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With the war over, how about a new Maquis?
azniadeet
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I was just watching the DS9 episode Blaze of Glory, and it got me pining for some more solid Maquis stories. But since the original Maquis were killed off in the Dominion war, how about a new group of settlers and colonists who organize over a similar cause, this time, on the Klingon border.
The end of the KDF-Fed war is a great opportunity to introduce a rogue cell of former-Federation colonists who's worlds were ceded to the Klingon Empire in the midst of peace talks.
I know everything's got to revolve around the iconians, or 8472 or the silly Dinosaur people... whatever the big-bad of the season is... but I'd love to see some stories that get back to something much more organic, like the Maquis!
The end of the KDF-Fed war is a great opportunity to introduce a rogue cell of former-Federation colonists who's worlds were ceded to the Klingon Empire in the midst of peace talks.
I know everything's got to revolve around the iconians, or 8472 or the silly Dinosaur people... whatever the big-bad of the season is... but I'd love to see some stories that get back to something much more organic, like the Maquis!
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Support 90 degree arc limitation on BFaW! Save our ships from looking like flying disco balls of dumb!
Same. It's not a bad concept, but STO already retreads DS9 way too much in certain arcs.
What we have now is a cease fire and truce, but its by no means a guarantee for lasting peace.
I'm gonna go with "How about no" on this one. At least the Dominion could be called "a new unknown factor" when people decided to make settlements on their doorstep. The biggest thing trying the same stunt on the Klingon border would bring is an opportunity for some throwaway mission text: "They set up a colony where? Wow. How stupid can you get. Did anyone escape?"
why end one conflict and start another for? especially with aliens hell bent on getting rid of the infestation around iconia? no sense in the idea. move it on along now..
Been around since Dec 2010 on STO and bought LTS in Apr 2013 for STO.
No, no, no! I'm sick of being railroaded. The absolutely last thing STO needs is a faction we are forced to fight that people can sympathize with. It's bad enough that there are people who want to join the Romulan Empire, but an enemy with a genuinely just cause, just no! Cryptic will never allow us to switch our Starfleet vessels for Ju'day class raiders (except in a lock box) and I really don't want a whole arc of Divide et Impera.
Sometimes, if you want to bury the hatchet with a Klingon, it has to be in his skull. - Captain K'Tar of the USS Danu about J'mpok.
There's plenty of room in the current situation for all sorts of rogue captains and shadowy conspiracies, without need of the Maquis.
I'm actually more interested in how the RR react to the cease fire.
Arguably it weakens their position considerably, by decreasing their ability to play one faction ff against the other.
I think it would need something different to make it interesting.
The Undine plot has been too much like DS9's Changeling plot and that, IMHO, shows that there is a need for something different.
If the new Maquis was backed by Section 31, maybe. Or if they were developing a time machine to go back and nuke Qo'noS in the past. Or were allied with Temporal Cold War Guy. Or if it was a colony of liberated holograms who felt we were trying to re-enslave them. Or maybe if the new Maquis allied with the Hur'Q, continuing that plotline.
It's not so much the specific ideas I just tossed out. It's that I think it needs something extra or it's a rehash.
What if it was an entire faction where you don't kill them, like the Bajoran protesters in Undine Infiltration? They collapse. You beam them up for holding. They have a daily where you can fight to have them acquitted or convicted, your choice.
Aye.
I'm thinking about developing a series of short stories with my Federalist crew from the LCs that does something along this line. Michael Eddington is one of my all time favorite Star Trek 'villains', because he really wasn't all that bad. I want to create a villain along his lines, but slightly darker and more morally ambiguous- but I don't want to make it a straight re-do of the original Maquis story.
Maybe if Cryptic can actually bring closure to a couple of them they can start working on others.
Maybe a story could fit in there, and maybe there could be some sort of followup.
As with all storylines people suggest, if you really feel strongly about it, I encourage you to make a Foundry mission.
This really:
The Maquis, if I remember correctly, arose from Federation Colonist, on Federation Colonies. Who, after the Cardassian-Federation War, were told their planets were no longer part of Federation Territory, So they had to move. And chose not to, nor to except Cardassian rule.
To my knowledge, no territory has traded hands as part of the cease fire. So why would you have a Maquis movement. It just doesn't make sense at this point.
Well, of course, that would be an introduced plot element. That's all you need for it to make sense.
im afraid any and all of these even in combination is still a rehash.
this is why i think there is nothing in the idea, the very idea ia a rehash anyways. rebel groups just for the hell of it, whats the point?
Been around since Dec 2010 on STO and bought LTS in Apr 2013 for STO.
At some point in the future, I would like to learn how to use the Foundry. But for now, I'm gonna roll with short stories.
I'm sure Federation "colonists" wishing to try the Maquis thing against the warlike Klingon Empire will "fare nicely"
The Empire is always looking for a good excuse to stomp someone's face in, and by all means, do so.
And I'm sure that the Federation who had already lost a lot of ships and personnel in the wasteful, and what turned out to be, completely unnecessary, and very, VERY recent Federation-Klingon War will be looking forward to some dimwits that want to reignite that conflict from their borders. And I'm sure there's more than enough long-lived, still active Starfleet members that were around during the last idiotic Maquis that tried so hard to bring the Federation into war with the Cardassians.
Look how well that turned out.
By all means.
Do so.
More war for the Klingons will be seen as a GOOD THING by the Klingons. The Federation won't see it that way. And the Romulans will be annoyed that the Feds can't keep their own affairs in order.
The Maquis, LOL, just LOL!
Cryptic's better when they try to do something relatively more original.
Oh, please. Eddington was a genocidal jackass with delusions of grandeur.
— Sabaton, "Great War"
Check out https://unitedfederationofpla.net/s/
Eddington never tried to commit genocide. He did have an inflated sense of self-importance, but he often achieved up to it. That was what made him so compelling. He believed in himself more than anyone else, he was completely right and good in his own eyes, and he was driven by a moral code- not by pragmatic goals.
Eddington, to use psychology-speak, is the rare example of an INFP villain. He's driven by loyalty and morality- which, when driven toward a questionable goal- is exceptionally dangerous.
If the Maquis could outsmart the Cardassians for years like they did, they're have no hard time out thinking the macro-headed micro-brains on the red side.
And a lot of those missions are suuuper outdated leaving a bad taste when playing them.
Go watch "For the Uniform" again. He dropped chemical weapons on Cardassian civilians and then tried to have the evacuation ships shot down. It was only with the Defiant's intervention that the civvies got out at all.
Hardly. When the Maquis started up the Cardassian Union wasn't devoting their whole force to the problem because A) they saw it as a relatively minor insurgency (the Cardassian military apparatus is nothing if not overconfident), and
Then, whether by luck or by changeling intervention, the Maquis got serious right about the time the Dominion trashed the bulk of the Cardassian intelligence apparatus at the Omarion Nebula trap. As anyone who's served in Iraq, Afghanistan, or any of the various other conflicts of the 2000s will tell you, fighting an insurgency is even more a matter of having good intel work than a conventional war is.
And then my favorite part: without the Obsidian Order keeping a lid on the dissidents, the Cardassian dictatorship is ****ing overthrown and the Klingons invade. Now, in addition to the central command structure getting ripped up by the roots during the revolution (Dukat was able to stay because he was good at sucking up to people), they're busy trying not to get outright conquered.
The Maquis had a hell of a lot of luck keeping the Cardies from steamrolling them.
— Sabaton, "Great War"
Check out https://unitedfederationofpla.net/s/
Which came to an abrupt and considerably bloody end the moment Dukat sold out to the Dominion.
That isn't genocide at all. He made the planet uninhabitable, then he placed a cardassian transport in peril to distract Sisko. You have no evidence that his actions there led to- or even intended to lead to- even one Cardassian death.
And you think the Klingons will fare better on that front than the Cardassians did?
The Maquis are the worst nightmare of a force like the Klingons.
With the Iconian plot put to rest, I would actually prefer something like the Maquis being focused on.
To be more specific, with the Iconian plot being a threat from the outside -- once that is resolved, I would much prefer to see the next big threat being one being from within.
Which means a focus on already-established alien groups and quadrant-spanning story arcs and plots -- each story arc could allow the dev team to revisit old places and rejuvenate and vitalize them.
For instance, a plot regarding the Imperialists on Andoria could lead to more dev time revisiting that iceball.
A plot regarding Vulcans, or Orions -- Gorn, really... the possibilities are far greater than that, and if the biggest external threat is gone, the only logical step is the next biggest theat being from within the factions and governments.
A new type of Maquis to me would be a brilliant decision if Cryptic focused on internal issues rather than external ones. Each year could focus on one particular story arc.
The year of the Andorians, the year of the Vulcans, the year of the Remans, the year of the Gorn, the year of the Orions, the year of the Maquis, the year of the Unificationists, the year of the Cardassians. A year focusing on a particular faction as a series of story arcs to me is much more appealing than truly alien threats like the Voth, Elachi, or Solanae.