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zarathos1978
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Hi all.
I'm away from STO since last year or so. No toon (deleted all), no gear in the bank (deleted all) etc. Consider me as totally fresh, first game install etc.
I want to PVP. I get it that low-level PVP (my favourite) is probably non-existent so endgame, here I come. Now, how hard it is to get up to the specs with all the changes? When I left getting a newb to compete in endgame PVP required a lot, lot, lot some more lots of PVE grind to get gear, BOFFs and such. How it looks now?
Is it possible to jump in in free ship with gear gained in the PVE story and be competitive at least at basic level? If not - how long will it take and what should I grind to get to such level? I know my skills are rusty etc. but I'm willing to relearn by dying a lot. It's just the PVE grind that's stopping me from reinstalling STO.
Assume I will do Ker'rat and solo/duo queues, not the 5v5 etc. I'm lone wolf, always was so I' not changing it. And I think I would prefer to play either tac-escort (perhaps sci-escort) or eng-cruiser.
I'm away from STO since last year or so. No toon (deleted all), no gear in the bank (deleted all) etc. Consider me as totally fresh, first game install etc.
I want to PVP. I get it that low-level PVP (my favourite) is probably non-existent so endgame, here I come. Now, how hard it is to get up to the specs with all the changes? When I left getting a newb to compete in endgame PVP required a lot, lot, lot some more lots of PVE grind to get gear, BOFFs and such. How it looks now?
Is it possible to jump in in free ship with gear gained in the PVE story and be competitive at least at basic level? If not - how long will it take and what should I grind to get to such level? I know my skills are rusty etc. but I'm willing to relearn by dying a lot. It's just the PVE grind that's stopping me from reinstalling STO.
Assume I will do Ker'rat and solo/duo queues, not the 5v5 etc. I'm lone wolf, always was so I' not changing it. And I think I would prefer to play either tac-escort (perhaps sci-escort) or eng-cruiser.
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Should help. Yes it is possible. I recommend getting t2 in all reps though. It only takes 5 days(I think)
You need some fleet gear, mostly consoles, not hard with a moderate amount of grinding.
You need a lockbox ship or a fleet ship. This is the most expensive thing and/or the most difficult to grind for in-game.
You dont actually need top of the line weapons, if you get the rest of it.
You can get Assimilated Deflector at Omega T2 and Engines at T3.
So ~2 weeks of some time after job to advance in ranks through PvE with low level PvP dead. Then month+ PvE just for the Omega reputation... plus lots of time time for EC to buy doffs and stuff? With no way of earning them in PvP (at least in meaningful quantities) from what I read on the forums?
Or try my luck with the stuff I get from missions and some 10 mil Ec grinded in PvE for basic-basic gear just to have a start?
Q, I just I hate STO PvE!
We'll see, I think I give it a try with tac-escort (fastest levelling) and basic free stuff from missions without rep. I know I'll die a lot (99% of the time), but there will be a lot of fun if I kick someone better equipped then I am
If I cannot get some fun this way I'll pass and wait another year for some other improvements in PvP. I do not have patience to play this hideous, boring, repetitive thing that goes for PvE in this game.
Thank you for your answers.
Long-term they should compress equipment so that there is less of a gap. They cant seem to figure out how to make this business model work, or they arent interested in trying it.
Short-term alternative would be a basic "combat simulator" queue that only has pre-selected gear, that you can use until you have some gear that you want to try in the deep end of the pool.
Well, actually, with regard to the various Reps - you CAN do them all at once, and if you do two 'houries' plus the Dailies; you'll be T5 in all Reps in about 35 days (and getting T5 in a Rep will net you enough Dill(which you'll need to refine at 8K per day); and the Appropriate Marks to get one piece of 'Prime' rep gear 'out of the gate' as it were.
But yes, if you want to get into top tier PvP (gear wise) it's about 6 weeks of grind once you hit Level 50.
PWE ARC Drone says: "Your STO forum community as you have known it is ended...Display names are irrelevant...Any further sense of community is irrelevant...Resistance is futile...You will be assimilated..."
Raise all reps to tier two at least, omega tier 3 for set 2. Get an Assimilated Module and KCB.
Start buying high end hear such as elite shields and fleet consoles, namely spire tac and enhanced engineering ones.
Get blue rarity x3 EPTX CD doffs (damage control) and x2 BFI doffs (shield distribution), as general purpose layout for any ship running two EPTX powers.
Done? Great, start saving for a Fleet Ship and you should be ok. Really you want to upgrade the ship model later, first you need the equipment to load on it.
Kindly shut up and return to the fog that generated you please. We don't need fail comments like yours.
Derrick - Fed Eng
my comments are exactly whats needed. the truth. sorry you don't like it .
the problem is...its not the truth only a opinion.learn the difference it will make you a better troll in the long run until then you are dismissed
I was getting kills in Ker'rat with a tactical Romulan in the stock Ha'feh. If you don't have a cloak, you'll have to focus a lot more on defense, which is expensive.
You won't be the best out there and you'll die a lot. But I think it has never been easier to get into PvP than it is now.
Oh, and if you're a Fed in Ker'rat, just stay with the fed ball, you'll do fine.
RCK
The more toons you have the easier it is to gear one up. No one said all your toons had to have max spiffy value right away.
Its at least nice to have one of each class... and perhaps a few opposite faction.
When a new rep comes out pick the toon that is going to use that gear... and then you can use your alts to farm Dilhitum for you so you can boom boom have everything as soon as you unlock things. Nice to log through 4 or 5 toons anytime you need 30-50k in D.
I thought the same way until i rolled a new kdf tac, the rep sponsorship makes it much easier, and i used my relatively rich fed to buy doffs and other goodies for my new toon when it hit 50. it's faster than you think.
Derrick - Fed Eng
still too much work and too expensive for what you get.
After you grind your life out and waste your time learning how to play the game (you dont need to do that if you spam your spacebar ) you get in a match against faw ships or some dude who spams AoE drain which has no counters so you lose and wonder where was your mistake.Theres not even a single reason to try pvp in sto.
It's an ever evolving game - new content an what not...
If you don't want to put the time in, you'll simply never be as good as you would be, if you did.
For new players to the game it will take a long time to get to a decent level, longer still to become great at it.
It will require you to PvE lots & lots for gear,EC & Dilithium.
This process is made easier by joining a fleet and making friends along with way.
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In short, only you can decide if you think the 'journey' to becoming a great PvPer in STO is worth while.
For me personally, its very much is...
D,
[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
Please keep the QQ to a minimum.
>>>PUNISH THE FEDs<<<
>>>Positive Feedback from a PvE HERO<<<
You need a faw ship to pvp.You dont need any friends for that ,you only have to faw spam npcs to get your rep and stuffs then faw in arena.
If you are in a good fleet it will take about
4 weeks to make a PvP-ready Char (imho).
For a "real" PvP-Char multiply that 4 weeks
with 2 to 8
and/or spending real money.
1. Grind all reps to T2
(space rep-traits!)
2. buy a good ship
(ask decent PvP'ers what ship you need and ask
several ppl, do not listen to one "Professional")
3. get the gear you need
(mk XI purple equip is pretty cheap on the exchange
and again ask for advice!)
Buckle up and set phasers to frag!
Greetz Siegfried
PS: You do not need to faw....
What he said...:D
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Please keep the QQ to a minimum.
>>>PUNISH THE FEDs<<<
>>>Positive Feedback from a PvE HERO<<<
yes you can also spam tyken rifts ,ewp and tif so the rest of your team who faws to get maximum skill.
grinding your life away=beng a normal pve'er. the difference between a pvp'er and pve'er is that there's a good reason to have done that grind in the first place, being the most competitive possible in pvp. for a pve'er, your reward for grinding is shaving seconds off how long it takes to kill npcs, wile you continue to grind for no good reason/play the game normally. theres not a single good reason to just pve and grind if your not doing it for PVP.
anyone who thinks that you just have to be good at hiting space bar to pvp, are the same ones that have the hubris to think that its just so imbalanced that its unplayable, not that im not any good at it, don't know what im doing, and wont do anything to improve myself because writing it off is easier.
a FAW ship is what im least scared of faceing. they might have the highest DPS, but it takes so long for them to kill you with it that you have to be asleep not to be countering it with evasion, resists and heals. its the only type of damage that engages with you a battle of attrition, and in a game were there is such out of control healing thats the worst tactic to try to use.
You want to roll a Reman Sci...KDF-aligned. You want to VM and SNB Zero...it's fun! :P
edit: With TDF, it would be better to go Fed-aligned...but then you couldn't VM and SNB Zero.
you can macro spacebar on your keyboard to do it for you.I guess that is for you "good".:rolleyes:
this is for me, good, as far as keybinds go http://sto-forum.perfectworld.com/showpost.php?p=8289771&postcount=601
loading up a bunch of TRIBBLE on space bar=bad, having a variaty of binds to cover your TRIBBLE offensively and defensibly=good, and will go a long way toward making pvp less 'imbalanced', for you.