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22nd Century BOP for T1

davidwforddavidwford Member Posts: 1,836 Arc User
edited June 2014 in Klingon Discussion
Yes, I am seriously asking for this. Whether the skin can be used on the T5 B'Rel refit or another BOP, I leave to another thread.

Here is my suggestion:

Hull: 11,000
Shields: 3,410
Shield Mod: 0.8
Weapons: 2 Fore, 1 Aft
Crew: 30
BOFFs: 2 Ens Tac, 1 Ens Eng, 1 Ens Sci
Consoles: 2 Tac, 1 Eng, 1 Sci
Turn: 22
Impulse Mod: 0.20
Inertia Rating: 70
Bonus Power: +10 Weapons
NO CLOAK
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  • misterde3misterde3 Member Posts: 4,195 Arc User
    edited June 2014
    Looking good.:cool:
  • shpoksshpoks Member Posts: 6,967 Arc User
    edited June 2014
    /signed.

    I always loved the ENT era BoP. Just one thing - this needs a cloak, must feel Klingon! ;)
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  • abaddon653abaddon653 Member Posts: 1,144 Arc User
    edited June 2014
    shpoks wrote: »
    /signed.

    I always loved the ENT era BoP. Just one thing - this needs a cloak, must feel Klingon! ;)

    Except at this point in history the Klingons did not yet have cloaking technology. They didn't get it until they had a temporary alliance with the Romulans.

    Now what they could do is make this a costume option for a fleet BoP. So there, tier one has no cloak and since the fleet version is just a BoP costume it can cloak.
  • icsairgunsicsairguns Member Posts: 1,504 Arc User
    edited June 2014
    abaddon653 wrote: »
    Except at this point in history the Klingons did not yet have cloaking technology. They didn't get it until they had a temporary alliance with the Romulans.

    Now what they could do is make this a costume option for a fleet BoP. So there, tier one has no cloak and since the fleet version is just a BoP costume it can cloak.

    yes and no . if you go by DS9, Kor and kang had them albeit new tech at the time for the battle of keleb. or how ever its spelled. which took place during the short lived war that the organia peace treaty ended. and that was a year or two before the tech exchange with the romulans. but you are correct in ENT times they didn't have cloak yet.
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  • shpoksshpoks Member Posts: 6,967 Arc User
    edited June 2014
    abaddon653 wrote: »
    Except at this point in history the Klingons did not yet have cloaking technology. They didn't get it until they had a temporary alliance with the Romulans.

    Now what they could do is make this a costume option for a fleet BoP. So there, tier one has no cloak and since the fleet version is just a BoP costume it can cloak.
    icsairguns wrote: »
    yes and no . if you go by DS9, Kor and kang had them albeit new tech at the time for the battle of keleb. or how ever its spelled. which took place during the short lived war that the organia peace treaty ended. and that was a year or two before the tech exchange with the romulans. but you are correct in ENT times they didn't have cloak yet.

    Uhm......You guys do realize that we're talking about a current ship to be released in the 25-th century, right? :confused:
    While it's aesthetics may be based upon the ENT era BoP, what possible reason in frozen Gre'thor would the Klingons have to not install a cloaking device on one of their BoPs at this time?
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  • davidwforddavidwford Member Posts: 1,836 Arc User
    edited June 2014
    shpoks wrote: »
    Uhm......You guys do realize that we're talking about a current ship to be released in the 25-th century, right? :confused:
    While it's aesthetics may be based upon the ENT era BoP, what possible reason in frozen Gre'thor would the Klingons have to not install a cloaking device on one of their BoPs at this time?

    What possible reason is there for releasing an NX replica at this time? My suggestion is that the KDF decided to do the same thing. Besides, if one was to practice couting coup, if an NX could beat a KDF ship, how much honor and glory could a new KDf captain earn by doing the same to them?

    I also recognize that for this ship, I exchanged one point of turn rating, the cloak, and a loss of +5 to weapons for an additional 1,000 hul hp. I suppose with what is being given up, it should be 12,000 hull.

    I also think that this T1 ship's special console could be the same grappler console that comes with the NX replica.
  • talonxvtalonxv Member Posts: 4,257 Arc User
    edited June 2014
    I'm all for it. DO EEEIIITTT!!!!
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  • shpoksshpoks Member Posts: 6,967 Arc User
    edited June 2014
    davidwford wrote: »
    What possible reason is there for releasing an NX replica at this time? My suggestion is that the KDF decided to do the same thing. Besides, if one was to practice couting coup, if an NX could beat a KDF ship, how much honor and glory could a new KDf captain earn by doing the same to them?

    I wan't a cloaking device on this BoP, don't crush my dreams dammit! :cool: :P
    davidwford wrote: »
    I also think that this T1 ship's special console could be the same grappler console that comes with the NX replica.

    Well if you really want to go with full replica, using this console wouldn't make sense, since this ship already had tractor beam technology installed in ENT.
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  • psycoticvulcanpsycoticvulcan Member Posts: 4,160 Arc User
    edited June 2014
    Yes, please! And a D5 battle cruiser would be awesome as well. :cool:
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  • kapla1755kapla1755 Member Posts: 1,249
    edited June 2014
    davidwford wrote: »
    Yes, I am seriously asking for this. Whether the skin can be used on the T5 B'Rel refit or another BOP, I leave to another thread.

    Here is my suggestion:

    Hull: 11,000
    Shields: 3,410
    Shield Mod: 0.8
    Weapons: 2 Fore, 1 Aft
    Crew: 30
    BOFFs: 2 Ens Tac, 1 Ens Eng, 1 Ens Sci
    Consoles: 2 Tac, 1 Eng, 1 Sci
    Turn: 22
    Impulse Mod: 0.20
    Inertia Rating: 70
    Bonus Power: +10 Weapons
    NO CLOAK



    Don't we already have this just without the 22nd century skin?

    B'Rotlh Bird-of-Prey T1
    Hull: 10,000
    Shields: 3,410
    Shield Mod: 0.8
    Weapons: 2 Fore, 1 Aft
    Crew: 30
    BOFFs: 3 Ens Univ, 1 Ens Sci
    Consoles: 1 Tac, 1 Eng, 2 Sci
    Turn Rate: 23
    Impulse Modifier: 0.20
    Inertia rating: 80
    Bonus Power: +5 weapons power
    Abilities: Battle Cloak
    Enhanced Induction Coils console
    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
  • artan42artan42 Member Posts: 10,450 Bug Hunter
    edited June 2014
    abaddon653 wrote: »
    Except at this point in history the Klingons did not yet have cloaking technology. They didn't get it until they had a temporary alliance with the Romulans.

    During ENT they didn't have a cloak, but they didn't get it from the Romulans.


    Also give us a D-5 dammit.
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  • shpoksshpoks Member Posts: 6,967 Arc User
    edited June 2014
    misterde3 wrote: »

    I think he meant them being statwise very similar, just currently without the access to the 22-th century era look.
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  • misterde3misterde3 Member Posts: 4,195 Arc User
    edited June 2014
    shpoks wrote: »
    I think he meant them being statwise very similar, just currently without the access to the 22-th century era look.

    If that's what he meant by "22nd century skin" he communicated it very poorly.
    For me "skin" means something that actually has a certain look.
    That other thing is called "stats".;)
  • misterde3misterde3 Member Posts: 4,195 Arc User
    edited June 2014
    Oh and I'd also like to add that when we look at the T1 ships on the Fed side, especially the escorts, those are pretty much identical statwise as well.
    So there's no good reason I can see why another T1 BoP should have vastly different stats.
  • revandarklighterrevandarklighter Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited June 2014
    The early bop is a far to awesome design to be wasted at t1...

    But if it ever comes it will probably share the nx01 and Connie's sad fate...
  • shpoksshpoks Member Posts: 6,967 Arc User
    edited June 2014
    The early bop is a far to awesome design to be wasted at t1...

    But if it ever comes it will probably share the nx01 and Connie's sad fate...

    Not necessarily. It could share the T'Varo's fate, which is one hell of a T5 ship, if I may say so.
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  • davidwforddavidwford Member Posts: 1,836 Arc User
    edited June 2014
    misterde3 wrote: »
    Oh and I'd also like to add that when we look at the T1 ships on the Fed side, especially the escorts, those are pretty much identical statwise as well.
    So there's no good reason I can see why another T1 BoP should have vastly different stats.

    Not really. Each of the T1 ships have different stats. While it is no surprise that they are similar because it is near the start of the game, they are NOT the same.

    My suggestion was to make a T1 ship that has the manuverability of the BOP, but didn't have the cloak. That would likely require a boost in hull points.
  • misterde3misterde3 Member Posts: 4,195 Arc User
    edited June 2014
    davidwford wrote: »
    Not really. Each of the T1 ships have different stats. While it is no surprise that they are similar because it is near the start of the game, they are NOT the same.

    My suggestion was to make a T1 ship that has the manuverability of the BOP, but didn't have the cloak. That would likely require a boost in hull points.

    Appearently you and I don't think of the same things when the phrase "vastly different stats" is involved.:)
  • bitemepwebitemepwe Member Posts: 6,760 Arc User
    edited June 2014
    We need a t3 and t5 Kvort.

    Its sad that other ST games, including the tabletop, all mention the Kvort as a bigger more cruiser oriented BoP yet STO still does not have it.


    Ok, my Kvortian moment has passed.
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