I always loved the ENT era BoP. Just one thing - this needs a cloak, must feel Klingon!
Except at this point in history the Klingons did not yet have cloaking technology. They didn't get it until they had a temporary alliance with the Romulans.
Now what they could do is make this a costume option for a fleet BoP. So there, tier one has no cloak and since the fleet version is just a BoP costume it can cloak.
Except at this point in history the Klingons did not yet have cloaking technology. They didn't get it until they had a temporary alliance with the Romulans.
Now what they could do is make this a costume option for a fleet BoP. So there, tier one has no cloak and since the fleet version is just a BoP costume it can cloak.
yes and no . if you go by DS9, Kor and kang had them albeit new tech at the time for the battle of keleb. or how ever its spelled. which took place during the short lived war that the organia peace treaty ended. and that was a year or two before the tech exchange with the romulans. but you are correct in ENT times they didn't have cloak yet.
Trophies for killing FEDS ahh those were the days.
Except at this point in history the Klingons did not yet have cloaking technology. They didn't get it until they had a temporary alliance with the Romulans.
Now what they could do is make this a costume option for a fleet BoP. So there, tier one has no cloak and since the fleet version is just a BoP costume it can cloak.
yes and no . if you go by DS9, Kor and kang had them albeit new tech at the time for the battle of keleb. or how ever its spelled. which took place during the short lived war that the organia peace treaty ended. and that was a year or two before the tech exchange with the romulans. but you are correct in ENT times they didn't have cloak yet.
Uhm......You guys do realize that we're talking about a current ship to be released in the 25-th century, right?
While it's aesthetics may be based upon the ENT era BoP, what possible reason in frozen Gre'thor would the Klingons have to not install a cloaking device on one of their BoPs at this time?
Uhm......You guys do realize that we're talking about a current ship to be released in the 25-th century, right?
While it's aesthetics may be based upon the ENT era BoP, what possible reason in frozen Gre'thor would the Klingons have to not install a cloaking device on one of their BoPs at this time?
What possible reason is there for releasing an NX replica at this time? My suggestion is that the KDF decided to do the same thing. Besides, if one was to practice couting coup, if an NX could beat a KDF ship, how much honor and glory could a new KDf captain earn by doing the same to them?
I also recognize that for this ship, I exchanged one point of turn rating, the cloak, and a loss of +5 to weapons for an additional 1,000 hul hp. I suppose with what is being given up, it should be 12,000 hull.
I also think that this T1 ship's special console could be the same grappler console that comes with the NX replica.
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What possible reason is there for releasing an NX replica at this time? My suggestion is that the KDF decided to do the same thing. Besides, if one was to practice couting coup, if an NX could beat a KDF ship, how much honor and glory could a new KDf captain earn by doing the same to them?
I wan't a cloaking device on this BoP, don't crush my dreams dammit! :cool: :P
I also think that this T1 ship's special console could be the same grappler console that comes with the NX replica.
Well if you really want to go with full replica, using this console wouldn't make sense, since this ship already had tractor beam technology installed in ENT.
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Except at this point in history the Klingons did not yet have cloaking technology. They didn't get it until they had a temporary alliance with the Romulans.
During ENT they didn't have a cloak, but they didn't get it from the Romulans.
Also give us a D-5 dammit.
Norway and Yeager dammit... I still want my Typhoon and Jupiter though. JJ Trek The Kelvin Timeline is just Trek and it's fully canon... get over it. But I still prefer TAR.
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'...The Federation. Starfleet. We're not a military agency.' Scotty: Beyond
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I think he meant them being statwise very similar, just currently without the access to the 22-th century era look.
If that's what he meant by "22nd century skin" he communicated it very poorly.
For me "skin" means something that actually has a certain look.
That other thing is called "stats".;)
Oh and I'd also like to add that when we look at the T1 ships on the Fed side, especially the escorts, those are pretty much identical statwise as well.
So there's no good reason I can see why another T1 BoP should have vastly different stats.
Oh and I'd also like to add that when we look at the T1 ships on the Fed side, especially the escorts, those are pretty much identical statwise as well.
So there's no good reason I can see why another T1 BoP should have vastly different stats.
Not really. Each of the T1 ships have different stats. While it is no surprise that they are similar because it is near the start of the game, they are NOT the same.
My suggestion was to make a T1 ship that has the manuverability of the BOP, but didn't have the cloak. That would likely require a boost in hull points.
Not really. Each of the T1 ships have different stats. While it is no surprise that they are similar because it is near the start of the game, they are NOT the same.
My suggestion was to make a T1 ship that has the manuverability of the BOP, but didn't have the cloak. That would likely require a boost in hull points.
Appearently you and I don't think of the same things when the phrase "vastly different stats" is involved.:)
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I always loved the ENT era BoP. Just one thing - this needs a cloak, must feel Klingon!
Except at this point in history the Klingons did not yet have cloaking technology. They didn't get it until they had a temporary alliance with the Romulans.
Now what they could do is make this a costume option for a fleet BoP. So there, tier one has no cloak and since the fleet version is just a BoP costume it can cloak.
yes and no . if you go by DS9, Kor and kang had them albeit new tech at the time for the battle of keleb. or how ever its spelled. which took place during the short lived war that the organia peace treaty ended. and that was a year or two before the tech exchange with the romulans. but you are correct in ENT times they didn't have cloak yet.
Uhm......You guys do realize that we're talking about a current ship to be released in the 25-th century, right?
While it's aesthetics may be based upon the ENT era BoP, what possible reason in frozen Gre'thor would the Klingons have to not install a cloaking device on one of their BoPs at this time?
What possible reason is there for releasing an NX replica at this time? My suggestion is that the KDF decided to do the same thing. Besides, if one was to practice couting coup, if an NX could beat a KDF ship, how much honor and glory could a new KDf captain earn by doing the same to them?
I also recognize that for this ship, I exchanged one point of turn rating, the cloak, and a loss of +5 to weapons for an additional 1,000 hul hp. I suppose with what is being given up, it should be 12,000 hull.
I also think that this T1 ship's special console could be the same grappler console that comes with the NX replica.
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I wan't a cloaking device on this BoP, don't crush my dreams dammit! :cool: :P
Well if you really want to go with full replica, using this console wouldn't make sense, since this ship already had tractor beam technology installed in ENT.
"Critics who say that the optimistic utopia Star Trek depicted is now outmoded forget the cultural context that gave birth to it: Star Trek was not a manifestation of optimism when optimism was easy. Star Trek declared a hope for a future that nobody stuck in the present could believe in. For all our struggles today, we haven’t outgrown the need for stories like Star Trek. We need tales of optimism, of heroes, of courage and goodness now as much as we’ve ever needed them."
-Thomas Marrone
Don't we already have this just without the 22nd century skin?
B'Rotlh Bird-of-Prey T1
Hull: 10,000
Shields: 3,410
Shield Mod: 0.8
Weapons: 2 Fore, 1 Aft
Crew: 30
BOFFs: 3 Ens Univ, 1 Ens Sci
Consoles: 1 Tac, 1 Eng, 2 Sci
Turn Rate: 23
Impulse Modifier: 0.20
Inertia rating: 80
Bonus Power: +5 weapons power
Abilities: Battle Cloak
Enhanced Induction Coils console
During ENT they didn't have a cloak, but they didn't get it from the Romulans.
Also give us a D-5 dammit.
Norway and Yeager dammit... I still want my Typhoon and Jupiter though.
JJ Trek The Kelvin Timeline is just Trek and it's fully canon... get over it. But I still prefer TAR.
#TASforSTO
'...I can tell you that we're not in the military and that we intend no harm to the whales.' Kirk: The Voyage Home
'Starfleet is not a military organisation. Its purpose is exploration.' Picard: Peak Performance
'This is clearly a military operation. Is that what we are now? Because I thought we were explorers!' Scotty: Into Darkness
'...The Federation. Starfleet. We're not a military agency.' Scotty: Beyond
'I'm not a soldier anymore. I'm an engineer.' Miles O'Brien: Empok Nor
'...Starfleet could use you... It's a peacekeeping and humanitarian armada...' Admiral Pike: Star Trek
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Let's see:
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No, we don't.
I think he meant them being statwise very similar, just currently without the access to the 22-th century era look.
If that's what he meant by "22nd century skin" he communicated it very poorly.
For me "skin" means something that actually has a certain look.
That other thing is called "stats".;)
So there's no good reason I can see why another T1 BoP should have vastly different stats.
But if it ever comes it will probably share the nx01 and Connie's sad fate...
Not necessarily. It could share the T'Varo's fate, which is one hell of a T5 ship, if I may say so.
Not really. Each of the T1 ships have different stats. While it is no surprise that they are similar because it is near the start of the game, they are NOT the same.
My suggestion was to make a T1 ship that has the manuverability of the BOP, but didn't have the cloak. That would likely require a boost in hull points.
Appearently you and I don't think of the same things when the phrase "vastly different stats" is involved.:)
Its sad that other ST games, including the tabletop, all mention the Kvort as a bigger more cruiser oriented BoP yet STO still does not have it.
Ok, my Kvortian moment has passed.
R.I.P