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THe curse of the afk penalty
chrishellmax2363
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My bad, seems i should not say anything..
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STFs are much better since penatlies started. I shouldn't suffer for your infrastructure problems.
Okay, I'm gonna toss you a flippen wakeup.
That's what you call a "personal problem." Get on your government to upgrade your infrastructure. Solve the real problem, and it goes away. But no, they shouldn't remove penalties or add bloat to make up for your connection sucking. (See "personal problem.")
They have something monitoring for commands from your PC. It's called the game server. You got dropped because commands from your PC weren't reaching the game server. So we add your "monitor" at the game server end of the connection, and...can you see where this is going?
Or how about we put the monitor at your end- it sees you're still playing, sends the "not really AFK" signal down the same line that's not getting your commands to the server, and...yeah. Again, see how that works? Or more to the point, how it doesn't?
Move closer ..... :P
And so he demands Cryptic do something about his personal problem, which is completely out of their control. :rolleyes:
And threatens to commit a TOS violation in the process.
Yes, it's not Cryptic/PWE's fault for crappy connections in South Africa.
At the same time, the OP probably pays a good chunk of money for Internet services. I'm not sure if the rates over there are 1:1 with North American average internet rates, but if they are, he's getting ripped off by his country's poor infrastructure. Paying the same amount for lesser quality services is a ripoff.
It's not PWE's issue, nor is it the OP's. It's the country and its existing infrastructure who is at fault.
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Given that you tend to defend your own personal views, I respect your opinion (we don't always agree, but as I said: Your personal views, and I like people who stick with their personal views).
But this is at LEAST the 2'nd time the OP posts this... It's obvious he isn't going to stop, and that he refuses to acknowledge that it's HIS problem, not Cryptic's... They really can do nothing about his issue, and the AFK penalty HAS to stay since it's yielded generally positive results (havn't seen a single AFK'er since the system was implemented).
Every counter action unavoidably hit innocence, but if he knows there's a high probability that he gets an SNR or timeout, he is just as harmful to team-missions as a AFK'er is... only difference is that if he is disconnected early, he is replaced... A AFK'er isn't, so in terms of the OP, the AFK penalty is actually MORE beneficial.
Not only is he replaced, but he is also kept from taking a spot from someone who won't be disconnected (at least not knowingly).
I sympathise.
I've lived in places with really bad infrastructure and tried to play team based FPS games.
I once got cut off from the net for two weeks because an eagle committed suicide by flying into the one pole on res with the utilities on it. Poor thing actually exploded.
However, AFK leeching is a significent issue for many in the game. Cryptic really had to respond somehow.
All I can suggest for you is to run tracert(sp?) on your connection and see if proxies might help. It's about the only thing short of relocating you can do under your own steam to help.
Thank you, Captain Obvious, for stating in long form what's been said a dozen times over already. Not Cryptic's problem to solve, like I and several others said. :rolleyes:
If that ability to get around the penalty actually existed, I wouldn't have gotten a penalty for a CSE run where I fully participated in the killing of the first cube then was completely immobilized by lag for the rest of the match. This is not new, although I probably don't have it as often as the OP does.
Infrastructure problems like that are not limited to South Africa, people. I'm in rural North Carolina.
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Sure it is. If they offer a service in a certain place - in this case South Africa - they should better make sure it f***** works. Not the problem of South African infrastructure, but that of Cryptic only running their servers from the States, which WILL create higher latency, regardless of the local infrastructure.
Other companies can manage it, but Cryptic just proves again that they don't care for their non-US customer base. It keeps showing again and again, (payment methods, exchange rates, US-exclusive offers/prizes, servers) that they don't give a damn about foreigners.
Wow... Thats about THE single most silly statement I've seen on these forums to date. No really... Even all the JJ-verse/T5 connie threads aren't as silly as this statement.
Just because you can access STO from South Africa, dosen't make cryptic responsible for a lousy infrastructure by some sloppy ISP in a nation half way around the world from them...
Even writing a counter-statement to that idea feels stupid.
You want sympathy and assistance? Make a topic complaining about your bad connection.
You want derision and antagonism? Make a topic complaining about getting hit with the AFK penalty because you contribute as much as an AFKer.
Sure it does. You don't have a clue about the infrastructure the OP's using but you simply assume that it's a "sloppy ISP". You can eliminate everything reasonable that can cause problems on your end, and you'll still get lousy latency if the recipient is all the way across the world or if that's where the bad infrastructure is located.
Other games and manufacturers, even small ones, have had those problems and solved them or at least tried to bring them down to acceptable levels. If Cryptic ever were to introduce any type of PvE or PvP that's going to be even remotely competative, it's going to become a bigger issue...
Seperated servers would also protect foreign players from all the mostly-American xenophobes in General chat, who seem to jump on anyone who dares speak a foreign language in there, even though the game is marketed and sold other countries using the local language...
And since servers are free, why not, right? :rolleyes:
And as you can see, the follow-up was more of the same.
Considering that it's a general South African Problem for most online-games, it's a tad more than just an assumption.
BTW STO isn't sold anymore...
Once I came into the map it was already finished and I didnt get a shot off on anything.
THought to myself well that was kinda rubbish I did not get any FM rewards but nvm I will Q up for another and try again.
No I Cant. Becuase I am unable to Q for anything for 2 HRS.
SERIOUSLY WTF ARE YOU TRYING TO DO HERE?!
...#LLAP...
"/netgraph 1" and "/netgraph 0" to disable it again, you could also run a trace route to one of their servers, if you don't know how this will explain it.
How do I run a tracert? Go to Start -> Run and enter CMD to bring up a command prompt. Once there, enter this command:
tracert patchserver.crypticstudios.com
Do a tracert and see where the lag is. Compare the isp tracert with other isps in the area/country. Each isp uses different routing servers. If they all have the same lag, get satellite internet.
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