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  • virusdancervirusdancer Member Posts: 18,687 Arc User
    edited June 2014
    tfomega wrote: »
    never cared about dilithium.. only cared about pvp.. they touch ker'rat and I am done

    Well, when they did that - they also "fixed" the ability to change zones, no? Course, there simply wasn't anywhere near as many people in Ker'rat after they changed the Dil thing.

    Then there's also the change to the spawns with them trying to spread them out more. Where they also "fixed" the ability to glitch sides.

    They did the thing where they buffed the Borg - folks complained - they nerfed the Borg as well.

    How about changes they haven't done that some folks would like? Like if Cryptic were to get rid of the warp-reset so that it was like N'Vak, eh? That could be nifty, no?
  • the4monkeysthe4monkeys Member Posts: 172 Arc User
    edited June 2014
    muhadeeb wrote: »
    now Lets See Here. 6/2/14 At 4pmest On Steam There Are 2000 Players Playing Sto Thru Steam. Lets Be Generous And Say 8000 More Are Playing The Game World Wide[very Generous].if Each Player Spends 20 Bucks Pre Week, Which Not Even Half Really Do We Come To The Realization That This Game Is Not Even Meeting Payroll Anymore The String Of Bad Decisions That Have Gone On For Years Is Killing This Game No Hiding It People Have Either Left Already Or Are Leaving. You The Devs Have Destroyed Pvp.but Yet You Still Send Your Plants In Here To Tell Every One Things Are Rosey. They Are Not. Or To Have Them Attack The People Asking Why. Or Have A Moderators Remove The Post For A Bad Word Or For Whatever Reason. I Have Never Posted Really Till Season 9 But Now I Am Because Our Beloved Game Is Dying Before Our Eyes All Over Stupid Decisions. And Its All On The Dev Teams And Here Is A Few Reasons Why. As Devs Because You Made The Forums You Have A Responsibility To Be Active In These Forums To Take The Good With The Bad The Second Of Which You Do Not.as Long As Things Are Good You Guys Will Answer Every Stupid Meaningless Question Anyone Has. Let 1 Person Ask Anything That Has Substance No Response. Your Pod Casts We Have To Submit Questions For You To Pick Which 1s You Answer. Again Why Do You Pick The Questions Are You Afraid To Have A Real Open Discussion With Your Players, Obviously Not. And This Has Been Going On Since Day 1 And You Know It .people For Years Told Me This Was The Case But I Didn't Believe It Till I Started Reading The Forums Since Season 9 And Its Horribly True. What You Have Done Is Alienate Your Player Base And Make Them A Liability In Our Game Of Which I Now Am One Of Those Liabilitys. In Any Business Its The Veterans Or People With Tenure Who Make The Money In Our Case Its The Vets Who Spend The Money. And Please Don't Even Attempt To Tell Me F2pers Spend More That Vets, Not A Chance. The Vets That Were Here Were The Teachers For The Game Now We Don't Have Many Anymore. What A Shame The Rep System Oyu Made Us Eat Was A Lie From The Beginning You Knew It Was Flawed And Would Not Work But Yet You Put It In Anyway And Are Now Trying To Fix It At The Expence Of The Paying Vets. Go Look At The Pvp Qs Devs Same 20-25 Players Playing Every Day. Think About That Guys 20 Players Pvping In A World Wide Game How Do You Justify This. When I Started Pvping About A Year After Launch I Could Pvp For A Week And Not See The Same Guy Twice Or See The Same Premade But Once A Night Far Cry Now Huh. Pvp And Pvp Fleets Are A Thing Of The Past. No One To Even Hate Anymore Here Except You The Devs Who Have Destroyed The Game.in Any Other Business In The World All Of You Would Have Already Been Fired And New Blood Brought In To Fix Your Years Of Bad Decisions And Player Loss. Now The Community Does Not Believe A Single Word You Guys Say.the Lies, Misinformation And No Information Has Killed You Reputation With This Community Forever. Since Season 9 Went Live Your Silence Speaks Volumes
    On What You Think Of Us And Your Players. Ask Smirk Or Hawk Or Anyofem What Color The New Tailor Colors Are Youll Get A 3 Page Response About Every Detail Of A New Uniform Ask Them What They Are Doing To Reel In The Power Creep And You Get This Response [crickets]. Start Petitions Or What Ever It Takes But This Band Of Devs Need To Be Fired Asap And People Brought In To Save This Game It May Already Be To Late To Turn It Around . And Don't Think The Guys Who Have Made Thousands Of Posts Always In Agreement With Every Thing You Say Carries Any Weight At All They Don't Every One Here Knows Who And What They Are. The Game Is Dying And And Will Soon Be Gone If Nothing Is Done Please Someone Wityh A Brain And Some Power Fix This Mess Before Our Game Is Gone



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  • tfomegatfomega Member Posts: 812 Arc User
    edited June 2014
    muhadeeb wrote: »
    now lets see here. 6/2/14 at 4pmest on steam there are 2000 players playing sto thru steam. lets be generous and say 8000 more are playing the game world wide[very generous].if each player spends 20 bucks pre week, which not even half really do we come to the realization that this game is not even meeting payroll anymore the string of bad decisions that have gone on for years is killing this game no hiding it people have either left already or are leaving. you the devs have destroyed pvp.but yet you still send your plants in here to tell every one things are rosey. they are not. or to have them attack the people asking why. or have a moderators remove the post for a bad word or for whatever reason. i have never posted really till season 9 but now I am because our beloved game is dying before our eyes all over stupid decisions. and its all on the dev teams and here is a few reasons why. as devs because you made the forums you have a responsibility to be active in these forums to take the good with the bad the second of which you do not.as long as things are good you guys will answer every stupid meaningless question anyone has. let 1 person ask anything that has substance no response. your pod casts we have to submit questions for you to pick which 1s you answer. again why do you pick the questions are you afraid to have a real open discussion with your players, obviously not. and this has been going on since day 1 and you know it .people for years told me this was the case but I didn't believe it till I started reading the forums since season 9 and its horribly true. what you have done is alienate your player base and make them a liability in our game of which I now am one of those liabilitys. in any business its the veterans or people with tenure who make the money in our case its the vets who spend the money. and please don't even attempt to tell me f2pers spend more that vets, not a chance. the vets that were here were the teachers for the game now we don't have many anymore. what a shame the rep system oyu made us eat was a lie from the beginning you knew it was flawed and would not work but yet you put it in anyway and are now trying to fix it at the expence of the paying vets. go look at the pvp qs devs same 20-25 players playing every day. think about that guys 20 players pvping in a world wide game how do you justify this. when I started pvping about a year after launch I could pvp for a week and not see the same guy twice or see the same premade but once a night far cry now huh. pvp and pvp fleets are a thing of the past. no one to even hate anymore here except you the devs who have destroyed the game.in any other business in the world all of you would have already been fired and new blood brought in to fix your years of bad decisions and player loss. now the community does not believe a single word you guys say.the lies, misinformation and no information has killed you reputation with this community forever. since season 9 went live your silence speaks volumes
    on what you think of us and your players. ask smirk or hawk or anyofem what color the new tailor colors are youll get a 3 page response about every detail of a new uniform ask them what they are doing to reel in the power creep and you get this response [crickets]. start petitions or what ever it takes but this band of devs need to be fired asap and people brought in to save this game it may already be to late to turn it around . and don't think the guys who have made thousands of posts always in agreement with every thing you say carries any weight at all they don't every one here knows who and what they are. the game is dying and and will soon be gone if nothing is done please someone wityh a brain and some power fix this mess before our game is gone

    right on!!!!!!!

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  • tfomegatfomega Member Posts: 812 Arc User
    edited June 2014
    Well, when they did that - they also "fixed" the ability to change zones, no? Course, there simply wasn't anywhere near as many people in Ker'rat after they changed the Dil thing.

    Then there's also the change to the spawns with them trying to spread them out more. Where they also "fixed" the ability to glitch sides.

    They did the thing where they buffed the Borg - folks complained - they nerfed the Borg as well.

    How about changes they haven't done that some folks would like? Like if Cryptic were to get rid of the warp-reset so that it was like N'Vak, eh? That could be nifty, no?

    none of that stuff I really cared about.. would like it back the way it was, but fundamentally did not change the core of ker'rat.. the only open pvp zone there is. They get rid of that, and I have no reason to remain.... especially with 20 hour pvp queues....

    simple as that, jack cryptic can't see the forest for the trees

    I AM NOT A FAN OF PWE!!!!
    MEMBER SINCE JANUARY 2010
  • zeuxidemus001zeuxidemus001 Member Posts: 3,357 Arc User
    edited June 2014
    Seems like this patch was mostly designed around destroying any loopholes sci's and to some degree KDF were having in this new season lol.

    Good thing this new rep has just entertained me long enough to get a few mains to tier 5 then I'm done till expansion 2 lol.
  • kargandarrkargandarr Member Posts: 56 Arc User
    edited June 2014
    I am currently unemployed and have no way of buying zen. The only way that I get dilithium fast enough to get the zen that I need, currently 10,000, is to farm in pvp arenas. If there is no way to get the dilithium that i need to buy zen fast enough then there will be no use for me to play this game. So if the 20 hour cooldown goes in effect on holodeck then there will be no use for me to play and many others feel the same way about this matter. I was talking to a player the other night and was told that if this happens that they will go back to fallout and play it. I, most likely will play Knight Online again.
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  • wazzagiowwazzagiow Member Posts: 769 Arc User
    edited June 2014
    Only HALF FM's...WHAT?!!

    This is just wrong. The items in the Fleet Stores are already through the roof. Just one weapon costs 25k fm's.

    Just let us have the same ratio as we do now. What possible reasoning is behind giving us only half?

    I know I thought that was absurd when I read it.
  • realminirealmini Member Posts: 243 Arc User
    edited June 2014
    yeah, That Popped Into My Head - But I Forgot About It Getting Down To The Stuff Hilbert Brought Up.

    With The Epm Getting That Kind Of Boost, Will The Eic Get Something Like It As Well?

    Yeah For Real. Kdf Will Be Treated Fairly Or U Will Get Battleth In Eye Dev!
  • virusdancervirusdancer Member Posts: 18,687 Arc User
    edited June 2014
    realmini wrote: »
    Yeah For Real. Kdf Will Be Treated Fairly Or U Will Get Battleth In Eye Dev!

    Yeah, that did get lost in there again...meh.

    The EPM currently provides:
    +33 Aux Power for 20s
    +33 Shield Power for 20s
    Repairs disabled Aux
    Repairs disabled Shields
    Triggers CD on batteries.
    Enhanced Plasma Manifold (Oberth Console):
    ---No longer shares a cooldown with Batteries.
    ---Now effects Engine subsystems in the same manner as existing Aux/Shield bonuses.
    ---Now grants immunity to Shields, Engines, and Aux offline for full duration.
    ---Now grants +10 Maximum Shield, Engine, and Aux power for full duration.
    ---Increased base power bonus from 33 to 50, and gains additional benefit from the Starship Batteries skill.
    ---Base duration reduced from 20 seconds to 15 seconds, but now gains more benefit from the Starship Batteries skill.

    Well, there's also the EIC (Enhanced Induction Coils that comes with the B'Rotlh Bird-of-Prey at T1 (like the Oberth for the Feds - it's a 500 ZEN boat)).

    The EIC currently provides:
    +33 Engine Power for 20s
    +33 Weapon Power for 20s
    Repairs disabled Engines
    Repairs disabled Weapons
    Triggers CD for batteries.

    But there was no mention in the notes about the EIC getting any of the EPM changes. Hitting up Tribble to look at the EIC...same ol' same ol' EIC as on Holodeck...none of the Tribble love the EPM got. /facepalm
  • blessedladyboyblessedladyboy Member Posts: 349 Arc User
    edited June 2014
    The oberth console buff is insane...I will buy immediately for my Feds.

    However can you explain why enhanced induction coils hasn't had the same treatment?
  • tyne123tyne123 Member Posts: 36 Arc User
    edited June 2014
    tpalelena wrote: »
    This is why PVP dil rewards needed a nerf. 96k dilithium from 5 hours of play? Lolwut?

    Even the Voth battlezone would give around 20k dil at max from that. And that's the BEST pve dil farm.

    You claim for 5 hours 20k dilithium would be the best. Untrue as was my claim of 5 hours for 96k.

    5 hours dyson would give 48k maybe 56k. at 1 hour per character. an extra 8k if you rushed you could maybe push for more. It truly take 8 hours to cap I start at 10am my time and finish at 6pm my time. Where dyson would be 64k minimum, to a maximum of 80k in the same time so I truely am only faster by two character's. Yes PvP is rewarding and it needs to stay rewarding.

    You say it need's to be nerfed, well I agree but not at the exspense as they are suggesting.

    Recap on suggestions.

    Force exploit to where shields and armour, by giving a base static buff to both!

    Just like STF's no killing, no rewards.

    As one person suggested quest cooldown but not one hour. I'd Say 30 minute cooldown. (But honestly a cooldown of any kind would hinder pvp incentive)

    One thing they could also implement in the future, if they wish to add a cooldown is pvp reward in shape of items. maybe a pvp currency and special gear for pvp. They only need to look at other MMO's
  • riccardo171riccardo171 Member Posts: 1,802 Arc User
    edited June 2014
    To me TS2 does just fine with bio molecular photon :confused:. It does as much as I used to do with gravimetric.
  • tyne123tyne123 Member Posts: 36 Arc User
    edited June 2014
    The oberth console buff is insane...I will buy immediately for my Feds.

    However can you explain why enhanced induction coils hasn't had the same treatment?

    Yes an interesting question the KDF Version does not get a buff. Yet the Fed version does?
  • riccardo171riccardo171 Member Posts: 1,802 Arc User
    edited June 2014
    tyne123 wrote: »
    Yes an interesting question the KDF Version does not get a buff. Yet the Fed version does?

    Maybe it has something to do with the fact that it has been given for free with KDF missions update with Worf's VO?
  • suavekssuaveks Member Posts: 1,736 Arc User
    edited June 2014
    Maybe it has something to do with the fact that it has been given for free with KDF missions update with Worf's VO?
    More like with the fact that Cryptic simply doesn't care about KDF. ;)
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  • jivedutchjivedutch Member Posts: 357 Arc User
    edited June 2014
    We will be bringing down the Tribble server for maintenance to apply a new update: ST.40.20140525a.2

    Content:
    • All repeatable PVP missions for Fed and Klg (arena and scenario) are now set to a 20 hour cooldown.

    Looking at this list http://sto.gamepedia.com/Dilithium#PvP_and_global_PvE
    Which are the missions that are being turned into dailies now (20h cooldown) That were not so already ?

    The change reigns in some of the dili farming options, that being said .. one would expect anybody who's able to withstand the onslaught of pvp-spikes, to be able to handle an invisible-torp-of-doom once in a while as well , heck .. i know ppl who can tank out Donatra's thalaron at 4km .....

    Aside from this ... the game should have lower dilithium requirements as is for holdings... and more ways to get it .. (yes .. i like that the devs are now modifying the story missions to reward dili at replay as well) ....

    The high dili/zen ratio currently is mostly done by people who are playing the exchange market ... and the high ratio at which players are apparently in need of Zen which enables supply & demand manipulation.
  • rollthorrollthor Member Posts: 9 Arc User
    edited June 2014
    C'Mon Dev's!

    you can't be serious, right? you create this thread in the 1st place you even make it possible for the playerbase to voice their questions/concerns and THEN you don't even care to take just a few seconds to answer the simple questions the people might have?

    Could you please explain what sense does it make if you don't reply?

    there are numerous questions you haven't even thought of answering so far. you say you have community managers? is it so hard to make em reply to some of the questions people might have?

    as for me i am very interested if you could explain what you mean by a 20 hr cooldown for pvp? i am totally not sure if i understand it correctly!

    are you goin to take away the only reward that makes pvp viable atm? do you want to say that you force me and others to play your so highly praised PVE content to get my dilithium?
    Honestly: can u say how often have you yorselves played your own content until you realized that it got boring? You seem not to understand that a lot of players find it boring to play the same PVE content over and over and that they prefer the dynamics of playing against another living beeing (so called humans).
    PVP is already in a bad shape and now you take away what was probably the last thing that made it attractive. have i mentioned that any PVE content you have created in the past grants more dilithium than any availabe PVP content there is? you don’t believe me?

    well look at some of the players running an ISE in under 5 minutes? got more toons? rinse and repeat. every run you will get almost 1k in dilithium. compare to pvp? not even gonna talk about the dyson ruunners. just one out of many possible examples. well see u have two opposing teams that fight against each other, of which all competing players will need at least 3! runs to get a mere 1440 dilithium in let’s say quadruple the time if not more. an average pvp match (space) will take around 15 minutes as some people have already stated. now that by 3 and you have 1440 dilithium. can you see my point? no?

    well you punish every player that still likes PVP (i wonder why), while every other player who plays your all so shiny PVE content gets rewarded with masses of dilithium, that is basically copypaste of what you ever created. granted you created new maps enemies graphics and stuff. i’ll give you that. but you will NEVER EVER beat the dynamics of HUMANS AGAINST HUMANS.

    If you are really going to take dilithium away from pvp, mind if i ask you what are you going to replace it with? will i have to solo mine your precious dilithium mines to get my dilithium?

    i have an Idea! why not create an absolutely unbeatable single player experience in where we can get our dilithium without having to play with others. now that would be a change!

    Someone once said on a very well know STO podcast that cryptic has more than once proven that you have problems in creating multiplayer games. by killing off pvp (without even taking a few minutes to explain what why and how) you will once more have proven that those people are right in what they said.

    IMHO it looks as if you are failing to create viable PVP action and by destroying it you will destroy all evidence that PVP in this game has ever existed.

    and the last time i tried to enter capture and hold daily i waited until i was kicked 3 times from the queue due to your server telling me no one was playing at all. is this an active PVP community?

    the PVP daily don’t work because they don’t happen at all. because no one plays them! and now you are going to take the rewards away for what was left,...

    thank you for taking the choice away from us, thank you for forcing us to play the content you want us to play, thank you for not beheading us while we are allowed to live in your virtual realm,

    thank you!
  • tvenus67tvenus67 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited June 2014
    [*]Occasionally, bridge officer and captain powers are removed from the power tray when transitioning to another map.

    I may cry when this is fixed, it happens every time I transfer maps. :(
    As well as taking random pieces of equipment and removing them from my ship and all consumables being removed from my captain & ship.
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  • wast33wast33 Member Posts: 1,855 Arc User
    edited June 2014
    rollthor wrote: »

    thank you for taking the choice away from us, thank you for forcing us to play the content you want us to play, thank you for not beheading us while we are allowed to live in your virtual realm,

    thank you!

    there it is! the content U (cryptic) want us to play! i heard that term quite some times by now and can tell one thing:
    i don't want U to choose for me what content to play! I want U to provide a versity of content from which I can choose what I want to play and which provide same opportunities for toon-progression! pvp in this case.... and by pvp i mean: PVP ONLY! thx.

    it could be so easy already, look my sig :P... (and still with that solution i would make waaaaay less dil than in any pve in the same time :mad:)
  • tfomegatfomega Member Posts: 812 Arc User
    edited June 2014
    Just pushing me out the door a little more with the pvp changes

    I AM NOT A FAN OF PWE!!!!
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  • simeion1simeion1 Member Posts: 898 Arc User
    edited June 2014
    Cryptic nerfing STO one player at a time.

    Just curious if they know if there is no player base, there is no paycheck?
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  • maelwy5maelwy5 Member Posts: 593 Arc User
    edited June 2014
    Yay, Balance!! :)
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  • wazzagiowwazzagiow Member Posts: 769 Arc User
    edited June 2014
    We will be bringing down the Tribble server for maintenance to apply a new update: ST.40.20140525a.2

    [
    Systems:
    [/LIST]
    [*]Shield Absorptive Frequency Generator:
    • The effects of the Shield Absorptive Frequency Generator console will no longer become active until the user has at least one shield facing below 90% maximum capacity.
    • Updated all descriptions and tooltips to reflect these changes.

    another nerf? or has it actually been tested properly this time? is the console still worthwhile or has it become worthless? anyone managed to get some good testing on it? I've not had a chance and it seems that less than week for tribble testing before hitting holodeck seems a bit rushed.
  • tk79tk79 Member Posts: 1,020 Arc User
    edited June 2014
    tk79 wrote: »
    Covert is giving 1,000% Exploit Damage... is this correct?
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    [EDIT] Lucky giving 1,000% shtuff too...
    http://xibreula.com/tk79/lucky_1000_percent_chance_exploit.png

    I tested this further and it seems to be just a typo or a missing decimal point. Still, freaked the hell out of me when I saw it.

    The tooltip says 1,000% but the bonus applied is 10%.
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  • darkjeffdarkjeff Member Posts: 2,590 Arc User
    edited June 2014
    muhadeeb wrote: »
    now lets see here. 6/2/14 at 4pmest on steam there are 2000 players playing sto thru steam. lets be generous and say 8000 more are playing the game world wide[very generous].if each player spends 20 bucks pre week, which not even half really do we come to the realization that this game is not even meeting payroll anymore

    4PM on the east coast, 1 PM on the west coast, on a Monday.

    Oh gosh, surely having only 2000-8000 unemployed students playing STO is a sign the game won't be making money. :eek:
  • snipey47asnipey47a Member Posts: 485 Media Corps
    edited June 2014
    tyne123 wrote: »
    I do not think you realise a lot of your income comes from this type of farming. You will be hindering your income if you go ahead with this particular update.

    One. people who can't buy zen due to finances or country! won't be buying Zen to Dilithium as often as they are now.

    I'm not sure you realise how much this boost's your own revenues as it is. It encourage's people to buy zen to exchange for Dilithium. Do this change and it'll cut off a lot of dilithium income, stumping the purchases on Zen. which will effect how much people will buy zen to get Dilithium.

    And it won't encourage people to buy zen. If this is your hope.


    Help me here. I am struggling to understand how this affects Cryptics income. They are closing a way of using freely farmed Dilithium to obtained what would be by definition free zen from the free dilithium. So with all this free free free going on, what income of Cryptics will be affected by this change?
  • mattachinemattachine Member Posts: 510 Arc User
    edited June 2014
    snipey47a wrote: »
    Help me here. I am struggling to understand how this affects Cryptics income. They are closing a way of using freely farmed Dilithium to obtained what would be by definition free zen from the free dilithium. So with all this free free free going on, what income of Cryptics will be affected by this change?

    Allow me to help you understand how they have made money from Dilithium.

    People spend Dollars (insert what ever currency in the real world you're using) to BUY Zen.

    People then put the Zen up for sale on the Dilithium Exchange.

    That way people have been able to buy Dilithium for Dollars, which equals profit for Cryptic.


    Is that a clearer picture for you? :cool:
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