :P
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Shouldnt be changed, i am running the same assignments i ran when i created the chart several months ago and the rewards are totally within the same range
Thats kinda strange
And i am still getting 6-11 like you say
EDIT: There is no way you should be getting 0-5, 2 or 3 contraband assignments on success only will drop 5 and on crit you are looking at as much as 15 for 2-3 assignments.
Also 2 tips,
1) look around a few sector blocks, you can usuallly find 12-15 missions to run for contraband
2) Once you have sirius sector block unlocked (maruading T4), I find it to be the BEST sector block for DOFF assignments awarding contraband.
87/5=17 remainder 2=34000 dilthium and 2 contraband OR 3.48 million EC'
And by fully functional i mean only 100 DOFFs, only 1/3 or so of which can be used on these assignments (these are also mostly uncommons)
Thank the Elite Orion Slaver pets as well as the KDF Marauding doff missions.
This is no joke!
Fed side gets only 1/100th the contraband farming potential of the KDF player.
It pays - literally - pays big to roll KDF!
Slavers pull almost nothing. It is not possible to pull thousands of contraband a day unless they literally had the max amount of toons and that is all they did plus having the appropriate doffs to net good amounts. Of course they could also be gold farmers with multiple accounts.
A crit on a 45min raid a Starfleet facility can give something like 10 contraband - I can easily load up 22 missions in a few minutes just doing the Eta to Regulus to Tau to Pi canis circuit.
The collection of contraband on KDF side can be shockingly high if you know what to do and want to put in the time.
My 10 high level KDF doffing toons can pull in 300-500 contraband per day.
that is $43k x 500 = $22 million EC a day - and I could easily expand that to another 10 toons - or 20 or 30 or 40
While I have no idea how he pulls that much per toon, the chart should help choose the right assignment anyway.
Unless he mean 300-500 total between all in which case that is completely possible with the right DOFFs, to get 30 per toon he would have to get 2 contraband per assignment at 15 per toon, or 5 per assignment at 6 per toon.
That is completely within the realm of possibility with 10 farming toons.
Basically you take a KDF toon with 100-200 decent DOFFs and run the circuit he described, picking up all missions that reward contraband (ones the have guaranteed reward should be prioritized over those that only reward on crit)
Doing this multiple times per day is obviously optimal, but this can still net you 30-40 with a good team of DOFFs (per character) in one run
Something to think about, if you dont like KDF ships is that KDF Aligned Romulans can do this just as well.
An example has been created on a second sheet, called Averages
Would also need the number of samples to make sense...
As an aside ... there is also the variables on the ampount of doffs used per mission, the rarity of the doffs, and the crit quality level when the assignment is started.
Would interesting to see if it can be "averaged" out.
As another point ... someone who can grind 250 contraband a day, earns 10M ec a day ... that goes a long way into buying the required purple doffs off the exchange to use in the marauding to maximise the contraband return.
Ill see if I can get that to work, i can start logging DOFFs, but honestly im using mostly uncommons with one or two success traits on these missions, so until my team gets better its not neccesarily worth specifics. What i could try to log is the +crit% that the mission has when i start it, see if that has an impact.
I also still need to expand these toons to 200 slots. Im grinding the dilithium for that now.
For example, the turn in eppo tag doff mission ... quality on crit can make all the difference of starting a new eppo daily, or every few days. I believe that Crit's give u more of the purchase tokens, depending on quality.
Yes it is more than possible. I have not done it in awhile for 2 reason: A)I have a new job and game time has been severely cut back
I have friends that use this and other methods to more or less control the prices of most things on the exchange. The amount of EC some people have is shocking - my $3 to $4 billion makes me seem like a shoe shine boy!! They spend 8 hrs a day running the games exchange - why? That is their STO game - for some people it's grinding STF's - for others is manipulating the virtual "stock" exchange. Seems like a waste of time to me - but hey - it's a game to them and if prices keep rising - people keep grinding and whipping out their credit cards to by Zen to convert to EC and Cryptic is happy - so alls good.
Later today I will go in and run the circuit on a few KDF toons just to get a feel for it again. But really it's just another form of grinding - and I am really tired of grinding.
But just keep this in mind - you can have 22 doff mission slots - almost all mission you pick pay avg of 2 contraband on a success - which is certain with the right purple doffs - so that is 40+ contraband per RUN!! Guaranteed! Before any crits. Just don't try raiding any Vulcans - they don't carry contraband:P:( (sometimes you have to go farther then the run I mentioned earlier - and add the blocks around Ds9 - but transwarping is free or as little as 500 ec)
Confiscate Contraband from Crew - Success - No Quality bonus
5 Dil, 142 Dev, 453 XP, 519 SP, 1 Ale, 1 Contraband
Confiscate Contraband from Crew - Success - No Quality bonus
5 Dil, 121 Dev, 372 XP, 427 SP, 2 Contraband
Confiscate Contraband from Crew - Crit Success - 100% Quality bonus
125 Dil, 573 Dev, 1298 XP, 1485 SP, 2 Ale, 1 Proto Consumable, 1 Contraband
Assault Starfleet Starship Refitting Station - Success - No Quality Bonus
5 Dil, 51 MAR, 102 XP, 116 SP, 55 Commodities, 2 Contraband, 490 EC
Capture Starfleet Ammunition Depot - Success - No Quality Bonus
5 Dil, 53 MAR, 109 XP, 125 SP, 18 Commodities, 2 Contraband, 490 EC
Disable Bolian Freighter - Success - No Quality Bonus
5 Dil, 62 MAR, 145 XP, 167 SP, 8 Commodities, 1 Contraband, 490 EC
Disable Bolian Freighter - Success - No Quality Bonus
5 Dil, 64 MAR, 151 XP, 173 SP, 6 Commodities, 1 Contraband, 1 Prisoner, 490 EC
Disable Ferengi Freighter - Success - No Quality Bonus
5 Dil, 67 MAR, 163 XP, 187 SP, 11 Commodities, 2 Contraband, 490 EC
Disable Vulcan Freighter - Success - No Quality Bonus
5 Dil, 67 MAR, 163 XP, 187 SP, 3 Commodities, 1 Prisoner, 1 Ship Shield, 490 EC
Raid on Experimental Research Station - Success - No Quality Bonus
5 Dil, 49 MAR, 94 XP, 108 SP, 9 Commodities, 2 Contraband, 490 EC
Raid on Starfleet Photonics Research Center - Crit Success - 100% Quality Bonus
125 Dil, 176 MAR, 312 XP, 358 SP, 60 Commodities, 5 Contraband, 980 EC
Offensive on Federation Mining Colony - Succes - No Quality Bonus
5 Dil, 55 MAR, 106 XP, 133 SP, 20 Commodities, 2 Contraband, 490 EC
Unauthorized Raid on Illegal Bolian Farming Colony - Success - No Quality Bonus
5 Dil, 218 MAR, 746 XP, 855 SP, 5 Commodities, 2 Prisoners, 490 EC
Unauthorized Raid on Illegal Human Colony - Crit Success - 150% Quality Bonus
250 Dil, 835 MAR, 1945 XP, 2227 SP, 5 Commodities, 5 Prisoners, 980 EC
Thanks, ill add these when i get home today
http://sto.gamepedia.com/Assignment:_Investigate_Illegal_Gambling
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Ill add it to the sheet. thanks
I have been trying it out the last 2 days to get a feel again. I thought on some crits that I had got 10 contraband in the past - but have yet to replicate that - could be my memory or a nerf - or a nerf to my memory:P
what you primarily want to load up on are all the 45 min -Raid/Assult/offensive/blockade/bombard - etc etc missions
Those provide 1 or 2 on success and 5 on a crit
Just remember No Vulcans as they DO NOT provide contraband
PS - in each sector or Regulus/ETA/Pi canis - don't forget to check you tactical dept head officer to find the forced labour camp missions - send 4 Fed prisoners off on each mission for 500 dilithium! Your Brig will hit it's 20 prisoner capacity fast!
To the best of my knowledge, no marauding mission rewards more than 5 contraband on critical success in my experience and according to the linked list of marauding missions below:
http://sto.gamepedia.com/Contraband
Personally, I convert my contraband in dilithium ore.
The poster stated that his 10 high level toons can pull in 300 - 500 contraband. That's 30 - 50 per toon and it totally within the realm of possibility since that ia what I can get with my single KDF toon. 30 contraband on a single KDF toon per day takes very little effort. However, to get 50 per day you need to put in some effort.
My Fed toon probably gets about 4 - 8 contraband per day. Sometime less since missions rewarding contraband are not easy to come by. For example, there are "Investigate Reports of Contraband Trafficking" (or something like that) which I have not seen in 5 days while flying through the sectors that I normal fly through every time I played STO during those days.
Also, I hadn't seen this fully mentioned, but I generally see these pop up under current map and first officer most often if that helps anyone.
That's because those are the only two instances where you will see Marauding missions.
"Current Map" Updates every 4 hours. Doff missions available from your Boffs and personal tab should update every hour. The timers are in the lower left hand corner of the Doff window.
I started to do that for some of them, the column directly to the right of the data has location data for a handful, I will start logging them in that column.
1st is that if you have questions/comments/suggestions and dont want to wait for me to check this thread, you can mail/PM me in game @jarodroto123 or e-mail me at jarod.roto@yahoo.com (I check my e-mail several times a day in places where i have plenty of time to answer mail but do not have access to STO
The other is that i noticed the n-word being commented on my spreadsheet, while i do know that some people use it as a synonym to "my boy" or "man" or "dude" ect. and i have no problem with it being used in that context; those comments can be seen by anyone, and I would rather not chance a stray comment offending someone. So please, if you are going to comment, refrain from using profanity.
Thank You
I dont think enough people refine and convert an significant quantity, i doubt it has that much impact
Yeah but the thing is people who "grind" their dil are hardcapped by the refinery cap on their character. We contrabanders just circumvent that limitation entirely with our army of alts. :P