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op oberth console no kdf equal buff? hax

realminirealmini Member Posts: 243 Arc User
edited June 2014 in PvP Gameplay
the oberth console isgettign aridiculousbuff. the kdf equivalent gets nothing. why?

tryign to slip a fast one by old minmax HUH!
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  • snoge00fsnoge00f Member Posts: 1,812 Arc User
    edited June 2014
    Cryptic is just keeping in line with their treatment of KDF since launch.

    http://sto.gamepedia.com/UserWiki:Peregrine_Falcon
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  • dontdrunkimshootdontdrunkimshoot Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited June 2014
    they ether forgot it exists, or did the cost benefit analysis GM style of doing a copy paste job vs the number of people that bought the ship and concluded it was worth all the car accidents...

    i think a good point was in there somewhere.


    oh wait they gave this thing away last time, 'everyone' should have it, so it doesn't deserve parity with the fed version. what a convenient excuse, kdf neglect writes itself! and this isn't even the biggest problem with the brel refit, the bigger problem IMO, is that you STILL cant use the refit costume on the fleet brel! it is to laugh
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  • revandarklighterrevandarklighter Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited June 2014
    Where did you read about that buff?
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  • kalvorax#3775 kalvorax
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    edited June 2014
    *Enhanced Plasma Manifold (Oberth Console):
    **No longer shares a cooldown with Batteries.
    **Now effects Engine subsystems in the same manner as existing Aux/Shield bonuses.
    **Now grants immunity to Shields, Engines, and Aux offline for full duration.
    **Now grants +10 Maximum Shield, Engine, and Aux power for full duration.
    **Increased base power bonus from 33 to 50, and gains additional benefit from the Starship Batteries skill.
    **Base duration reduced from 20 seconds to 15 seconds, but now gains more benefit from the Starship Batteries skill.
  • revandarklighterrevandarklighter Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited June 2014
    cynder2012 wrote: »
    *Enhanced Plasma Manifold (Oberth Console):
    **No longer shares a cooldown with Batteries.
    **Now effects Engine subsystems in the same manner as existing Aux/Shield bonuses.
    **Now grants immunity to Shields, Engines, and Aux offline for full duration.
    **Now grants +10 Maximum Shield, Engine, and Aux power for full duration.
    **Increased base power bonus from 33 to 50, and gains additional benefit from the Starship Batteries skill.
    **Base duration reduced from 20 seconds to 15 seconds, but now gains more benefit from the Starship Batteries skill.

    Oh well that sounds like a quiet powerful buff. Still not going to use it^^
    But yes the induction coils need to get this too.
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  • rudiefix1rudiefix1 Member Posts: 420
    edited June 2014
    Im sooo happy. I could use some more power
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  • riccardo171riccardo171 Member Posts: 1,802 Arc User
    edited June 2014
    cuz feds > kdf

    You will still need to go broke with dual batteries mini :P
  • smokeybacon90smokeybacon90 Member Posts: 2,252 Arc User
    edited June 2014
    The Oberth Console is very rarely used in the shadow of the RMC, that may have influenced their decision to buff it separate from the EIC. Doesn't make it right though.
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  • blahhdreyblahhdrey Member Posts: 313 Arc User
    edited June 2014
    I know that Cryptic could give a flying fig about the KDF but to go ahead with this buff sans any apparent reciprocation, in the wake of the FPE revamp? It seems more like willful disdain than it does neglect.
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  • realminirealmini Member Posts: 243 Arc User
    edited June 2014
    altho if theyre gonna boost hy3 bio torp thatsnice too. lookhow much i alredy pull
    [Combat (Self)] Your Enhanced Bio-Molecular Photon Torpedo - High Yield III deals 145564 (148475) Kinetic Damage(Critical) to Maxima.

    dtill tho. buff my disruptor inductioncoil u dev jerks!
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  • suavekssuaveks Member Posts: 1,736 Arc User
    edited June 2014
    KDF equivalent needs a similar buff. Thing is, not only Cryptic doesn't care about KDF stuff, but also they've already given the ship away for free at one point. Oberth on the other hand may be the least popular C-Store ship in the game, while such buff may encourage at least some people to get it for the console alone.

    Not only that, but T1 T'Varo also has a more useful console, which is also part of a set. This leaves only KDF with an inferior starting ship console.

    I'll pretend I'm in any way surprised...
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  • shpoksshpoks Member Posts: 6,967 Arc User
    edited June 2014
    Boneheaded moves like this one are the reason Cryptic will go down in history as the most incompetent game developer ever. I'm just sorry for the few good and talented guys that work there, the ignorant ones making the decisions make them all look bad.

    I hope they'll re-evaluate this and bring parity to the EIC, but I'm not holding my breath. I mean, it would be for the KDF after all. :rolleyes:
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  • jellico1jellico1 Member Posts: 2,719
    edited June 2014
    I still want 3 wooden masts with Sails to put on my Fed ships so when klingons ( Flank ) them it at least seems real...........................
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  • rmy1081rmy1081 Member Posts: 2,840 Arc User
    edited June 2014
    realmini wrote: »
    the oberth console isgettign aridiculousbuff. the kdf equivalent gets nothing. why?

    tryign to slip a fast one by old minmax HUH!
    shenanigans.

    They're probably trying to get it to work with the new sensor targeting assault. Really, a full alpha with immunity to weapons offline will be awesome :)
  • snoge00fsnoge00f Member Posts: 1,812 Arc User
    edited June 2014
    starwrathforever wrote: »
    OK evuls...let's make a deal!
    You'll get also a buff for your uni console...and we Feds will get the flanking buff also for our FPE! And we don't need the decloaking buff, we can do without it, you will always have this advantage...we're generous because we're the good guys, you know...
    This is an equal treatment, don't you agree?:P

    But you already got the nice Nadeon bomb of doom! The FPE doesn't need flanking too. ;)
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  • virusdancervirusdancer Member Posts: 18,687 Arc User
    edited June 2014
    snoge00f wrote: »
    But you already got the nice Nadeon bomb of doom! The FPE doesn't need flanking too. ;)

    You know...the B'rel is one of what, two ships at T5 that do not come with something (the other is the Atrox). Can't say it's the EBC, cause that's on the Fleet version as well - the same goes for the T'varo - it's REBC is both on the Retro and Fleet Retro - the Retro comes with a console.

    The B'rel could do with a Disruptor version of the Nadeon Saturation...

    ...just saying. You know, since Sal brought it up and all. ;)
  • bitemepwebitemepwe Member Posts: 6,760 Arc User
    edited June 2014
    cynder2012 wrote: »
    *Enhanced Plasma Manifold (Oberth Console):
    **No longer shares a cooldown with Batteries.
    **Now effects Engine subsystems in the same manner as existing Aux/Shield bonuses.
    **Now grants immunity to Shields, Engines, and Aux offline for full duration.
    **Now grants +10 Maximum Shield, Engine, and Aux power for full duration.
    **Increased base power bonus from 33 to 50, and gains additional benefit from the Starship Batteries skill.
    **Base duration reduced from 20 seconds to 15 seconds, but now gains more benefit from the Starship Batteries skill.

    Expect more fed complaints that Phasers are useless against feds in PvP.
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  • jaegernljaegernl Member Posts: 506 Arc User
    edited June 2014
    Heh, apart from a Vesta pack, this is actually the only console or C-Store ship I have on the fed side. What a nice surprise.

    But yeah, I call BS. Although the +10 on max cap on the KDF variant would be troublesome, as it gives it's bonus to Weapon Power, but I'll take the +10 on Aux, Shield and Engines with an offline immunity all day.
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  • jaegernljaegernl Member Posts: 506 Arc User
    edited June 2014
    Warp cores have been the only thing allowing + Max cap, amirite?

    How would this stack with one of those cores? Are we going to see 140 aux boats? Even if it's only for the duration.
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  • jaegernljaegernl Member Posts: 506 Arc User
    edited June 2014
    Also, aux offline immunity and Hirogen console? How would these two work together? I'll take that sexy +10% damage without decloaking, hmmhmm.

    Edit: You know, Jaeger, you could've justed edited your posts, but nooooo, you had to be a tool.
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  • tehbubbalootehbubbaloo Member Posts: 2,003 Arc User
    edited June 2014
    i am shocked!
    i cant believe the kdf were left out in the cold.
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  • virusdancervirusdancer Member Posts: 18,687 Arc User
    edited June 2014
    jaegernl wrote: »
    Warp cores have been the only thing allowing + Max cap, amirite?

    How would this stack with one of those cores? Are we going to see 140 aux boats? Even if it's only for the duration.

    Obelisk takes the Aux Cap to 135. EPM to 145? Pop QSM. Unleash some Sci fun for a short period?
  • fraghul2000fraghul2000 Member Posts: 1,590 Arc User
    edited June 2014
    the oberth console isgettign aridiculousbuff. the kdf equivalent gets nothing. why?

    My guess would be: everyone got their free B'Rotlh BoPs during the giveaway last december, so there isn't any need or rush for the Devs to improve it, as it won't create revenue anymore...
  • jaegernljaegernl Member Posts: 506 Arc User
    edited June 2014
    virusdancer wrote: »
    Obelisk takes the Aux Cap to 135. EPM to 145? Pop QSM. Unleash some Sci fun for a short period?

    145 aux Proton Barrage or Ion Beam? Nukara Mines scale with Aux power too, but that would be rather hard to make workable :P
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  • tehbubbalootehbubbaloo Member Posts: 2,003 Arc User
    edited June 2014
    fraghul2000 wrote: »
    My guess would be: everyone got their free B'Rotlh BoPs during the giveaway last december, so there isn't any need or rush for the Devs to improve it, as it won't create revenue anymore...

    it might if the console was worth slotting.
    you think nobody would ever buy the vandal anymore if it had been given away one day a year ago?
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  • oakland4lifeoakland4life Member Posts: 545 Arc User
    edited June 2014
    Don't worry... it's just Capt Gecko buffing the Fed consoles he needs for his Fed toons to fight against NPC enemy ships he cannot defeat... even with a team.

    Don't expect any buff's or any new KDF ships to come out on the C-store soon...
  • virusdancervirusdancer Member Posts: 18,687 Arc User
    edited June 2014
    bitemepwe wrote: »
    Expect more fed complaints that Phasers are useless against feds in PvP.

    You know...that could be it, you know...in a twisted sort of way, you know - that could have been why they did it.
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